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12500???

havgrizfan said:
I'll just agree to disagree. I don't think a Nov. 28 game against Georgia State would "quite a bit higher". Anyway, the bottom line is, we all agree attendance on this particular weekend has always been weak. That's not up for date, I'm just saying it's a new development for it to be 12,500 weak.

Think it has more to do with 7-4 than you want to admit....
 
AZGrizFan said:
Potomac Griz said:
havgrizfan said:
And on the other hand, this is just another example of why we as a fan base have zero business proclaiming that we are FBS Big Time ready. The fans who aren't going to the game Saturday would be the same fans who would still have "other s--t going on" if the Griz were playing Georgia State in a Sun Belt game this weekend.

Apples and oranges. That would be a regular season conference game (so season ticket holders would already have the tickets). Attendance would likely be quite a bit higher because of that.

I was at the UT/Texas Tech game last night. I bet there were 40,000 empty seats in that 105,000 sat stadium. What's their excuse?

Looked like it was a wet one from what I saw on TV.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Potomac Griz said:
havgrizfan said:
And on the other hand, this is just another example of why we as a fan base have zero business proclaiming that we are FBS Big Time ready. The fans who aren't going to the game Saturday would be the same fans who would still have "other s--t going on" if the Griz were playing Georgia State in a Sun Belt game this weekend.

Apples and oranges. That would be a regular season conference game (so season ticket holders would already have the tickets). Attendance would likely be quite a bit higher because of that.

I was at the UT/Texas Tech game last night. I bet there were 40,000 empty seats in that 105,000 sat stadium. What's their excuse?

Maybe because Texas sucks this year and is 4-7? Our attendance would likely dip a bit too if we were 7th place in our conference. Maybe other factors like the weather (was it pouring?), etc? I don't know I don't follow Texas that closely. Also, official attendance for that game was 94,299.

My point was that a person shouldn't use low attendance for an FCS playoff game as evidence that the Griz aren't ready for a move up & imply our regular season attendance would be similar. Our regular season attendance, even if we're playing a team like FT Lewis, shows why that argument is flawed.

Besides, teams have moved up and been successful that didn't have near the support the Griz have.. but that's an argument for another thread.

havgrizfan said:
I'll just agree to disagree. I don't think a Nov. 28 game against Georgia State would "quite a bit higher".

We will have to agree to disagree on that one. I think if we manage to draw over 20,000 for teams like Oklahoma Panhandle State while the entire state is on fire and it's 850 degrees we'd draw pretty close to our average attendance for a regular season game against Georgia State when it's actual football weather out (cold!) & they've already paid for the tickets due to them being part of the season ticket package. People having already paid for the tickets helps encourage them to attend.

It is disappointing that only 12,500 have sold so far. It's not like we are playing a non-scholarship team like last year. SDSU is a hell of a team & the weather is going to be awesome football weather :thumb:
 
Potomac Griz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Potomac Griz said:
havgrizfan said:
And on the other hand, this is just another example of why we as a fan base have zero business proclaiming that we are FBS Big Time ready. The fans who aren't going to the game Saturday would be the same fans who would still have "other s--t going on" if the Griz were playing Georgia State in a Sun Belt game this weekend.

Apples and oranges. That would be a regular season conference game (so season ticket holders would already have the tickets). Attendance would likely be quite a bit higher because of that.

I was at the UT/Texas Tech game last night. I bet there were 40,000 empty seats in that 105,000 sat stadium. What's their excuse?

Maybe because Texas sucks this year and is 4-7? Our attendance would likely dip a bit too if we were 7th place in our conference. Also, official attendance for that game was 94,299.

The argument being made (using our low possible attendance numbers for this playoff game) is apples and oranges. A person shouldn't point to low attendance for an FCS playoff game as evidence that the Griz aren't ready for a move up & insinuating our regular season attendance would be similar. Our regular season attendance, even if we're playing a team like FT Lewis, shows why that argument is flawed.

Besides, teams have moved up and been successful that didn't have near the support the Griz have.. but that's an argument for another thread.

havgrizfan said:
I'll just agree to disagree. I don't think a Nov. 28 game against Georgia State would "quite a bit higher".

We will have to agree to disagree on that one. I think if we manage to draw over 20,000 for teams like Oklahoma Panhandle State while the entire state is on fire and it's 850 degrees we'd draw pretty close to our average attendance for a regular season game against Georgia State when it's actual football weather out (cold!) & they've already paid for the tickets due to them being part of the season ticket package. People having already paid for the tickets helps encourage them to attend.

