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Trump to issue new sports/NIL executive order soon

You’re talking like these guys are being marched through some nightmare ordeal, when the reality is it’s more like having a full‑time job stacked on top of a full‑time degree. It’s demanding, absolutely, but it’s not some tragic, burdensome existence the way you’re framing it.

People don’t become Griz fans because of payrolls, NIL numbers, or which athlete got the biggest check. That has never been the foundation of Montana’s football culture.

We become Griz fans because of connection.

Because a parent or grandparent went to UM. Because a cousin played there.Because we grew up going to Washington–Grizzly Stadium bundled up in the cold. Because the whole state watched the Griz dominate decade after decade and it became part of our identity. Because we inherited the maroon and silver the same way people inherit family stories.

Montanans don’t follow the Griz because of player payouts, they follow them because of tradition, loyalty, and belonging built over generations. The program’s brand wasn’t created by a handful of big‑name athletes or NIL collectives; it was created by decades of fans who filled the stands long before any NIL deal existed.
The reality is the “full time job” is like getting into hundreds of car crashes per year on top of a full time degree program while there are posters like 406football sitting behind a keyboard in a climate controlled office saying you do not deserve any financial compensation for your labor or future ailments from said car crashes.
 
The reality is the “full time job” is like getting into hundreds of car crashes per year on top of a full time degree program while there are posters like 406football sitting behind a keyboard in a climate controlled office saying you do not deserve any financial compensation for your labor or future ailments from said car crashes.
I want my compensation for all the years of driving.
 
The reality is the “full time job” is like getting into hundreds of car crashes per year on top of a full time degree program while there are posters like 406football sitting behind a keyboard in a climate controlled office saying you do not deserve any financial compensation for your labor or future ailments from said car crashes.
What are you talking about? No, it's no like being in 100 car crashes per year. that's ludicrous. Have you been around football in the last 10 years? Practices? Not much hitting going on during the week. Should they get hazard pay as well?
 
What are you talking about? No, it's no like being in 100 car crashes per year. that's ludicrous. Have you been around football in the last 10 years? Practices? Not much hitting going on during the week. Should they get hazard pay as well?
I went to coach Stitt’s practice Saturday and will probably go to a few more spring practices. His program has a few full pad practices over spring with full hitting. He has more of an emphasis on execution and conditioning than most coaches so there is less hitting than most programs. I would have assumed Hauck would have been higher on full pad practices but I could be wrong. I never went to one of his practices didn’t particularly care to. If I am in Missoula I will swing by to see the team practice under BK. I’ve also been around ASU’s program which is known for having less of an emphasis on heavy hitting in full pads.
 
I went to coach Stitt’s practice Saturday and will probably go to a few more spring practices. His program has a few full pad practices over spring with full hitting. He has more of an emphasis on execution and conditioning than most coaches so there is less hitting than most programs. I would have assumed Hauck would have been higher on full pad practices but I could be wrong. I never went to one of his practices didn’t particularly care to. If I am in Missoula I will swing by to see the team practice under BK. I’ve also been around ASU’s program which is known for having less of an emphasis on heavy hitting in full pads.
so, you have no idea what a practice structure looks like? Did you notice how they teach tackling at Stitt's practice? It's not facemask to numbers anymore. did you know that most coaches focus on execution? have you listened to any of Cignetti's talking points about how he rarely has full pad days and practices no longer than 90 minutes? Poor kids. Most coaches in the country want to have their players healthy for game day. You haven't been around in a long time.
 
