3 Griz Arrested

[Spanky]

He doesn't want a trial. Straight to the gallows it is!!

 

[SACCAT66]

So did the house look like this

Or like this

Or like this

 

[Raider]

They got their asses kicked in a monsoon in Portland, and their bright idea of senior leaders is to get back to Missoula, go out on Halloween until 2:30am, walk into a construction project on private property, and yet some of you clowns still defend them.

Best comment in the last 17 pages.

 

[SACCAT66]

YES!!!! 17 pages

 

[UMGriz75]

As would be expected from anything you post, you cherry picked a small part of the post to make some point and that does make you disturbingly creepy.

Tell me how an Attractive Nuisance case would apply here, or continue to add literally nothing other than personal shots at posters.

I pulled the moronic parts of that post, and wanted clarification about them.

Other than the stupendous irony of you attacking anyone who discusses "facts" as you foam and froth about this "case" it is obvious that there is nothing you need to hear from anyone about anything. You are not just unhinged about it for some reason, you likely lost all your hinges some time ago.

 

[PlayerRep]

Sounds more like the Mayors house deal

that was already brought up by PR, but rejected since those players had their schollys yanked and suspended from playing for 1 year

But you can continue down that line of thought if you want :thumb:

tough to agree with a Cat fan...but you are correct, similar level of offense and MSU handled it firmly. Hope UM does the same or Griz football will get even more crap .....

Based on what we know now, it was not a similar level of offense. In the MSU incident, the players went into an occupied house (i.e. not being renovated or constructed), were fleeing from the police, ran through part of the house (where they were people), and then continued to flee from the cops. If more bad facts come out on the UM incident, then it could get to the level of the Cat incident or get worse than the Cat incident. However, if it were as innocent as this (and I'm not saying it was), then I would feel that the incident wasn't a horrible one. This meaning: they were walking home from a Halloween party, it was cold and raining, they called a friend to get them, they saw the large opening steps from the sidewalk, thought the house was under construction and not occupied, and decided to go up the ladder/scaffolding, and then waited for their friend to arrive. Again, not saying those were the facts. I think it's important to know more about why they went into the structure.

 

[MTOutsider]

Please enlighten us. Homeowner was quoted saying " I hope that they aren't guilty of much more than being extraordinarily stupid."

Same can be said for the guy with a dui that killed someone or the guy playing with the gun that shoots someone. Granted there are various levels of Stupid. If they were just trespassing, so be it charge them with such and move on. If that is the case the bigger question is what will Stitt do. Does he have the balls to make an example and say enough is enough or will he tuck them in his wife's purse and say play on, business as usual in Griz town.

 

[PlayerRep]

. The window isn't that far off of the sidewalk, you could practically jump into the window opening which really is quite large. There is rough scaffolding there. The structure was, in fact, open to the elements and any stray coyotes, deer, dogs, cats, birds, wombats and college students.

Had anyone been injured, this would have been an "attractive nuisance" case. Although major construction is obviously underway, there are no signs posted

I'm not sure which of these is the most disturbingly creepy thing here.

That this guy apparently has already staked out the house, that he's passive-aggressively blaming the home owners, or that he's comparing UM student-athletes to wildlife in terms of judgement.

:shock:

What disturbs me is that you, and people like you, come onto the Griz board in situations like this, and start telling lies and distorting things. Nothing creepy about looking at a house, from the street, whose address (200 block) has been in the newspaper and police information. Driving by or looking at a house is not "staking it out". Stating that the room above the garage is open and close to the sidewalk, is not blaming the owners for anything; it is a fact. Saying animals could walk into a structure being built is not comparing players to animals. It shows how open structure is, or some of it is. You are the weird creepy guy here, in my view. By the way, from the Kaimin statements, I like this owner. Seems like a nice and reasonable guy.

 

[billingsgriz]

Gotta go with 75 and grizindabox on this one.

Unless there is more new information, misdemeanor trespass.

Not to say that is wasn't extraordinarily stupid, given Beau Donaldson, JJ's trial and acquittal, Jon Krackhead's book, Markus Kaarma's ambush of German exchange student Darren Diede, who deserved to be prosecuted for misdemeanor trespass, not executed, Gamboa and Kose's arrests at the beginning of the season, etc.

I have a feeling that KVA, Schmaing, and Counts will state they didn't know the property was occupied--they thought it was an unoccupied construction site. Still, KVA and Schmaing are seniors, are supposed to be leaders and set a good example. (The fact that it was Halloween probably also played a role in their "investigation." Who can resist a spooky construction site that has watched any of the Halloween movies when they are with 2 of their teammates and a young female companion ?)

So, if misdemeanor trespass, what does Coach Stitt do? To me, a one-game suspension would seem a foregone conclusion, with the possibility also of 2 games or the rest of the season.

Barring any new information, I would go with a one-game suspension, a public apology to the family, a private apology to their teammates and coaching staff, and some serious community-service time, plus daily runs up to the M and back and enough additional squats and motherf@ckers, an old affectionate Marine Corps' term for squat thrusts, and mountain climbers to dig the foundation for the new UM Washington Champion's Center.

As Sergeant Stryker (John Wayne) tells his Marines in "The Sands of Iwo Jima," Life is tough, especially if you're stupid !!!"

 

[grizindabox]

Please enlighten us. Homeowner was quoted saying " I hope that they aren't guilty of much more than being extraordinarily stupid."

Same can be said for the guy with a dui that killed someone or the guy playing with the gun that shoots someone. Granted there are various levels of Stupid. If they were just trespassing, so be it charge them with such and move on. If that is the case the bigger question is what will Stitt do. Does he have the balls to make an example and say enough is enough or will he tuck them in his wife's purse and say play on, business as usual in Griz town.