It is disappointing that only 12,500 have sold so far. It's not like we are playing a non-scholarship team like last year. SDSU is a hell of a team & the weather is going to be awesome football weather :thumb:
Hey, I agree 100%. I was directing my comments at havre....and I can assure you, there were nowhere NEAR 94,000 people in that stadium. That might have been including number of season ticket holders, but there were empty seats EVERYWHERE. I bet there weren't 100 students in the north endzone. My seats were at the 50 yard line and there were empty seats all around me...
 
AZGrizFan said:
Hey, I agree 100%. I was directing my comments at havre....and I can assure you, there were nowhere NEAR 94,000 people in that stadium. That might have been including number of season ticket holders, but there were empty seats EVERYWHERE. I bet there weren't 100 students in the north endzone. My seats were at the 50 yard line and there were empty seats all around me...


Ahh, my bad. I probably misread something. Wouldn't be the first time :P

Yeah the "official" attendance numbers sure can be misleading at times. Have seen that at basketball games before where all the corporate seats were empty (but counted due to them being tickets sold) so the attendance sounds a lot better than it actually was. Good example of that was a day game during a weekday a few years ago on New Years eve day if I remember right (Men's BB got bumped for something else). The "official" attendance made it look not too bad... the actual attendance was god awful :(
 
havgrizfan said:
Box, I'm not saying that doesn't have something to do with it. It probably does. But then again, they were 1-2 with two pretty garbage losses in a row, and were 3-4 after a debacle against Weber and still drew over 25,000 for both of those rebound games. I don't think anyone is suggesting that a Thanksgiving weekend game should sell out - it never has, not only at Montana but in the history of the playoffs anywhere probably. But the last two seasons, this game has been especially bad, and wouldn't even fill up the original Wash-Griz.

And on the other hand, this is just another example of why we as a fan base have zero business proclaiming that we are FBS Big Time ready. The fans who aren't going to the game Saturday would be the same fans who would still have "other s--t going on" if the Griz were playing Georgia State in a Sun Belt game this weekend. Meanwhile, Nebraska is 5-6 with a very, very angry fan base, and there are 92,000 fans watching their game with Iowa right now.

Hav, that's not at all accurate.

You're ignoring the fact that an FBS game this week would be SCHEDULED. Fans could make plans to attend months in advance. Even most years we knew we'd be in the playoffs weeks in advance. This year we knew 6 days in advance. As CDA and I note above, it's damn tough to plan a trip 6 days out over a holiday weekend. Even locals may have made other plans this year thinking we weren't going to the playoffs.
 
MrTitleist said:
kemajic said:
fanofzoo said:
Should sell tickets for $10 a pop, make announcement.
The NCAA sets the ticket prices. They are known for their competence with regards to FCS.

Coastal Carolina tickets for the game this weekend were $15.. as usual, Montana is paying for everyone else's playoff experience.
That's exactly it. A host school cannot charge less for a playoff game than they do for their lowest priced regular season reserved seat -- and that is $35.
 
'68griz said:
MrTitleist said:
kemajic said:
fanofzoo said:
Should sell tickets for $10 a pop, make announcement.
The NCAA sets the ticket prices. They are known for their competence with regards to FCS.

Coastal Carolina tickets for the game this weekend were $15.. as usual, Montana is paying for everyone else's playoff experience.
That's exactly it. A host school cannot charge less for a playoff game than they do for their lowest priced regular season reserved seat -- and that is $35.

I guess our dear friends at the NCAA don't want to consider that market conditions may have changed since the regular season.
 
BWahlberg said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Anybody been in the ticket office today? Hopefully there are walk-ins buying up tickets today!

Was there this morning, hardly anyone else was there...

I was there around 4 and there was a small, but steady stream of people in and out. The girl at the ticket window said it'd been that way all day. I don't think the situation is any more dire than previous Thanksgiving games.
 
'68griz said:
MrTitleist said:
kemajic said:
fanofzoo said:
Should sell tickets for $10 a pop, make announcement.
The NCAA sets the ticket prices. They are known for their competence with regards to FCS.

Coastal Carolina tickets for the game this weekend were $15.. as usual, Montana is paying for everyone else's playoff experience.
That's exactly it. A host school cannot charge less for a playoff game than they do for their lowest priced regular season reserved seat -- and that is $35.

