2017 Vim's Montana High School Football Recruiting List

[Atlanta Griz1]

Another thing about Stitt that is puzzling regarding recruiting is that he does not seem to have strong high school contacts in Colorado. You would think that after spending so many years coaching there, he could sign 3-4 great players from there. Have there been any signed so far?

 

[brewskis]

Another thing about Stitt that is puzzling regarding recruiting is that he does not seem to have strong high school contacts in Colorado. You would that after spending so many years coaching there, he could sign 3-4 great players from there. Have there been any signed so far?

None.


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[George Ferguson]

I'll say this, just for ATL's benefit. The Griz did indeed get owned on Montana's big three upcoming seniors. K ATL, satisfied?

I too have heard the same things about UM's approach to in-state kids vs MSU's since Choate was hired. But, let's not forget, Choate brought on two guys with extremely strong ties to Montana High School football in BJ and Brian. I know Vim, I know Matt Miller and Gerald Alexander are heavily involved too. I get that. But, I think it's very naive to discredit what BJ in particular is doing for in-state recruiting. He is one of the most well-liked and well-respected football coaches in Montana at any level. The high school coaches love hm, the kids love him, hell I love him. And it was genius for Choate to put him where he is on that staff, and it's paying big dividends, and to discredit that factor is just wrong. BJ and Brian Armstrong will continue to make a huge difference in Montana recruiting for years to come if they're there.

Now, for Griz fans who will rebut by saying "We have strong in-state guys too" in Selle and Ferriter and now Schann. It's not the same thing, at least not yet. Yes, those guys were Griz football heros, and great MHSA players in their day. But they don't have the kind of relationships with the high schools in Montana that BJ and Brian have built up in their time in the Frontier Conference. Give them 5-10 years if they do it right, and that will change. But, they have not been driving across the state, from Wibaux to Libby to Billings to Havre like BJ and Brian have done for the last decade. It's just not the same. MSU has a big in-state recruiting advantage right now. It's just the way it is.

 

[doc3kgt]

One of Tadan Gilman's interview quotes with Skyline Sports:

“As much as the Griz has had success in the past, the ‘Cats, how much different they approach the player, when I went to individual camps, I went to both of them and when I was down in Bozeman, every single coach was jumping around and hyped up,” Gilman said. “The Griz, as much experience as they have, I didn’t feel that same connection and energetic feel that I felt with the Bobcats.”

http://skylinesportsmt.com/gilman-relieved-by-choosing-montana-state-before-senior-season/

 

[doc3kgt]

The bobs can spunk all over themselves about these verbals, but the only reason they have verbaled to the bobs is because the Griz have not offered yet! Most of these kids will play their senior season and get other offers and end up somewhere else. If a kid is offered the same amount and chooses msu over the Griz he is either interested in a engineering degree or an Ag degree. With all the facilities and winning record favoring the Griz it only makes sense that if a kid has verbaled to the cats he hasn't been offered by the Griz yet. They are just getting excited over these early verbals because they can't talk about their preseason #1 accolades this year! Mike Drop!!!!

You're getting f'ing owned in recruiting. Mic drop.

Please explain looks pretty even between the two collie boy

See hav's post above. Dipshit.

 

[Paytonlives]

Careful fellas keep it clean.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

I'll say this, just for ATL's benefit. The Griz did indeed get owned on Montana's big three upcoming seniors. K ATL, satisfied?

I too have heard the same things about UM's approach to in-state kids vs MSU's since Choate was hired. But, let's not forget, Choate brought on two guys with extremely strong ties to Montana High School football in BJ and Brian. I know Vim, I know Matt Miller and Gerald Alexander are heavily involved too. I get that. But, I think it's very naive to discredit what BJ in particular is doing for in-state recruiting. He is one of the most well-liked and well-respected football coaches in Montana at any level. The high school coaches love hm, the kids love him, hell I love him. And it was genius for Choate to put him where he is on that staff, and it's paying big dividends, and to discredit that factor is just wrong. BJ and Brian Armstrong will continue to make a huge difference in Montana recruiting for years to come if they're there.

Now, for Griz fans who will rebut by saying "We have strong in-state guys too" in Selle and Ferriter and now Schann. It's not the same thing, at least not yet. Yes, those guys were Griz football heros, and great MHSA players in their day. But they don't have the kind of relationships with the high schools in Montana that BJ and Brian have built up in their time in the Frontier Conference. Give them 5-10 years if they do it right, and that will change. But, they have not been driving across the state, from Wibaux to Libby to Billings to Havre like BJ and Brian have done for the last decade. It's just not the same. MSU has a big in-state recruiting advantage right now. It's just the way it is.

