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Kyon Loud was offered $150k to go to Fresno. $300k from TCU
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alabamagrizzly
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That's probably a very grey area for most all teams and will be until we get a commish and a collective bargaining agreement
.As many guys from the P4 level that are foregoing the draft to stay in school because there is more money, it’s hard to believe the NFL hasn’t started to push in for control yet.That's probably a very grey area for most all teams and will be until we get a commish and a collective bargaining agreement
mthoopsfan
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It's almost never hitting the bank account, is my understanding.
I mean good for Kyon, but holy CRAP that seems like an expensive crapshoot for a guy who played 1 full season and was injured much of this year.
It's actually what makes his absence even sadder, for me.
He was our best defensive player, and the fact that he got those kind of offers really proves it. He's a phenomenal cornerback, and I doubt we'll get another corner on our team as good as he was in a while.
Although, the cats probably felt that way about Tommy Tudds, and then Lamson dropped in their lap lmao
oldrunner
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Weber lost 2 of their top corners as well, along with three of our best LBs. Coaching change probably has a lot to do with it, but the money from poachers is significant. We may well need collective bargaining and contracts that require buyouts for players picked up by FBS programs. If they are going to be paying 6 or 7 figures to get a transfer, they can afford to pay a percentage of that to the source school. The source school could use that extra money to train even more players for them in the future.
Cheapy Cheapskate. Donors are supposed to just give.
Oldskoolgriz
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There is NO PROOF, that's what Kyon was offered and I highly doubt he was offended that much. And even if he was by some miracle, I'm pretty sure none of it is guaranteed. I just hope his family was able to read the fine print that if he gets injured, he gets nothing. While these kids are getting paid, it's far from the NFL where players are protected if something were to happen to them. Don't get me wrong, I wish all the best for Kyon and his family and I hope it all works out for him.
My thoughts as well. "I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another" isn't exactly proof of anything... (And even if you heard it directly from the player's mouth, people exaggerate. A lot.) AND even in cases where the promises are real, that's no guarantee that the money is real. Ala Sac State and some other notable examples.
I hope Loud gets whatever he's promised, and I hope he's healthy enough to play all of next year. We're going to miss him.
That's probably a very grey area for most all teams and will be until we get a commish and a collective bargaining agreement
If you look at this from the school's point of view, they want to pump up the value of the contract as high as possible to attract the best player they can while at the same time keeping the cash outlay as low as possible. This ain't the NFL where they can spare no expense.
They're going to, if they haven't already, start including the value of the facilities, training staff, free use of a vehicle, equipment/apparel deals, etc. to include anything you can think of.
Also, the player will have to earn the money. Probably based on snaps or some other metric that can be measured. Nobody's going to pay him to ride the pine or to sit around injured.
So, in my judgment, if Loud signed a $300,000 deal he'd be lucky to see 1/4 of that in actual cash deposited into his bank account. Of the cash that is deposited, it will be in installments, or milestones reached, etc. This is why we hear reports about players not getting what they were promised.
grizzlygrumpa
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Where was Loud when Lamson hit Taco for 87 yd. Td on 3rd and 20?
I think we felt that way about Bergen and then Wortham dropped in our lap too
Oldskoolgriz
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Yes, we will definitely miss him and he was one of the most talented, if not the most talented defensive player we had. I hope he can stay healthy and more importantly win the starting job.
HelenaHandBasket
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Rizzing up your granddaughter?
SinCityGriz2005
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I agree with most of the posts. I think if a player is poached from another school, the receiving school should have to compensate the school the player is leaving. I am sure someone can figure out a formula that takes into consideration coaching time, one on one coaching time, time the training facility was used for mandatory training, use of the film rooms, locker rooms, a portion of the utilities, uniform expenses, travel expenses, repayment of scholarships, and probably more that I didn't just think of from the top of my head.
Issue each player a swipe card. Any time a player does ANYTHING school or team related, they swipe their card in and out. That way the data can be tracked, a dollar amount can be assigned for every activity and recouped from the school the player is transferring to. It doesn't have to be based on the players impact on the team. it would be like housing a prisoner in jail or prison. Every single thing is tracked. then a number is produced as to what the cost is per player per year.
In Montana it costs $64,000 a year to house a prisoner. So what would it cost for an athlete? I would say substantially more. Especially if they track every activity a player engages in. Say with everything included, it's an average of $150K a year.
I think more schools would second guess poaching players. I think it would be a fair system.
Issue each player a swipe card. Any time a player does ANYTHING school or team related, they swipe their card in and out. That way the data can be tracked, a dollar amount can be assigned for every activity and recouped from the school the player is transferring to. It doesn't have to be based on the players impact on the team. it would be like housing a prisoner in jail or prison. Every single thing is tracked. then a number is produced as to what the cost is per player per year.
In Montana it costs $64,000 a year to house a prisoner. So what would it cost for an athlete? I would say substantially more. Especially if they track every activity a player engages in. Say with everything included, it's an average of $150K a year.
I think more schools would second guess poaching players. I think it would be a fair system.
