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2nd scrimmage recap

Redonkuless1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I didn't see the first scrim.. but you guys all remember Brody McKnight as a freshman, right? There's a reason he got the nickname "Mayday." I don't really remember anyone saying much about him as a soph, and mostly nothing as a Jr or Sr. Why should we bag on a freshman kicker? I mean, really..

Did you really just compare Lider to McKnight? :lol: OMG! Mcknight made his PAT's, IIRC he made a few clutch kicks. If you don't see the problem, you should be on the staff. Lider wishes he could be a pimple on McKnights A$$!

You have reading comprehension problems. I'm done with you. You obviously have a hard-on for Lider.. did he punch your kid out in high school or something?
 
The wind was a major factor, but TM's first interception for the pick 6 was passed directly to Addison Owen. Hopefully this was just an anomaly today with TM. JJ looked very sharp at times, but absolutely no passing across the middle and like 1 pass to TEs as they were mainly blocking---->the defense obviously knows this well and are jumping those passes to the sideline. I know it is spring and no time to worry blah, blah, blah. However it was usually two runs and JJ scramble for his life on third down because it is 3rd and more than 5 years (defense is pinning their ears back). JJ is right back on track and will be just fine this fall. For the naysayers, every snap was taken under center. From today, it seemed like a straight at you offensive scheme. The big Oline will wear down people, but I hope and only assume that the play-calling will be a lot more imaginative. T. Van, Brett K., Curtis White, and Brock Coyle did not play today being dinged up a little bit. As of right now, this offense does not suit JJ that well, but I hope they are just working more on fundamentals.
 
brootgrizr said:
I was there today, the snaps sucked. That was today. In the big picture, didn't Shaw kick FGs in HS?

Wahlberg and I debated how far Shaw could boot the football today.. we came up with a 77 yard FG might be doable. Huge leg for a P, I'd be curious to see what he can do as a K.
 
MrTitleist said:
Redonkuless1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I didn't see the first scrim.. but you guys all remember Brody McKnight as a freshman, right? There's a reason he got the nickname "Mayday." I don't really remember anyone saying much about him as a soph, and mostly nothing as a Jr or Sr. Why should we bag on a freshman kicker? I mean, really..

Did you really just compare Lider to McKnight? :lol: OMG! Mcknight made his PAT's, IIRC he made a few clutch kicks. If you don't see the problem, you should be on the staff. Lider wishes he could be a pimple on McKnights A$$!

You have reading comprehension problems. I'm done with you. You obviously have a hard-on for Lider.. did he punch your kid out in high school or something?

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I'm pointing out a problem area I see. I agreed with you to take today out of it. The kid still has not done enough for the coaching staff not to challenge him(bring in some local competition). Since we are passing out starting Jobs anyone want to play DB? You don't think they could have got the kid from Butte to walk on? I don't think I'm the one not comprehending the problem with PAT or FG's, I hope you prove me wrong. I mean what they had that other kid in Spokane valley that kicked a 70Yrd FG to win a game, did mick call him? Dennehy kicked a 47yrd FG to beat Bozeman in the state title game with no time left, did we call him? And has Lider done something to me to dislike him? No, but his play SUCKS! I leave it to you to sling anymore mud on the matter but that won't fix the kicking problem.
 
Redonkuless1 said:
MrTitleist said:
Redonkuless1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I didn't see the first scrim.. but you guys all remember Brody McKnight as a freshman, right? There's a reason he got the nickname "Mayday." I don't really remember anyone saying much about him as a soph, and mostly nothing as a Jr or Sr. Why should we bag on a freshman kicker? I mean, really..

Did you really just compare Lider to McKnight? :lol: OMG! Mcknight made his PAT's, IIRC he made a few clutch kicks. If you don't see the problem, you should be on the staff. Lider wishes he could be a pimple on McKnights A$$!

You have reading comprehension problems. I'm done with you. You obviously have a hard-on for Lider.. did he punch your kid out in high school or something?

