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2015/16 GRIZ Final Thoughts

mtgrizrule

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Granted, I know the GRIZ are still playing post season basketball, but due to schedule, I thought now would be a good time to post this. I hope the GRIZ send Martin Breunig out with a CBI Championship. If they beat Nevada, it looks possible too. It is hard for me to get excited for this tournament. I was hoping and wanting an NCAA Tournament appearance. Weber State winning he conference tournament did not surprise me though. Their defense combined with the GRIZ inconsistent 3 point shooting was not a good a matchup for the GRIZ this season.

That conference championship played out just like the season did. The GRIZ did as well as their perimeter shooting would take them. One game they would light up the scoreboard with 40% plus shooting with 8+ plus 3 pointers made. Yet other games, would struggle to hit 33% of their 3's. Brandon Gfeller was the epitome of this, as well. He either hit 4 plus 3's or did next to nothing. Come the end of the conference season, DeCuire cut his minutes dramatically. That is understandable. He just could not know what to expect from Gfeller game to game. That is disappointing, being Gfeller has an absolutely beautiful shot. Despite that, he just could not find his shot consistently from game to game. I hope Travis's tough love approach with Gfeller pays huge dividends this offseason and next season. Gfeller has the potential to be all conference, but just has not been able to perform consistently enough to do it. My hope is, Gfeller dedicates his off season to ball handling and creating for himself off the dribble. For him to be an impact player he has to add this element to his game. His desmise was opportunity for others though.

Mario Dunn and Bobby Moorehead benefitted with more playing time at the end of the season. Dunn has played well the last month as he got healthy again. Meanwhile, freshman G/F, Bobby Moorehead gained the confidence of DeCuire as the season progressed. Moorehead played well beyond that of a true Freshman. Like Gfeller he is a terrific shooter as well. In my opinion, he is more consistent though and a better penetrator. He is very confident in his game. He has no conscience and looks to shoot with the slightest opening for him to get his shot off. For such a young player, he is mentally mature beyond his age and has a very bright future ahead of him. To me, his emergence was a great surprise this season.

The other surprises were Michael Oguine and Jack Lopez. Oguine delivered on high expectations, but surpassed them. Oguine has the athleticism, awareness, confidence, ball handling, quickness, and shooting ability to take over any game at any time, when called upon . He is also the best on the ball perimeter defender already, as a true freshman. In my opinion, he is an NBA prospect. He needs to develop and prove his point guard skills as his college career advances to improve his chances at the next level. Forunately, he has 3 more years to build his game and resume.

Jack Lopez emerging to be consistent versatile player on both ends of the court was huge for the GRIZ. He brought the team a little of everything. As he emerged the team took off along with him. As the season progressed he turned out to fill the offensive void as Krslovic and Gfeller struggled to find their offense. When they struggled, Lopez could be counted on to do whatever was needed and asked of him to do. Pretty amazing, considering he is not a post player, but a true versatile perimeter player on both ends of the court. He is every coaches dream of a versatile great attitude player off the bench, and willing to accept any role asked of him, from game to game. Every team needs a Jack Lopez type of player on it.

As good as Lopez, Oguine, and Lopez were, Gfeller and Krslovic were equally disappointing with inconsistent offensive. I am not saying they were bad, but had they found consistent offense, the GRIZ would have faired a few games better this season. Both have great attitudes and variables that should allow for them to be huge factors for the remainder of their GRIZ careers. Krslovic is still young and raw, but with Breunig graduating, he will be heavily relied on to become an offensive threat next season in the post. Fabijan, needs to dedicate his off season to offense only! Rest of his game is already sound, and physically, he is among the better post defenders in the league already. As for Gfeller, see above.

Speaking of Breunig, what a treat he has been in his 2 years. He has been a nightmare matchup for opponents to control. His athleticism, work ethic, and overall game will be hard to replace next season. I hope his work ethic and confidence is inherited by Krslovic, Boehning, and DeJong. All of which have a huge opportunity to emerge in his absense. The offseason is key for each of them. The GRIZ will need each of them next season.