I went to coach Stitt’s practice Saturday and will probably go to a few more spring practices. His program has a few full pad practices over spring with full hitting. He has more of an emphasis on execution and conditioning than most coaches so there is less hitting than most programs. I would have assumed Hauck would have been higher on full pad practices but I could be wrong. I never went to one of his practices didn’t particularly care to. If I am in Missoula I will swing by to see the team practice under BK. I’ve also been around ASU’s program which is known for having less of an emphasis on heavy hitting in full pads.
Hauck was pretty open about doing less hitting in camps later in his career, actually.
 
so, you have no idea what a practice structure looks like? Did you notice how they teach tackling at Stitt's practice? It's not facemask to numbers anymore. did you know that most coaches focus on execution? have you listened to any of Cignetti's talking points about how he rarely has full pad days and practices no longer than 90 minutes? Poor kids. Most coaches in the country want to have their players healthy for game day. You haven't been around in a long time.
Yes there is less live tackling and more technique drills. The live tackling only happens in the few full pad practices. That doesn’t change my opinion that the players deserve to be getting paid something. It does seem ridiculous that some are making millions or even 6 figures to ride the bench at FBS. What is the average NIL at Montana? I would guess it is around $10k annually. That is not outlandish and is comparable to if someone had a part time student job as a non athlete.
 
Yes there is less live tackling and more technique drills. The live tackling only happens in the few full pad practices. That doesn’t change my opinion that the players deserve to be getting paid something. It does seem ridiculous that some are making millions or even 6 figures to ride the bench at FBS. What is the average NIL at Montana? I would guess it is around $10k annually. That is not outlandish and is comparable to if someone had a part time student job as a non athlete.
I have zero desire to enter this debate, but I'm really curious where you got the stats showing that a season of college football is the equivalent to hundreds of car crashes? Is that a study or a figure of speech?
 
I have zero desire to enter this debate, but I'm really curious where you got the stats showing that a season of college football is the equivalent to hundreds of car crashes? Is that a study or a figure of speech?
Figure of speech it isn’t from a study nor is it the same across all positions. Offensive and defensive line have the most car crash like collisions.
 
The other UNC has actually done a study on this showing a football hit is comparable to a moderate car crash when it comes to head impacts.

Thank you for the link. If we are talking concussions only, that makes sense. Odd to think about, but I've been wonder a lot lately if I were to have a son in the next few years, whether or not I would even let him participate in tackle football.
 
Well the scholarships were one year only and the School could terminate it at any time. Students were bound, but the University was not
Players have not been bound in recent history. They could transfer after their one-year scholarship ended.
 
Thank you for the link. If we are talking concussions only, that makes sense. Odd to think about, but I've been wonder a lot lately if I were to have a son in the next few years, whether or not I would even let him participate in tackle football.
Man, I have been having this debate with myself for a few years. I never wanted my son to start playing until middle school, but he loves football and all his friends are going to be playing. Small town where there isn't a lot of other options. Youth football is the most dangerous form of football, and Flag Football offers all the fundamentals needed for the next level of middle school, then High school. Flag Football should be a youth national sport similar to the Little League world series. Who enjoys watching 10 year olds get molly whopped? not me. Unfortunately, there is no other game in town, and I will have to coach to ensure the 22 kids that I have do not go through Oklahoma drills :oops:
 
Thank you for the link. If we are talking concussions only, that makes sense. Odd to think about, but I've been wonder a lot lately if I were to have a son in the next few years, whether or not I would even let him participate in tackle football.
I’ve thought the same thing. Football does provide more in terms of learning how to work together with other people doing different tasks towards a common goal more so than other sports in my opinion. It is also not the same experience with concussions across all positions. I would not encourage playing offensive line as they have the most head impacts. There are some great youth football programs. The youth program that feeds into Hamilton in Chandler has many former NFL players coaching. The majority of youth football programs and coaches have no idea what they are doing though. You don’t need to play tackle football before high school to be successful if there isn’t a youth program with coaches that know what they are doing in your area.
 
Get athletes a union to negotiate it. Include life long health benefits covering injuries sustained while playing.
It's probably headed toward a Union, contracts, and set standards. I knew this would happen, but a highly regarded player at BYU, who was a sure first rounder and maybe a lottery pick, is staying in school because the money is better there and already under contract. He could lose money by going to the NBA. Now, there is a twist to all of it. The pro leagues will have to start paying more for their rookies. I don't know how true it is, but I heard that BYU's basketball payroll is north of $9 million, with the majority going to a handfull of players.
 

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