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I'm pointing out a problem area I see. I agreed with you to take today out of it. The kid still has not done enough for the coaching staff not to challenge him(bring in some local competition). Since we are passing out starting Jobs anyone want to play DB? You don't think they could have got the kid from Butte to walk on? I don't think I'm the one not comprehending the problem with PAT or FG's, I hope you prove me wrong. I mean what they had that other kid in Spokane valley that kicked a 70Yrd FG to win a game, did mick call him? Dennehy kicked a 47yrd FG to beat Bozeman in the state title game with no time left, did we call him? And has Lider done something to me to dislike him? No, but his play SUCKS! I leave it to you to sling anymore mud on the matter but that won't fix the kicking problem.

Rehkow from CV was never going to consider Montana, and I know for a fact that the Griz made contact.
 
Redonkuless1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I didn't see the first scrim.. but you guys all remember Brody McKnight as a freshman, right? There's a reason he got the nickname "Mayday." I don't really remember anyone saying much about him as a soph, and mostly nothing as a Jr or Sr. Why should we bag on a freshman kicker? I mean, really..

Did you really just compare Lider to McKnight? :lol: OMG! Mcknight made his PAT's, IIRC he made a few clutch kicks. If you don't see the problem, you should be on the staff. Lider wishes he could be a pimple on McKnights A$$!

Actually McKnight missed PATs his freshman year too. Remember we had Ferriter out there kicking PATs at one point because of it? Since some people seem to have the memory of a brain damaged goldfish around here, let's check the kicker comparisons again to see how our other freshman kickers did:

Snyder
Fr - 16-25 (64%), 7-7 from 20-29, 5-8 from 30-39, 3-8 from 40-49, 1-2 from 50+ (LG 52)

Carpenter
Fr - 18-29 (62.1%), 4-7 from 20-29, 7-10 from 30-39, 7-10 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (LG 49)

McKnight
Fr - 9-16 (56.2%), 3-5 from 20-29, 4-8 from 30-39, 2-3 from 40-49, (LG 46)

Lider
Fr - 15-21 (71.4%), 1-1 from under 19, 7-8 from 20-29, 2-6 from 30-39, 5-6 from 40-49 (LG 46)

In fact if you do a quick search on eGriz you'll find people ranting and bitching about McKnight his freshman year, how it was the end of the world, worst kicker ever, we need a new kicker, etc... And you'll see people point out that even the great Dan Carpenter struggled his freshman year.

FFS people we have this discussion every damn time we have a freshman kicker. And every damn time by the end of their Junior year we are raving about how great they are and forget about their freshman and sophomore years...

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Potomac Griz said:
Redonkuless1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I didn't see the first scrim.. but you guys all remember Brody McKnight as a freshman, right? There's a reason he got the nickname "Mayday." I don't really remember anyone saying much about him as a soph, and mostly nothing as a Jr or Sr. Why should we bag on a freshman kicker? I mean, really..

Did you really just compare Lider to McKnight? :lol: OMG! Mcknight made his PAT's, IIRC he made a few clutch kicks. If you don't see the problem, you should be on the staff. Lider wishes he could be a pimple on McKnights A$$!

Actually McKnight missed PATs his freshman year too. Remember we had Ferriter out there kicking PATs at one point because of it? Since some people seem to have the memory of a brain damaged goldfish around here, let's check the kicker comparisons again to see how our other freshman kickers did:

Snyder
Fr - 16-25 (64%), 7-7 from 20-29, 5-8 from 30-39, 3-8 from 40-49, 1-2 from 50+ (LG 52)

Carpenter
Fr - 18-29 (62.1%), 4-7 from 20-29, 7-10 from 30-39, 7-10 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (LG 49)

McKnight
Fr - 9-16 (56.2%), 3-5 from 20-29, 4-8 from 30-39, 2-3 from 40-49, (LG 46)

Lider
Fr - 15-21 (71.4%), 1-1 from under 19, 7-8 from 20-29, 2-6 from 30-39, 5-6 from 40-49 (LG 46)

In fact if you do a quick search on eGriz you'll find people ranting and bitching about McKnight his freshman year, how it was the end of the world, worst kicker ever, we need a new kicker, etc... And you'll see people point out that even the great Dan Carpenter struggled his freshman year.