Are those the only options?

 

[UMGriz75]

Again, not saying those were the facts. I think it's important to know more about why they went into the structure.

And that's my point. Knowing more about the circumstances, it's not "plausible" that they had criminal intent. Maybe they did, but it's not like I would expect anyone to leave valuables around an empty room with a giant window opening open to the outside and the open air. Knowing that eliminates the idea that they may have forced a door or a window open because that would, indeed, suggest a different level of intent. Knowing that there was likely no way they knew there was a family in the actual house also offers the perspective that they did not do this to scare the crap out of a family.

So, they had entered an area open to the outside with no likely intent except to explore or get out of the rain. If true, that does not rise to the level of a felony, burglary, but is trespass, a misdemeanor. Like all "laws" circumstances are everything, and this one just does not ring true for "criminal intent" and the homeowner himself appears willing to acknowledge that could be the case.

 

[grizcountry420]

This meaning: they were walking home from a Halloween party, it was cold and raining, they called a friend to get them, they saw the large opening steps from the sidewalk, thought the house was under construction and not occupied, and decided to go up the ladder/scaffolding, and then waited for their friend to arrive. Again, not saying those were the facts. I think it's important to know more about why they went into the structure.

 

[PlayerRep]

. The window isn't that far off of the sidewalk, you could practically jump into the window opening which really is quite large. There is rough scaffolding there. The structure was, in fact, open to the elements and any stray coyotes, deer, dogs, cats, birds, wombats and college students.

Had anyone been injured, this would have been an "attractive nuisance" case. Although major construction is obviously underway, there are no signs posted

I'm not sure which of these is the most disturbingly creepy thing here.

That this guy apparently has already staked out the house, that he's passive-aggressively blaming the home owners, or that he's comparing UM student-athletes to wildlife in terms of judgement.

:shock:

Aside from you and your creepiness, I live in the neighborhood. I am not "blaming" the owners, I am describing how it appears from the street -- you know, facts and stuff like that.

You posted that if someone was injured, it would be an "attractive nuisance" case for not securing the property. Those cases are typically for children who get injured, not grown men invading a structure at 2:30 am, although I'm quite sure some Griz fan attorney wouldn't mine trying to sue those evil homeowners for their unsecured/unmarked project.

Fans like you are why the program is such a Stitt show right now. I'm guessing that you've even considered contacting the city about this unmarked eyesore that 5 adults simply could not resist exploring.

When does the coddling stop?

There are lots of cases involving people other than children. Just more lies and distortions coming out of you. Want to bet on whether the prosecutors file felony charges against the 5? I have no information other than what's in this thread and the links. Even you know that a felony appears unlikely at this point. Liars like you are one of the bad things about the internet.

 

[Raider]

This meaning: they were walking home from a Halloween party, it was cold and raining, they called a friend to get them, they saw the large opening steps from the sidewalk, thought the house was under construction and not occupied, and decided to go up the ladder/scaffolding, and then waited for their friend to arrive. Again, not saying those were the facts. I think it's important to know more about why they went into the structure.

See, it's all about the weather!

I tell these fuckers every time, and nobody listens! No rain, no felony.

Maybe you dudes will pay attention from now on!

 

[bigkid]

I'm going to step out and say IF this turns out to be a misdemeanor trespass(as I think it will) then a one game suspension along with some "extra" work and apologies to the team and the homeowner. There is no reason for anything other than that.

 

[PlayerRep]

Again, not saying those were the facts. I think it's important to know more about why they went into the structure.

And that's my point. Knowing more about the circumstances, it's not "plausible" that they had criminal intent. Maybe they did, but it's not like I would expect anyone to leave valuables around an empty room with a giant window opening open to the outside and the open air. Knowing that eliminates the idea that they may have forced a door or a window open because that would, indeed, suggest a different level of intent. Knowing that there was likely no way they knew there was a family in the actual house also offers the perspective that they did not do this to scare the crap out of a family.

So, they had entered an area open to the outside with no likely intent except to explore or get out of the rain. If true, that does not rise to the level of a felony, burglary, but is trespass, a misdemeanor. Like all "laws" circumstances are everything, and this one just does not ring true for "criminal intent" and the homeowner himself appears willing to acknowledge that could be the case.

This is what I think too, based on what we know at this point.

 

[grizindabox]

This meaning: they were walking home from a Halloween party, it was cold and raining, they called a friend to get them, they saw the large opening steps from the sidewalk, thought the house was under construction and not occupied, and decided to go up the ladder/scaffolding, and then waited for their friend to arrive. Again, not saying those were the facts. I think it's important to know more about why they went into the structure.

See, it's all about the weather!

I tell these f***[*] every time, and nobody listens! No rain, no felony.

Maybe you dudes will pay attention from now on!

Good thing it wasn't graupel then....

 

[PlayerRep]

So did the house look like this

Or like this

Or like this

It looks like most like 3, but with the house part in the background more and also under construction and without siding, and with the garage complete (at least on the outside) and with the room of above the garage completed enough to have a room on it and a big open window area. The Missoula bar association and realtors association had a tour today.

 

[grizindabox]

So did the house look like this

Or like this

Or like this

It looks like most like 3, but with the house part in the background more and also under construction and without siding, and with the garage complete (at least on the outside) and with the room of above the garage completed enough to have a room on it and a big open window area. The Missoula bar association and realtors association had a tour today.

LOL...too funny

 

[EverettGriz]

Maybe the University needs to do mandatory training on entering unsecured construction sites?

:lol: