5280Griz
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It depends what your parameters for great are. Beating #1 NDSU, top 10 EWU/SDSU and boat racing MSU so badly they fire their coach is pretty great. The losses were not so great.So 8-5 is great?
It depends what your parameters for great are. Beating #1 NDSU, top 10 EWU/SDSU and boat racing MSU so badly they fire their coach is pretty great. The losses were not so great.So 8-5 is great?
So your parameters are 8-5.It depends what your parameters for great are. Beating #1 NDSU, top 10 EWU/SDSU and boat racing MSU so badly they fire their coach is pretty great. The losses were not so great.
And blown out in the quarterfinals.So 8-5 is great?
So greatness is beating State?You asked when was the last time.
You're not following very well are you. We lost. Like i said, depends on the definition of greatness that you're afraid to state the parameters of yourself. Yes, for a brief moment in the 3rd quarter of the scat semifinals game, Montana was great, before completely falling apart. That was the last time they were great.So greatness is beating State?
You're not. All I am doing is gauging what others think is great. My read on you is that beating MSU is great, winning 13 games is not.You're not following very well are you. We lost. Like i said, depends on the definition of greatness that you're afraid to state the parameters of yourself. Yes, for a brief moment in the 3rd quarter of the scat semifinals game, Montana was great, before completely falling apart. That was the last time they were great.
Reading is fundamental and i think your skills are lacking. 13 wins is great but that was before we lost to the scats. You asked when the LAST time the Griz were great. Again, you're not following very well are you.You're not. All I am doing is gauging what others think is great. My read on you is that beating MSU is great, winning 13 games is not.
So did the Griz have a great season or not? You are the one over analyzing the question to a specific moment. My question was a general big picture.Reading is fundamental and i think your skills are lacking. 13 wins is great but that was before we lost to the scats. You asked when the LAST time the Griz were great. Again, you're not following very well are you.
I said further up that 2011 before the sanctions and lost scholarships is when I personally think the program was last great, but I can see an argument being made for being great more recently including 2015.So your parameters are 8-5.
No, the program itself was last great prior to 2011. Since then, this program has not been great. We've had "great teams" scattered through various seasons since then, but the program as a whole has not been great from the standard everyone expects or desires us to be.I said further up that 2011 before the sanctions and lost scholarships is when I personally think the program was last great, but I can see an argument being made for being great more recently including 2015.
I see no argument that would make 2015 great.I said further up that 2011 before the sanctions and lost scholarships is when I personally think the program was last great, but I can see an argument being made for being great more recently including 2015.
Everyone has a different opinion on what great is but I generally agree with you that the last time the program was great was before 2011. 2010 season we missed the playoffs so if you don’t want to include Pflu you have to go back to 2009. That is probably the correct answer because while we reached the semis in 2011, the sanctions that occurred that season led to scholarship loss which made it more difficult to be competitive.No, the program itself was last great prior to 2011. Since then, this program has not been great. We've had "great teams" scattered through various seasons since then, but the program as a whole has not been great from the standard everyone expects or desires us to be.
You obviously disagree but some people would consider boat racing our 2 biggest rivals at the time and beating a 4 time defending national champion on ESPN in front of the record attendance at the time at WaGriz to be a great season.I see no argument that would make 2015 great.
Ok, finally a little more clarity on your question. Yes, the griz were great this year. Unfortunately 2 times we had to play a scat squad that was greater. This doesn't take away from all the great things this team did this year for me. Have we been greater in the past? Yes, but we're still great. But if nattys are the only measuring stick of success for some fans then the Griz have been epic failures for 98.4% of the teams existence.So did the Griz have a great season or not? You are the one over analyzing the question to a specific moment. My question was a general big picture.
You obviously want me to believe that going 8-5 and getting drubbed in the playoffs by one of the same "biggest rivals" is great. In no world is that great.You obviously disagree but some people would consider boat racing our 2 biggest rivals at the time and beating a 4 time defending national champion on ESPN in front of the record attendance at the time at WaGriz to be a great season.
I don’t want you to believe that. I am saying people’s opinions of great differ and some people would place more emphasis on the highs and ignore the lows which would make 2015 appear to be better. The 2 rivals I was referring to were EWU and MSU. We never boat raced NDSU. The game here came down to the final 2 seconds and the game in Fargo we were boat raced as you alluded to.You obviously want me to believe that going 8-5 and getting drubbed in the playoffs by one of the same "biggest rivals" is great. In no world is that great.
I would think it difficult to find anyone that believes that 2015 was a great season.I don’t want you to believe that. I am saying people’s opinions of great differ and some people would place more emphasis on the highs and ignore the lows which would make 2015 appear to be better. The 2 rivals I was referring to were EWU and MSU. We never boat raced NDSU. The game here came down to the final 2 seconds and the game in Fargo we were boat raced as you alluded to.
They aren’t difficult to find if you talk to people who were involved with that team, albeit their opinions have personal bias.I would think it difficult to find anyone that believes that 2015 was a great season.
You are a great poster...They aren’t that difficult to find if you talk to people who were involved with that team, albeit their opinions have personal bias.
When do you think the program was last great?You are a great poster...