This season, the GRIZ guard play was an absolute joy to watch on both ends of the court. Wright, Dunn, and Oguine are all dynamic all confernce type talents. Walter Wright certainly took to DeCuire's coaching. That kid is capable of averaging 15 points and 7 assists per game next season. Dunn, just needs to be completely healthy next season. Oguine just needs to continue to develop his game. Oguine is a very rare talent in this conference. Hard to believe all the guards return, plus 2 more. Ahmed Rorie and Sayeed Pridgett bring that kind of talent, or better to the team next season. Both are athletic and versatile. From the scrimmages and pick up games I saw this fall/winter, Ahmed Rorie was the best guard on the team. He will be every bit as exicting as Breunig has been, just at guard though.

Finally, my awards to close this.
Defensive player of the year- Oguine.
Most Valuble Player- Breunig
Newcomer of the year- Wright (Oguine and Moorehead were terrific as well).
My 1st Jordan Gregory Award (biggest improvement from last season to big contributor the next)-
Jack Lopez. With that said, I don't know what his off season consists of, but his emergence during this season was unexpected and huge for his team.

Good luck GRIZ, bring home the CBI Championship!!! Thanks for a great season boys. :thumb:
 
Nice post, but have to add that Krislovic does more than you credit him. He rebounds, boxes, sets pics, the guy is probably one of the best non high scoring players UM has had in years. His weakness is that he sometimes appears surprised to find himself open and the ball coming to him under the basket. He'll do better next year. He is a handful for everyone in this league. As for Michael Oguine, he is a good one for sure. But, surprisingly, the Big Sky top teams have some pretty good guards, themselves. I think he is the leader in aggressive defense. He can only approve. Guard play for the Griz is looking brighter for sure.
 
This is cool, mtgrizrule. A great read. I, however, am going to wait until the Griz have played their last game of the season (hopefully after a couple of weeks) before commenting. But this is a great baseline for further discussion. Again, thanks for this!

I DO want to stress one thing strongly about Montana's involvement in the CBI postseason tourney. The last time the Griz participated, they lost on their home floor (March 2011) to Duquesne in a disappointing finish to the year (Will Cherry's sophomore year and Kareem Jamar's frosh year). There were many questions asked by fans, and many others (players and coaches included) regarding whether it was a positive or negative experience for Montana... particularly a season that ended with two straight heartbreaking losses.


Positive. That last loss was evidence that the Montana Grizzlies would have to up their game or face the same disappointment the following year. What happened was the opposite: Back-to-back Big Sky Conference championships. Two straight trips to the NCAA finals. The loss to Duquesne was the first challenge to the Griz to up their game. Enough said. So, regardless of the outcome of this year's postseason, the Grizzlies will have a solid foundation upon which to build over the next one, two or three years. They have the players and the coaches to succeed. The rest is up to them. I'm betting that they have the stuff to achieve program results similar (if not better) than the teams of 2012-13.
 
Good posts.

As I look back on 2015/2016, and forward to 2016/2017:

I was pleasantly surprised by Krislovic and Moorehead this season;

I am extremely excited by the guard play we have to look forward to next season (especially Oguine, Wright, Dunn, Rorie and Pridgett); and

I'm absolutely terrified by the thought of losing Martin Breunig, but that's tempered a little by the prospect of having Alphonso Anderson on the roster, and maybe picking up a few other surprises at the 4/5 positions.
 
The one thing I've learned watching (a lot) of NBA this year is, you have to be able to shoot the damned ball. Will Cherry is NBA quick but couldn't shoot well enough to make it. And thanks to the Splash Brothers, pro players are extending their shooting range w-a-y downtown. (In fact, I wonder what took the NBA so long to adjust to the three-point line. Oh, yeah--mastadons like Charles Barkley.) The other night I saw an interview with Bill Self, the Kansas coach, and when asked what was needed for success at the Big Dance, he said simply, "Make shots."