So now, the dumbass know-nothing that I am was correct all along? Or, is it just the new Bobcat staff that is owning us in-state? Do you see why I am not a Stitt supporter? There are way too many concerns with this guy to laud the accolades that most of you grant him. As I have said before, we will know the answer in December whether he can be the coach to lead us back to where most of us want to be.

 

[casewinter13]

Another thing about Stitt that is puzzling regarding recruiting is that he does not seem to have strong high school contacts in Colorado. You would think that after spending so many years coaching there, he could sign 3-4 great players from there. Have there been any signed so far?

Yes...a 3 star o lineman

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[Atlanta Griz1]

Another thing about Stitt that is puzzling regarding recruiting is that he does not seem to have strong high school contacts in Colorado. You would think that after spending so many years coaching there, he could sign 3-4 great players from there. Have there been any signed so far?

Yes...a 3 star o lineman

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Good, at least one from there.

 

[George Ferguson]

I'll say this, just for ATL's benefit. The Griz did indeed get owned on Montana's big three upcoming seniors. K ATL, satisfied?

I too have heard the same things about UM's approach to in-state kids vs MSU's since Choate was hired. But, let's not forget, Choate brought on two guys with extremely strong ties to Montana High School football in BJ and Brian. I know Vim, I know Matt Miller and Gerald Alexander are heavily involved too. I get that. But, I think it's very naive to discredit what BJ in particular is doing for in-state recruiting. He is one of the most well-liked and well-respected football coaches in Montana at any level. The high school coaches love hm, the kids love him, hell I love him. And it was genius for Choate to put him where he is on that staff, and it's paying big dividends, and to discredit that factor is just wrong. BJ and Brian Armstrong will continue to make a huge difference in Montana recruiting for years to come if they're there.

Now, for Griz fans who will rebut by saying "We have strong in-state guys too" in Selle and Ferriter and now Schann. It's not the same thing, at least not yet. Yes, those guys were Griz football heros, and great MHSA players in their day. But they don't have the kind of relationships with the high schools in Montana that BJ and Brian have built up in their time in the Frontier Conference. Give them 5-10 years if they do it right, and that will change. But, they have not been driving across the state, from Wibaux to Libby to Billings to Havre like BJ and Brian have done for the last decade. It's just not the same. MSU has a big in-state recruiting advantage right now. It's just the way it is.

So now, the dumbass know-nothing that I am was correct all along? Or, is it just the new Bobcat staff that is owning us in-state? Do you see why I am not a Stitt supporter? There are way too many concerns with this guy to laud the accolades that most of you grant him. As I have said before, we will know the answer in December whether he can be the coach to lead us back to where most of us want to be.

No, i definitely don't think you were right all along. You said in your Cats own Us Maroonblood rant that the Griz got owned as a result of the Cats getting Brian Floetketter. Even though you didn't hardly know his name. I'm sorry, but that right there discredited anything you think you know about in-state recruiting. And, on top of that, the 2016 recruiting classes weren't even close. Montana had the No. 1 class in the Big Sky and the No. 3 class in the FCS. In fact, the 2016 Griz class was so good, inclluding your boy Reece Phillips, it even prompted Beau Baldwin to comment publicly about it. And, Beau Baldwin knows a hell of a lot more about football and recruiting around these parts than you, me, Payton or Vim. I'll take his word over all of us any day.

Having said all that, I did admit, with these three VERBAL commits, the Griz are getting owned as far as the 2017 class is concerned. Anything before that, no, you didn't know what you were talking about all along.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

I'll say this, just for ATL's benefit. The Griz did indeed get owned on Montana's big three upcoming seniors. K ATL, satisfied?

I too have heard the same things about UM's approach to in-state kids vs MSU's since Choate was hired. But, let's not forget, Choate brought on two guys with extremely strong ties to Montana High School football in BJ and Brian. I know Vim, I know Matt Miller and Gerald Alexander are heavily involved too. I get that. But, I think it's very naive to discredit what BJ in particular is doing for in-state recruiting. He is one of the most well-liked and well-respected football coaches in Montana at any level. The high school coaches love hm, the kids love him, hell I love him. And it was genius for Choate to put him where he is on that staff, and it's paying big dividends, and to discredit that factor is just wrong. BJ and Brian Armstrong will continue to make a huge difference in Montana recruiting for years to come if they're there.

Now, for Griz fans who will rebut by saying "We have strong in-state guys too" in Selle and Ferriter and now Schann. It's not the same thing, at least not yet. Yes, those guys were Griz football heros, and great MHSA players in their day. But they don't have the kind of relationships with the high schools in Montana that BJ and Brian have built up in their time in the Frontier Conference. Give them 5-10 years if they do it right, and that will change. But, they have not been driving across the state, from Wibaux to Libby to Billings to Havre like BJ and Brian have done for the last decade. It's just not the same. MSU has a big in-state recruiting advantage right now. It's just the way it is.