So, if UM took ten "regular season reserved seat"s, priced them at $10 each, it could lower the cost of playoff seats to somewhere under $35? Screw the NCAA with its own rules. :clap: :o :lol: y
 
get'em_griz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Potomac Griz said:
havgrizfan said:
And on the other hand, this is just another example of why we as a fan base have zero business proclaiming that we are FBS Big Time ready. The fans who aren't going to the game Saturday would be the same fans who would still have "other s--t going on" if the Griz were playing Georgia State in a Sun Belt game this weekend.

Apples and oranges. That would be a regular season conference game (so season ticket holders would already have the tickets). Attendance would likely be quite a bit higher because of that.

I was at the UT/Texas Tech game last night. I bet there were 40,000 empty seats in that 105,000 sat stadium. What's their excuse?

Looked like it was a wet one from what I saw on TV.
Wrong channel
 
UM or FCS has priced fans out of this game. Dayton has tix as low as $5 and nothing above $10. William Mary have tix as low as $15. Dumb decision making somewhere.
 
Fahque said:
get'em_griz said:
AZGrizFan said:
Potomac Griz said:
Apples and oranges. That would be a regular season conference game (so season ticket holders would already have the tickets). Attendance would likely be quite a bit higher because of that.

I was at the UT/Texas Tech game last night. I bet there were 40,000 empty seats in that 105,000 sat stadium. What's their excuse?

Looked like it was a wet one from what I saw on TV.
Wrong channel

:lol: Well, he's correct. Just not the "good" kind of wet....Although Tech DID win, so it was a nice ending to the evening...at least the best ending we were going to get surrounded by 70,000 people.
 
NativeGriz said:
UM or FCS has priced fans out of this game. Dayton has tix as low as $5 and nothing above $10. William Mary have tix as low as $15. Dumb decision making somewhere.

Everyone I know that is attending this game or not ...... was either going to.....or not. Never heard either side bitch about the price or use it as an excuse for not attending. Maybe I just know the wrong people.
 
signedbewildered said:
NativeGriz said:
UM or FCS has priced fans out of this game. Dayton has tix as low as $5 and nothing above $10. William Mary have tix as low as $15. Dumb decision making somewhere.

Everyone I know that is attending this game or not ...... was either going to.....or not. Never heard either side bitch about the price or use it as an excuse for not attending. Maybe I just know the wrong people.

I'd pay $100 per ticket to go to the game if I didn't have to pay $1200 per ticket to GET there.
 
Truthfully, who gives a shit? For those that have tickets, enjoy!
Geebus, when its full, you all bitch about 10,000 people that sit, or don't clap and scream.
These are the people to surround yourself with and enjoy the game!
Stop worrying and complaining if everyone isn't back at the start of the 3rd or if the stadium is half empty.
We have a PLAYOFF game, this weekends attendance has always been bad, so what...at least I could stand and cheer the way I wanted to.
Ive been to games when its half full, didn't change the way I root for the Griz.
The snow and road issues have come earlier this year. Over 70% of the crowd drives and doesn't live there.
Be a fan, support the team. State is home this weekend.

Now...... Up With Montana!
 
First playoff game I am missing in years. Has nothing to do with price. One month ago, I didn't think we were going to make the playoffs, and if we did, I thought we would be on the road. I have family obligations now.
 
AZGrizFan said:
signedbewildered said:
NativeGriz said:
UM or FCS has priced fans out of this game. Dayton has tix as low as $5 and nothing above $10. William Mary have tix as low as $15. Dumb decision making somewhere.

Everyone I know that is attending this game or not ...... was either going to.....or not. Never heard either side bitch about the price or use it as an excuse for not attending. Maybe I just know the wrong people.

I'd pay $100 per ticket to go to the game if I didn't have to pay $1200 per ticket to GET there.

This. I'm not saying the ticket price isn't keeping some people from attending but the ticket price itself is many times only a fraction of all of the associated and incurred expenses. Let's say tickets were $20 instead of $35. Family of four that's $60 (difference) That's breakfast, brunch or dinner for the day, that's a tank of gas, that's one nice GRIZ sweatshirt.

Likely a combination of things (many have mentioned here) but I don't think the price of a ticket is the biggest thing that's keeping fans away from the stadium this weekend.
 
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