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DL question

Okay that's some good info. Thanks.

Do you have any inside info on the current state of the strength and conditioning program? How realistic is it that some of these guys could add 10 or 15 lb over the summer? Or maybe more?
With the right frame, work, and dedication a lot of these big guys can easily add 10 lbs over 4 months. But imo that’s not enough. We need guys on the DL who are 280 and more. Have a couple but need more.
 
Okay that's some good info. Thanks.

Do you have any inside info on the current state of the strength and conditioning program? How realistic is it that some of these guys could add 10 or 15 lb over the summer? Or maybe more?
I wouldn't anticipate a huge shift in the weight program, although one area might be more of an emphasis on bulk for that interior d line, given the shift to a more traditional four down front and two DTs.

I do think dan ryan will have more freedom to implement his style / areas of emphasis than he did under BH. Not too sure if it'll be much different, or not.
 
I wouldn't anticipate a huge shift in the weight program, although one area might be more of an emphasis on bulk for that interior d line, given the shift to a more traditional four down front and two DTs.

I do think dan ryan will have more freedom to implement his style / areas of emphasis than he did under BH. Not too sure if it'll be much different, or not.

Everything always comes back to wait and see, doesn't it? Hard to accept in our current culture.

Sounds like the consensus is that there's just not enough time to pack the pounds on the guys we have and the portal is the answer at least in the short-term. Oh for the days when the coaches would give mysterious substances to their players and they would bulk up almost overnight. I'm kidding. I would never advocate for that, or even condone it, but I do remember those days.
 
With the right frame, work, and dedication a lot of these big guys can easily add 10 lbs over 4 months. But imo that’s not enough. We need guys on the DL who are 280 and more. Have a couple but need more.

I remember hearing something from an old Griz lineman, who talked about having to wake up in the middle of the night to eat because he couldn't get enough calories in during the day. I imagine it's not as easy as it sounds to pack on good weight when they burn as many calories as they do. It's pretty easy to gain 20-30-40 pounds if you're not doing much but a college football player is a calorie burning factory.
 
Everything always comes back to wait and see, doesn't it? Hard to accept in our current culture.

Sounds like the consensus is that there's just not enough time to pack the pounds on the guys we have and the portal is the answer at least in the short-term. Oh for the days when the coaches would give mysterious substances to their players and they would bulk up almost overnight. I'm kidding. I would never advocate for that, or even condone it, but I do remember those days.
I just bought a combo pack of a Sammy sosa and Mark McGuire action figurines at the card show i took my sons too last Saturday (not joking)... I too, yearn for the days of unbridled competitive advantages in sports via "controlled substances "! 😂😂

Bobby H. didnt like bulk the interior d line... he preferred speed. If done correctly, you can add mass / size and maintain speed. I do believe this will be an adjustment from Dan ryan. Looking at Mason right now, he's certainly bulked a bit. I can see 10-15 more even by fall camp.
 
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I remember hearing something from an old Griz lineman, who talked about having to wake up in the middle of the night to eat because he couldn't get enough calories in during the day. I imagine it's not as easy as it sounds to pack on good weight when they burn as many calories as they do. It's pretty easy to gain 20-30-40 pounds if you're not doing much but a college football player is a calorie burning factory.
That is 100% correct a lot of these guys will eat and eat and eat because of the calories they burn. They’re getting better at packing on good weight.
 
I remember hearing something from an old Griz lineman, who talked about having to wake up in the middle of the night to eat because he couldn't get enough calories in during the day. I imagine it's not as easy as it sounds to pack on good weight when they burn as many calories as they do. It's pretty easy to gain 20-30-40 pounds if you're not doing much but a college football player is a calorie burning factory.
Also sounds like we have picked up this big human

He is around 300 lbs now

 
That is 100% correct a lot of these guys will eat and eat and eat because of the calories they burn. They’re getting better at packing on good weight.
Eating 7-10000 calories a day while working out and taking classes is a chore. Imagine having to fit in 6-8 meals a day with your normal weekday schedule now. I can’t imagine. As you said they are trying to pack on good weight. A lot of guys will pack on a good amount of muscle the first year. Then it becomes a lot harder as there is only so much certain frames and body types can support.
 
A lot of guys will pack on a good amount of muscle the first year. Then it becomes a lot harder as there is only so much certain frames and body types can support.

It seems like a lot of our DL guys are tall. I don't really know about their frame size, but you would think a guy that's 6'4 or 6'5 should theoretically be able to get upwards of 285 or so. I wonder if any of the current guys will either be told to put on some muscle and pounds or they may be released later on? I don't know how all that's done but I would imagine there's a plan and it's not just all willy nilly.
 
Eating 7-10000 calories a day while working out and taking classes is a chore. Imagine having to fit in 6-8 meals a day with your normal weekday schedule now. I can’t imagine. As you said they are trying to pack on good weight. A lot of guys will pack on a good amount of muscle the first year. Then it becomes a lot harder as there is only so much certain frames and body types can support.
i agree - i knew a few ol an dl players back in the late 90's, and they made it sound like eating enough to keep their weight up was a chore. i watched them eat at a couple bbq's we all attended, and they would endlessly eat, and complain about it as the did because it was a 'job', and not pleasant. most of them lost a lot of weight after they were done, to the point of it taking a few minutes to realize who i was talking with a couple years down the road.
 
Not trying to be a hater, but I’m always a bit skeptical of players still available this late in the process. Not that we have any other choice…
I am skeptical, too. With the talent and depth we have at DE and LB though, my hope is that with a couple of bodies big enough to at least plug their gap then there is a good chance that the speed of the rest of the defense shines through.

And yes, I know that I am seeing it through maroon colored glasses, lol
 
I know the d line has been discussed a LOT but I have a question that I haven't really seen an answer to.

To explain, I was looking through the roster trying to familiarize myself with the new guys a bit, and was noticing that almost every defensive lineman weighs around 250, with the heaviest guys seeming to be around 265ish, maybe a bit more. I know that's too light for the style of defense they're going to be running, and I *also* know much has been discussed about getting heavier guys.

Having said all that, without going into portal guys, what can be done with the current roster in terms of development and putting on weight? Is it possible to put on enough weight in the next few months that some of them could actually make some strides toward playing a role this year? Or are they all too light and it takes too long to pack on the pounds without just getting fat? I'm asking because I just don't know What realistic expectations look like in this area. I also know that someone had mentioned that the weight training program was going to be changing from how it was administered under BH. So I'm wondering how that plays into all of this as well.
At Fresno State we underreported height and weight so......
 
I worked with Thatcher Szalay from ‘01 to ‘03 when I ETS’d from the military and went back to school. I recall he started out around 6’4’ish and maybe 230lbs, he packed on the size tho and earned many accolades as an O-lineman. Afterwards he spent several years with the Bengals if memory serves. All of that to say, it’s certainly possible for humans that size to pack on muscle and good weight.
 
I worked with Thatcher Szalay from ‘01 to ‘03 when I ETS’d from the military and went back to school. I recall he started out around 6’4’ish and maybe 230lbs, he packed on the size tho and earned many accolades as an O-lineman. Afterwards he spent several years with the Bengals if memory serves. All of that to say, it’s certainly possible for humans that size to pack on muscle and good weight.
Thanks for the reminder. I forgot about Thatcher.
 

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