FFS people we have this discussion every damn time we have a freshman kicker. And every damn time by the end of their Junior year we are raving about how great they are and forget about their freshman and sophomore years...

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Using your stats he was 2-6 from 30-39(the area of the field where most FG's are kicked from) that alone should have him riding the pine.
 
It looked to me that we were playing in an adverse weather situation that we hadn't played in yet. Winds were gusting up to 35 to 40 mph at times. We can't really blame the weather, but you can say that the weather played havoc on the passing game. Defense came up big a couple of times, give them that. It was a nasty day. The guy sitting next to me said I've been to warmer games in the winter at Wash-Griz.
 
Potomac Griz said:
Redonkuless1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I didn't see the first scrim.. but you guys all remember Brody McKnight as a freshman, right? There's a reason he got the nickname "Mayday." I don't really remember anyone saying much about him as a soph, and mostly nothing as a Jr or Sr. Why should we bag on a freshman kicker? I mean, really..

Did you really just compare Lider to McKnight? :lol: OMG! Mcknight made his PAT's, IIRC he made a few clutch kicks. If you don't see the problem, you should be on the staff. Lider wishes he could be a pimple on McKnights A$$!

Actually McKnight missed PATs his freshman year too. Remember we had Ferriter out there kicking PATs at one point because of it? Since some people seem to have the memory of a brain damaged goldfish around here, let's check the kicker comparisons again to see how our other freshman kickers did:

Snyder
Fr - 16-25 (64%), 7-7 from 20-29, 5-8 from 30-39, 3-8 from 40-49, 1-2 from 50+ (LG 52)

Carpenter
Fr - 18-29 (62.1%), 4-7 from 20-29, 7-10 from 30-39, 7-10 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (LG 49)

McKnight
Fr - 9-16 (56.2%), 3-5 from 20-29, 4-8 from 30-39, 2-3 from 40-49, (LG 46)

Lider
Fr - 15-21 (71.4%), 1-1 from under 19, 7-8 from 20-29, 2-6 from 30-39, 5-6 from 40-49 (LG 46)

In fact if you do a quick search on eGriz you'll find people ranting and bitching about McKnight his freshman year, how it was the end of the world, worst kicker ever, we need a new kicker, etc... And you'll see people point out that even the great Dan Carpenter struggled his freshman year.

FFS people we have this discussion every damn time we have a freshman kicker. And every damn time by the end of their Junior year we are raving about how great they are and forget about their freshman and sophomore years...

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O.K. potomac..you've talked me off the ledge, but at least Brody had a big f.....g ego! I like that in a playa... Brody would go down and throw a shoulder into a returner. This guy looks like a recluse. :werd:
 
Redonkuless1 said:
Potomac Griz said:
Redonkuless1 said:
MrTitleist said:
I didn't see the first scrim.. but you guys all remember Brody McKnight as a freshman, right? There's a reason he got the nickname "Mayday." I don't really remember anyone saying much about him as a soph, and mostly nothing as a Jr or Sr. Why should we bag on a freshman kicker? I mean, really..

Did you really just compare Lider to McKnight? :lol: OMG! Mcknight made his PAT's, IIRC he made a few clutch kicks. If you don't see the problem, you should be on the staff. Lider wishes he could be a pimple on McKnights A$$!