So now, the dumbass know-nothing that I am was correct all along? Or, is it just the new Bobcat staff that is owning us in-state? Do you see why I am not a Stitt supporter? There are way too many concerns with this guy to laud the accolades that most of you grant him. As I have said before, we will know the answer in December whether he can be the coach to lead us back to where most of us want to be.

No, i definitely don't think you were right all along. You said in your Cats own Us Maroonblood rant that the Griz got owned as a result of the Cats getting Brian Floetketter. Even though you didn't hardly know his name. I'm sorry, but that right there discredited anything you think you know about in-state recruiting. And, on top of that, the 2016 recruiting classes weren't even close. Montana had the No. 1 class in the Big Sky and the No. 3 class in the FCS. In fact, the 2016 Griz class was so good, inclluding your boy Reece Phillips, it even prompted Beau Baldwin to comment publicly about it. And, Beau Baldwin knows a hell of a lot more about football and recruiting around these parts than you, me, Payton or Vim. I'll take his word over all of us any day.

Having said all that, I did admit, with these three VERBAL commits, the Griz are getting owned as far as the 2017 class is concerned. Anything before that, no, you didn't know what you were talking about all along.

Oh, because I couldn't spell his name, I have no credibility? Pathetic, even for a sugar-coater like you. I assure you that Brian F. would have started for us. You put me to sleep with your sucrose. It's not even sucrose, it's galactose!

 

[bgbigdog]

Forty-five (or more) new guys on the team this year. Yup, Stitt sucks big time @ recruiting. Choke needs the new bodies, the "purge" happens pretty quckly after state ag goes 4-7 post year one. I for one hope they do get some players there. Hanging half a hundo on this bunch of losers on a regular basis will get old. To get ready for the tournament, the Griz need to play some real football in November as opposed to the crap we've seen for so long now.

Time to get over where the kids come from. The Montana kids who want to be Griz, and are good enough to be D1 players, will be. The kids go want what state ag has, will go there.

 

[behappp]

From the other recruiting forum

I know this isn't related to Griz recruiting but just to let you guys know how NDSU is doing for 2017 Recruiting:

Luke Chuol, 6-3, 235, DL, Circle Pines (Centennial), MN (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Lincoln Gibbs, 5-11, 205, RB/FB, Langford, SD (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Holden Hotchkiss, 6-4, 205, QB, Lakeland, FL (Rival & 247 - 3-star; Scout - 2-star)
Nash Jensen, 6-3, 350, OG, Osseo, MN (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Phazione McClurge, 6-1, 190, S, Chicago (Mount Carmel), IL (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Logan McCormick, 6-3, 240, DE, Kimberly, WI (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Brandon Metz, 6-1, 270, DT, West Fargo, ND (No ranking but the best DL in North Dakota)
Tanner Sundt, 6-4, 240, DE, Farmington, MN (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Spencer Waege, 6-5, 230, DL, Watertown, SD (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Zach Willis, 6-5, 290, OL, West Fargo, ND (247 - 2-star; best OL in North Dakota)

They just don't stop loading up do they.

I notice that 80% of these recruits are not from ND.
That must mean that the NDSU program is on the way down since they are relying so much on out-of-state recruiting.

 

[catsack]

The bobs can spunk all over themselves about these verbals, but the only reason they have verbaled to the bobs is because the Griz have not offered yet! Most of these kids will play their senior season and get other offers and end up somewhere else. If a kid is offered the same amount and chooses msu over the Griz he is either interested in a engineering degree or an Ag degree. With all the facilities and winning record favoring the Griz it only makes sense that if a kid has verbaled to the cats he hasn't been offered by the Griz yet. They are just getting excited over these early verbals because they can't talk about their preseason #1 accolades this year! Mike Drop!!!!

You're getting f'ing owned in recruiting. Mic drop.

Please explain looks pretty even between the two collie boy

See hav's post above. Dipshit.

We got four you got three Montana commits , two with very strong ties to msu that's really owning us ! Like I said so far it's even on instate recruiting griz slightly ahead ! Vimsince 03 AKA Kane Ione will change his rankings to fit where the kids have committed !

 

[Bloomberg75]

I think there are several things happening. These are just what I am seeing.

1- yes, msu is being much more agressive in state
2- UM has a wait and see approach. I.E. Even though these appear to be great football players
None of them has played their senior years
3- Hashley and the beaver head HS player were or are influenced by family ties
4- I have stated several times that UM has done terrible job with the Glacier team
Not Bennetts fault but Stitt and The previous coach both have dropped the ball
(See Horn, Haliburton, Jeffries, etc... I think it's there are 6 current and two new verbals)
5- UM and Stitt think instate kids can "afford" to play for less because of instate cost
(This is not uncommon throughout all coaching recruiting-nationwide)
6- Stitt places weight on academics, so that he can use academic Scollies
7- (my least favorite), I think the coaching staff values out of state players more.
8- Stitt wants the best players he can get, so I hope/believe he has those kids
Highest on his wish list.