In addition to a bit more height up front, this is what I want to see from the Griz next year--some shooters. Moorehead looks like a good one. Maybe Gfeller will finally find consistency, but I'm not counting on it, and apparently neither is DeCuire. I don't know about Rorie. We'll have more quicks, hops and athleticism next year than we've probably ever had, we just need somebody who can consistently get us a bucket when we need it. In the end, against Weber, we played better defense, which is usually enough to win you games. But they had the shooters.
 
GrizLA said:
Nice post, but have to add that Krislovic does more than you credit him. He rebounds, boxes, sets pics, the guy is probably one of the best non high scoring players UM has had in years. His weakness is that he sometimes appears surprised to find himself open and the ball coming to him under the basket. He'll do better next year. He is a handful for everyone in this league. As for Michael Oguine, he is a good one for sure. But, surprisingly, the Big Sky top teams have some pretty good guards, themselves. I think he is the leader in aggressive defense. He can only approve. Guard play for the Griz is looking brighter for sure.

By the way, I did only post he needs to find offensive consistency. I never said anything negative regarding rest of his game. I also did say that he is one of the leagues better low post defenders. :thumb:
 
citay said:
The one thing I've learned watching (a lot) of NBA this year is, you have to be able to shoot the damned ball. Will Cherry is NBA quick but couldn't shoot well enough to make it. And thanks to the Splash Brothers, pro players are extending their shooting range w-a-y downtown. (In fact, I wonder what took the NBA so long to adjust to the three-point line. Oh, yeah--mastadons like Charles Barkley.) The other night I saw an interview with Bill Self, the Kansas coach, and when asked what was needed for success at the Big Dance, he said simply, "Make shots."

In addition to a bit more height up front, this is what I want to see from the Griz next year--some shooters. Moorehead looks like a good one. Maybe Gfeller will finally find consistency, but I'm not counting on it, and apparently neither is DeCuire. I don't know about Rorie. We'll have more quicks, hops and athleticism next year than we've probably ever had, we just need somebody who can consistently get us a bucket when we need it. In the end, against Weber, we played better defense, which is usually enough to win you games. But they had the shooters.

Weber State does not have more shooters than the GRIZ. The difference was in that game, their shooter hit their shots, and ours did not. I just watched that game again today. It was amazing the number of open shots we missed, and they hit. They too had there fair share of games when they they struggled from the perimeter. They just came through in the biggest game of the year to make the dance. We did not.
 
citay said:
The one thing I've learned watching (a lot) of NBA this year is, you have to be able to shoot the damned ball. Will Cherry is NBA quick but couldn't shoot well enough to make it. And thanks to the Splash Brothers, pro players are extending their shooting range w-a-y downtown. (In fact, I wonder what took the NBA so long to adjust to the three-point line. Oh, yeah--mastadons like Charles Barkley.) The other night I saw an interview with Bill Self, the Kansas coach, and when asked what was needed for success at the Big Dance, he said simply, "Make shots." ...
You are aware that when Barkley joined the NBA, the scoring average for the league was over 110 points per game ... and has since dropped to the 95-97 ppg range? Not sure if "mastodon" Barkley had anything at all to do with that.

The stats do seem to make your point, however, in a reverse kind of way. The real question: Why has the scoring average dropped despite the fact that teams (supposedly, per mastodon "Big "O"), don't or can't play hard-nosed, physical defense? Heavier use of the 3-pointer may eventually raise the scoring average, but it sure has not done so yet. My "mastodonic" theory -- but one shared by some supposed experts -- is that young players have focused too much on the three-pointer OR the flashy drive to the basket, where they kick it out or throw up a hope shot. The boring higher-percentage mid-range jumper is almost extinct -- although it may be staging a comeback.
 
I would really like the Griz to get more consistent at finishing next year. It has been a little bit of a bugaboo in TDC's 2 years as coach, and if it continues, it'll be really concerning.

