The Bubble is down!

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

Which program are you talking about? Men's Baskeball?

Both programs lost money

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

Which program are you talking about? Men's Baskeball?

Both programs lost

Let's be real, any move to support students is a step in the right direction and the lack of finances that makes all the improvements impossible to complete on your timeline doesn't mean they don't really care.

What lawsuits? Give us a summary.

"Equal" treatment is defined under the law, regulation and case law. It doesn't say "equal". The doesn't mean the same or exactly the same.

Here is the wording of Title IX: "No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance."

I don't know what UM has for those facilities that were mentioned, nor do I know the law and practice.

Why don’t you go look at them and judge for yourself.

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

Let's be real, any move to support students is a step in the right direction and the lack of finances that makes all the improvements impossible to complete on your timeline doesn't mean they don't really care.

Fair statement

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

What lawsuits? Give us a summary.

"Equal" treatment is defined under the law, regulation and case law. It doesn't say "equal". The doesn't mean the same or exactly the same.

Here is the wording of Title IX: "No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance."

I don't know what UM has for those facilities that were mentioned, nor do I know the law and practice.

The University of Oregon is facing a landmark federal class-action Title IX lawsuit (Schroeder v. University of Oregon) filed by female beach volleyball and rowing athletes. The suit alleges systemic gender discrimination, unequal financial aid, and—notably—disparate Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) benefits facilitated by the school. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Core Allegations

• • Unequal Resources: Women comprise roughly 49% of varsity athletes, but plaintiffs claim the university allocates significantly lower percentages of its overall athletic and recruiting budgets to women's programs. [1]
  • Substandard Facilities: The women's beach volleyball team historically lacked dedicated on-campus locker rooms and permanent facility courts, forcing them to use public or off-campus spaces. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

Which program are you talking about? Men's Baskeball?

Men's basketball had the second-highest expenses ($3,497,311) and revenues ($1,578,277) in the department but ended with the largest negative margin ($1,919,034). Women's basketball had the second-largest deficit ($1,113,094) and ranked third in expenses ($2,289,658)

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Men's basketball had the second-highest expenses ($3,497,311) and revenues ($1,578,277) in the department but ended with the largest negative margin ($1,919,034). Women's basketball had the second-largest deficit ($1,113,094) and ranked third in expenses ($2,289,658)

Is this supposed to be shocking info?

 

[oldngrizzly]

Is this supposed to be shocking info?

no one said it was shocking. Just like Egriz, the university has losers also. The fact is when you lose money in business you try to figure out how to fix it so you don't.

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

Is this supposed to be shocking info?

Of course not the question was which sports generate or don’t generate revenue

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

Time to cut some fat

UM had an increase of $395,223 in support staff and administration compensation paid by the university and third parties. The total of $4,607,112 marked a program record after a prior high of $4,211,889 in FY 2024.

 

[GoldenMonte]

Every school in America is running their track and soccer programs at a loss. Football (and men's basketball at some schools) is the money maker for the entire AD. That's not an excuse for the UM athletic department to continually neglect the soccer and track facilities like they have.

Utah Tech has better soccer and track facilities than us, and they were D2 a decade ago

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Of course not the question was which sports generate or don’t generate revenue

I think most everyone knew that football was the only correct answer.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Every school in America is running their track and soccer programs at a loss. Football (and men's basketball at some schools) is the money maker for the entire AD. That's not an excuse for the UM athletic department to continually neglect the soccer and track facilities like they have.

Utah Tech has better soccer and track facilities than us, and they were D2 a decade ago

Could be because they push less money into maintaining their football facility.

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

I think most everyone knew that football was the only correct answer.

Not by much.

Football reported revenues of $9,884,612 and expenses of $8,889,687 for a net of $994,925. The expenses were a record high, eclipsing $8,792,165 in FY 2024

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I get that people are unhappy with the facilities and wanting to knock the AD for it, but for those bitching about it, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is? Or if you can’t afford to help, reach out to somebody who may be able to.

You can always email Haslam as well. If there’s one thing you can say about him it’s that he’s great at responding to emails. Perhaps he’d be willing to shed some light on all the issues mentioned here.

If I gave money, can I be unhappy with the bubble? Is there a threshold amount I had or have to give? Does supporting academics or, say, a sport other than football entitle one to be unhappy? I’m just trying to learn the rules here…

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Not by much.

Football reported revenues of $9,884,612 and expenses of $8,889,687 for a net of $994,925. The expenses were a record high, eclipsing $8,792,165 in FY 2024

10% is something especially when athlete student aid increased by 10% and athlete nutrition increased by over 10% from the previous year.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

If I gave money, can I be unhappy with the bubble? Is there a threshold amount I had or have to give? Does supporting academics or, say, a sport other than football entitle one to be unhappy? I’m just trying to learn the rules here…

You can be unhappy with the bubble whether you gave money or not. But complaining about the bubble if you didn't rings a bit hollow since lack of giving is the driving factor in why the bubble was deemed the best current approach.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

no one said it was shocking. Just like Egriz, the university has losers also. The fact is when you lose money in business you try to figure out how to fix it so you don't.

Reality is the AD only needs to break even as a whole. Individual sports running a deficit is just the cost of doing business.

 

[MontanaGrizSoccer]

Could be because they push less money into maintaining their football facility.

Reality is the AD only needs to break even as a whole. Individual sports running a deficit is just the cost of doing business.

Did AD brake even

 

[Griz til I die]

If I gave money, can I be unhappy with the bubble? Is there a threshold amount I had or have to give? Does supporting academics or, say, a sport other than football entitle one to be unhappy? I’m just trying to learn the rules here…

I wasn’t really referring to you. I was more referring to the posters on here who bitch about every little thing under the sun.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Did AD brake even

One year or ten year timeframe? I would suggest basing your entire argument on one year is misleading. Also, without knowing the future forecasting, leaves you a bit short on info.