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Montana Boys

3 National Championships in 50 years for Montana and Montana State.
Many Great players from both teams over those years that never won a championship!
NDSU, Sdsu, have won many championships without Montana players.
Instate recruiting is great for both teams and the battle for them is fun to watch however Montana born kids are not the reason for championships! They are a part of the Formula but a very tiny part.

Griz fans are just pissed that MSU beat the Griz twice and won the chipper!
The instate recruiting is now being used as an excuse for the loses.
Number 3 in the Nation with a 13-2 record is a great season! It also does not mean that I'm settling for mediocrity considering it has not been done many times by the Griz football program.
If it was Idaho or Davis that beat the Griz twice and won the NC there would be less bitching and gnashing teeth!
The cats won and you can't handle it!!!!!
 
5280Griz said:
Everyone has a different opinion on what great is but I generally agree with you that the last time the program was great was before 2011. 2010 season we missed the playoffs so if you don’t want to include Pflu you have to go back to 2009. That is probably the correct answer because while we reached the semis in 2011, the sanctions that occurred that season led to scholarship loss which made it more difficult to be competitive.
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The Griz lost but one conf game (Weber) in the four years 2006 - 2009 and that was quickly revenged in the playoffs. 32-1. That was a GREAT run. I don't think it has been equaled.
 
kemajic said:
The Griz lost but one conf game (Weber) in the four years 2006 - 2009 and that was quickly revenged in the playoffs. 32-1. That was a GREAT run. I don't think it has been equaled.
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MSU the past 4 years is pretty close. Their only conference losses since 2022 were in 2023 to Idaho and UM.
 
I know we're talking about "greatness" and montana boys and montana recruits and blah, blah blah blah - and I'm saying this tongue in cheek but Bob Stitt won more recently in Bozeman that Bobby - and hung a 50 burger at that!

Also tongue in cheek because the big sky and mvfc weren't quite the monsters they are today with 4-5 EXCELLENT teams but.....

His first year was pretty solid because nobody had film on his offense, but notable wins in his first year:
1. Beat NDSU
2. Beat UC Davis (davis was still....mediocre to not good during this time, I think)
3. Beat UND (pretty sure this was when UND was still in the Big Sky)
4. Beat EWU (57-16)
4. Beat state in Bozeman (54-35)
5. Beat SDSU at home in the Playoffs

Yes I know, the long term results were bad (and short term too, losing to portland state, bbq-u, and cal-poly) and were only going to get worse, but it is objectively funny to look back on. 🫣😉🤣
 
Mavman said:
3 National Championships in 50 years for Montana and Montana State.
Many Great players from both teams over those years that never won a championship!
NDSU, Sdsu, have won many championships without Montana players.
Instate recruiting is great for both teams and the battle for them is fun to watch however Montana born kids are not the reason for championships! They are a part of the Formula but a very tiny part.

Griz fans are just pissed that MSU beat the Griz twice and won the chipper!
The instate recruiting is now being used as an excuse for the loses.
Number 3 in the Nation with a 13-2 record is a great season! It also does not mean that I'm settling for mediocrity considering it has not been done many times by the Griz football program.
If it was Idaho or Davis that beat the Griz twice and won the NC there would be less bitching and gnashing teeth!
The cats won and you can't handle it!!!!!
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Four in fifty years. The Puds won in '84, and '25, and the Griz obviously in '95 and '01. But I agree with you on everything else
 
5280Griz said:
Puds also won in 1976. That is 5 in 50 years. If you go back 70 years you also get the Puds 1956 NAIA championship.
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Lol the Non-D1AA/FCS wins? That's laughable.

If that's the Case, then the most successful College football program in the State of Montana is.... drum roll... Carroll College with their six National Championships 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007 and 2010. They have eight NC appearances and 44 conference championships, .

You don't hear anyone talking about Carroll or including them in this National Championship discussion.

The Puds have two NC's and UM has two NC's.
 
SinCityGriz2005 said:
Lol the Non-D1AA/FCS wins? That's laughable.
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What's laughable is not knowing that Div II in 1976 was equal to if not better than IAA. The team they beat was a Div I team, Div IA, a couple years later. ALL the teams from IAA and a lot of IA were Div II in 1976. It's the equivalent of saying the griz don't have a FCS NC because it was IAA back in the olden days.
it's also laughable that the Cats kicked the crap out of the griz in 1956 when they were NAIA national champions and the griz were Div I. The griz like to shit on their championship.
 
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Skookum-Jim said:
What's laughable is not knowing that Div II in 1976 was equal to if not better than IAA. The team they beat was a Div I team, Div IA, a couple years later. ALL the teams from IAA and a lot of IA were Div II in 1976. It's the equivalent of saying the griz don't have a FCS NC because it was IAA back in the olden days.
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But but but... whatever puds fan.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
What's laughable is not knowing that Div II in 1976 was equal to if not better than IAA. The team they beat was a Div I team, Div IA, a couple years later. ALL the teams from IAA and a lot of IA were Div II in 1976. It's the equivalent of saying the griz don't have a FCS NC because it was IAA back in the olden days.
it's also laughable that the Cats kicked the crap out of the griz in 1956 when they were NAIA national champions and the griz were Div I. The griz like to shit on their championship.
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Did each school from the 56 tie ball game get a separate trophy or did they just cut it in half back then?
 
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All this talk about greatness really kind of puts into perspective just how incredible the cats' run right now is. Food for thought:

Montana 1995-2001
80-17 (82.4%)
47-6 (88.7%) Conference
2 National Championships
"Down years" in 1997, 1998, 1999

Montana 2006-2009
51-6 (89.5%)
31-1 (96.9%) Conference
0 National Championships
"Down year" in 2007 (1st round exit)

MSU 2021-2025
61-12 (83.6%)
37-3 (92.5%) Conference
1 National Championship
"Down year" in 2023
 
Skookum-Jim said:
What's laughable is not knowing that Div II in 1976 was equal to if not better than IAA. The team they beat was a Div I team, Div IA, a couple years later. ALL the teams from IAA and a lot of IA were Div II in 1976. It's the equivalent of saying the griz don't have a FCS NC because it was IAA back in the olden days.
it's also laughable that the Cats kicked the crap out of the griz in 1956 when they were NAIA national champions and the griz were Div I. The griz like to shit on their championship.
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Skookum-Jim said:
What's laughable is not knowing that Div II in 1976 was equal to if not better than IAA. The team they beat was a Div I team, Div IA, a couple years later. ALL the teams from IAA and a lot of IA were Div II in 1976. It's the equivalent of saying the griz don't have a FCS NC because it was IAA back in the olden days.
it's also laughable that the Cats kicked the crap out of the griz in 1956 when they were NAIA national champions and the griz were Div I. The griz like to shit on their championship.
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We don't shit on their two D1 NCs, although the recent one quite lucky and 41 years elapsed between them. When we talk about NAIA titles, it needs to be a Carroll discussion.
 
kemajic said:
We don't shit on their two D1 NCs, although the recent one quite lucky and 41 years elapsed between them. When we talk about NAIA titles, it needs to be a Carroll discussion.
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Still not sure how someone wins a game without scoring 1 point. Honestly they shoulda considered both teams losers.
 
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