Actually McKnight missed PATs his freshman year too. Remember we had Ferriter out there kicking PATs at one point because of it? Since some people seem to have the memory of a brain damaged goldfish around here, let's check the kicker comparisons again to see how our other freshman kickers did:

Snyder
Fr - 16-25 (64%), 7-7 from 20-29, 5-8 from 30-39, 3-8 from 40-49, 1-2 from 50+ (LG 52)

Carpenter
Fr - 18-29 (62.1%), 4-7 from 20-29, 7-10 from 30-39, 7-10 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (LG 49)

McKnight
Fr - 9-16 (56.2%), 3-5 from 20-29, 4-8 from 30-39, 2-3 from 40-49, (LG 46)

Lider
Fr - 15-21 (71.4%), 1-1 from under 19, 7-8 from 20-29, 2-6 from 30-39, 5-6 from 40-49 (LG 46)

In fact if you do a quick search on eGriz you'll find people ranting and bitching about McKnight his freshman year, how it was the end of the world, worst kicker ever, we need a new kicker, etc... And you'll see people point out that even the great Dan Carpenter struggled his freshman year.

FFS people we have this discussion every damn time we have a freshman kicker. And every damn time by the end of their Junior year we are raving about how great they are and forget about their freshman and sophomore years...

220px-Goldfish3.jpg

Using your stats he was 2-6 from 30-39(the area of the field where most FG's are kicked from) that alone should have him riding the pine.

If you were around during the McKnight era, and even somewhat so for Carpenter, everyone said the same things about him after his freshman year. Titleist is spot on. I believe Lider will be fine once the season starts. His leg is much stronger than McKnights was at this time.
 
Ursus1 said:
Awesome....1TD with 2 OC's!!! Really working like a charm!
Haven't you heard? You are not allowed to question MD.:rule: He is only running this offense because he doesn't want the "enemy" to see the "real" offense we will be running this fall. What a football genius he is! We are lucky to have him. :roll:
 
grizfan95 said:
Redonkuless1 said:
Potomac Griz said:
Redonkuless1 said:
Did you really just compare Lider to McKnight? :lol: OMG! Mcknight made his PAT's, IIRC he made a few clutch kicks. If you don't see the problem, you should be on the staff. Lider wishes he could be a pimple on McKnights A$$!

Actually McKnight missed PATs his freshman year too. Remember we had Ferriter out there kicking PATs at one point because of it? Since some people seem to have the memory of a brain damaged goldfish around here, let's check the kicker comparisons again to see how our other freshman kickers did:

Snyder
Fr - 16-25 (64%), 7-7 from 20-29, 5-8 from 30-39, 3-8 from 40-49, 1-2 from 50+ (LG 52)

Carpenter
Fr - 18-29 (62.1%), 4-7 from 20-29, 7-10 from 30-39, 7-10 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (LG 49)

McKnight
Fr - 9-16 (56.2%), 3-5 from 20-29, 4-8 from 30-39, 2-3 from 40-49, (LG 46)

Lider
Fr - 15-21 (71.4%), 1-1 from under 19, 7-8 from 20-29, 2-6 from 30-39, 5-6 from 40-49 (LG 46)

In fact if you do a quick search on eGriz you'll find people ranting and bitching about McKnight his freshman year, how it was the end of the world, worst kicker ever, we need a new kicker, etc... And you'll see people point out that even the great Dan Carpenter struggled his freshman year.

FFS people we have this discussion every damn time we have a freshman kicker. And every damn time by the end of their Junior year we are raving about how great they are and forget about their freshman and sophomore years...

220px-Goldfish3.jpg

Using your stats he was 2-6 from 30-39(the area of the field where most FG's are kicked from) that alone should have him riding the pine.

If you were around during the McKnight era, and even somewhat so for Carpenter, everyone said the same things about him after his freshman year. Titleist is spot on. I believe Lider will be fine once the season starts. His leg is much stronger than McKnights was at this time.

Been around from before Andy Larson, I know good kickers. I hope this kid gets better, but I wouldn't put money on it. But again, why not bring in someone to challenge this kid. You don't even have to spend anything I'm sure there were lots of kids from Montana that would have loved a chance to compete against him for the job.
 
Redonkuless1 said:
Remember the Griz Dynasty started with a Great Kicker(and QB), Does it end with a choke artist?


All right, already. We get it Mrs. Dennehey. The Griz should have recruited your son. :roll:
 
Red~after that scrimmage, you should be much more worried about the vertical passing game than the kicking game. :twocents:
 
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