At Cal and Boise St (?) A couple years ago. The collapse against EWU in the tourney last year. The collapse against Sac St, San Jose State and NCU this year. Not being able to close the deal after taking the lead against Weber.

I'm not trying to take anything away from the Griz opponents, and I understand that there'll be a stinker here or there, but it feels like a problem when you aren't really sure how a team will finish off a game.
 
MissoulaMarinerFan said:
I would really like the Griz to get more consistent at finishing next year. It has been a little bit of a bugaboo in TDC's 2 years as coach, and if it continues, it'll be really concerning.

At Cal and Boise St (?) A couple years ago. The collapse against EWU in the tourney last year. The collapse against Sac St, San Jose State and NCU this year. Not being able to close the deal after taking the lead against Weber.

I'm not trying to take anything away from the Griz opponents, and I understand that there'll be a stinker here or there, but it feels like a problem when you aren't really sure how a team will finish off a game.

Who the ef is NCU....
 
MissoulaMarinerFan said:
I would really like the Griz to get more consistent at finishing next year. It has been a little bit of a bugaboo in TDC's 2 years as coach, and if it continues, it'll be really concerning.

At Cal and Boise St (?) A couple years ago. The collapse against EWU in the tourney last year. The collapse against Sac St, San Jose State and NCU this year. Not being able to close the deal after taking the lead against Weber.

I'm not trying to take anything away from the Griz opponents, and I understand that there'll be a stinker here or there, but it feels like a problem when you aren't really sure how a team will finish off a game.

Spot on fan. :clap:
 
mtgrizrule----well said with the addition of hoping DeJong wants to be an offensive threat. It looks like he has the body to do that.
 
We have a damn good coach and he has done a great job the last 2 years. I sure want to see him stick around for 6 plus years.
 
griz71 said:
MissoulaMarinerFan said:
I would really like the Griz to get more consistent at finishing next year. It has been a little bit of a bugaboo in TDC's 2 years as coach, and if it continues, it'll be really concerning.

At Cal and Boise St (?) A couple years ago. The collapse against EWU in the tourney last year. The collapse against Sac St, San Jose State and NCU this year. Not being able to close the deal after taking the lead against Weber.

I'm not trying to take anything away from the Griz opponents, and I understand that there'll be a stinker here or there, but it feels like a problem when you aren't really sure how a team will finish off a game.

Spot on fan. :clap:

If you're going to count Montana's poor finishes, then I believe it's only fair to see if their strong finishes balance out. So, what about Montana's final 5-minutes-of-play finish this season v.s. Boise State? North Dakota and Montana State on the road? Cal Sacramento and Idaho in tourney play (after earlier losses to both teams)? Griz won several games last year in grand fashion down the stretch. I do NOT see a pattern of late-game fades.
 
grizzlyjournal said:
griz71 said:
MissoulaMarinerFan said:
I would really like the Griz to get more consistent at finishing next year. It has been a little bit of a bugaboo in TDC's 2 years as coach, and if it continues, it'll be really concerning.

At Cal and Boise St (?) A couple years ago. The collapse against EWU in the tourney last year. The collapse against Sac St, San Jose State and NCU this year. Not being able to close the deal after taking the lead against Weber.

I'm not trying to take anything away from the Griz opponents, and I understand that there'll be a stinker here or there, but it feels like a problem when you aren't really sure how a team will finish off a game.

Spot on fan. :clap:

If you're going to count Montana's poor finishes, then I believe it's only fair to see if their strong finishes balance out. So, what about Montana's final 5-minutes-of-play finish this season v.s. Boise State? North Dakota and Montana State on the road? Cal Sacramento and Idaho in tourney play (after earlier losses to both teams)? Griz won several games last year in grand fashion down the stretch. I do NOT see a pattern of late-game fades.
Fair point - I guess the losses just stick out more than the "w's."
 
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