Raider is having a massive MI reading your post...........

This just supports once again why I am not a Stitt fan. Look, I am not a Montana native, and only live in Montana a portion of the year, but I understand the importance of building the base of our team with Montana bred players. I will not go into the many reasons, as I have posted them before and taken lots of shots for stating them. But I stand firmly by the notion that we will never get back to a national championship caliber team unless we go back to owning the in-state recruiting. There is just too much competition for the good out-of-state players to expect to stock our entire roster with them. Furthermore, the top 7-8 in-state kids can match or surpass many of the out-of-staters we recruit in most years. Focusing on out-of-state players is the approach the Cats used to take, and it never worked. We dominated them. But it seems like the have made a commitment to rule the in-state recruiting, while Stitt and staff have pulled back. I predict this will bite us in the arse.

It has paid off huge for the Cats, since you know, they have been out recruiting the Griz for years.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

From the other recruiting forum

I know this isn't related to Griz recruiting but just to let you guys know how NDSU is doing for 2017 Recruiting:

Luke Chuol, 6-3, 235, DL, Circle Pines (Centennial), MN (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Lincoln Gibbs, 5-11, 205, RB/FB, Langford, SD (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Holden Hotchkiss, 6-4, 205, QB, Lakeland, FL (Rival & 247 - 3-star; Scout - 2-star)
Nash Jensen, 6-3, 350, OG, Osseo, MN (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Phazione McClurge, 6-1, 190, S, Chicago (Mount Carmel), IL (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Logan McCormick, 6-3, 240, DE, Kimberly, WI (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Brandon Metz, 6-1, 270, DT, West Fargo, ND (No ranking but the best DL in North Dakota)
Tanner Sundt, 6-4, 240, DE, Farmington, MN (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Spencer Waege, 6-5, 230, DL, Watertown, SD (Scout & 247 - 2-star)
Zach Willis, 6-5, 290, OL, West Fargo, ND (247 - 2-star; best OL in North Dakota)

They just don't stop loading up do they.

I notice that 80% of these recruits are not from ND.
That must mean that the NDSU program is on the way down since they are relying so much on out-of-state recruiting.

Nice try, but every football fan knows that the FCS level talent is just not there in North Dakota or South Dakota. We got the Gatorade player-of-the-year from South Dakota (Hermey), and he wasn't even that good. But Fargo is essentially in Minnesota, and they get lots of their talent from that state.

 

[brewskis]

One of Tadan Gilman's interview quotes with Skyline Sports:

“As much as the Griz has had success in the past, the ‘Cats, how much different they approach the player, when I went to individual camps, I went to both of them and when I was down in Bozeman, every single coach was jumping around and hyped up,” Gilman said. “The Griz, as much experience as they have, I didn’t feel that same connection and energetic feel that I felt with the Bobcats.”

http://skylinesportsmt.com/gilman-relieved-by-choosing-montana-state-before-senior-season/

So coaching ability should be measured by how high they can jump?


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[HookedonGriz]

One of Tadan Gilman's interview quotes with Skyline Sports:

“As much as the Griz has had success in the past, the ‘Cats, how much different they approach the player, when I went to individual camps, I went to both of them and when I was down in Bozeman, every single coach was jumping around and hyped up,” Gilman said. “The Griz, as much experience as they have, I didn’t feel that same connection and energetic feel that I felt with the Bobcats.”

http://skylinesportsmt.com/gilman-relieved-by-choosing-montana-state-before-senior-season/

So coaching ability should be measured by how high they can jump?


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Hahaha its what I thought, too. Let those ass hats jump around all they want as long as we continue to DOMINATE them in the field, in a game, where it counts. None of this other crap counts. Getting certain recruits doesn't count. Winning football does. And the Griz are what, 31-5, in the last 36 match ups. Time to cue up some Kriss Kross at KittyCat Stadium because those bitches can jump around all they want.

 

[Ursa Major]

One of Tadan Gilman's interview quotes with Skyline Sports:

“As much as the Griz has had success in the past, the ‘Cats, how much different they approach the player, when I went to individual camps, I went to both of them and when I was down in Bozeman, every single coach was jumping around and hyped up,” Gilman said. “The Griz, as much experience as they have, I didn’t feel that same connection and energetic feel that I felt with the Bobcats.”

http://skylinesportsmt.com/gilman-relieved-by-choosing-montana-state-before-senior-season/

So coaching ability should be measured by how high they can jump?


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#handsize

 

[mrknowitall]

"every single coach was jumping around and hyped up" This behavior in the past has sent Cat coaches to prison.