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Utah Safety Jeilani Davis Commits

I'm glad we are where we are now, but this is the kind of effort I would have liked to have seen in years past where these opportunities have been available. It seems like there was pseudo portal denial for a while with a mentality of only using it if absolutely necessary, and now it seems like we've joined the party and are taking every advantage we can get. This is what it takes to compete in todays college football, whether you agree with it or not, you have to play the portal game to win.
The Griz were big on transfers in recent years too. This year every starter on D has to be replaced. This year the roster limit for opt-in schools is making more players available. I wonder where the scholarships are coming from. There have been top FCS teams that haven’t been big in the Portal.
 
The Griz were big on transfers in recent years too. This year every starter on D has to be replaced. This year the roster limit for opt-in schools is making more players available. I wonder where the scholarships are coming from. There have been top FCS teams that haven’t been big in the Portal.
I just think you take every advantage and play every card you are dealt. It seems like the staff/Bobby is leaning into the portal in a more significant way than in years past. I'm pretty confident they still don't like it in comparison to the "old days" but I'm glad to see them taking advantage. UM has a lot to sell to transfers that can't be matched by most of the FCS, and even some FBS schools.
 
1. From June 7 article last year. This is only Portal guys, and doesn't include JC or NAIA (I dont' recall if there were any last year):

"D1 Transfer Portal Movement​

Transfers Coming In From The FCS (4)
Pat Hayden (DL), Monmouth
Kade Cutler (DB), Montana State
Dayton Toney (WR), UIW
Andres Lehrmann (DL), Youngstown State

Transfers Coming In From The FBS (13)
Dane Parker (DB), Air Force
Stevie Rocker (RB), Arizona
Everett Johnson (OL), Cal
Cade Klimczak (OL), Central Michigan
Logan Fife (QB), Fresno State
Chrishawn Gordon (DB), Fresno State
Prince Ford (DB), Illinois
Johan Silver (K), Kent State
Tyson Simmons (DL), Navy
Vai Kaho (LB), San Diego State
Caleb Otlewski (LB), San Diego State
Kenzel Lawler (DB), Utah
Jacob Mason (DL), Washington"

2. From a 12/20/25 article. Since the article, more players departed or got hurt. Nuce, Klucewich, Otlewski, Rostad (?). The Griz had much of the D to replace, and certainly the starters. Isn't this now needing replace 152 out of 154 starts? That is unprecedented at UM. UM needed to replace a ton on D, and obviously bring in a ton of new D players.

"The Griz will no longer have 13 defensive players who combined for 136 starts out of a potential 154 (88.3%) in the 2024 season. They'll return six defensive players who combined for just 18 starts (11.7%) in the team's 14 games.
Gone are defensive linemen Hayden Harris (14 starts), Pat Hayden (13), Andres Lehrmann (seven) and Noah Kaschmitter (one); linebackers Ryan Tirrell (14), Vai Kaho (14), Riley Wilson (11) and Cooper Barnum (one); cornerbacks Trevin Gradney (14) and Ronald Jackson Jr. (14); and safeties Jaxon Lee (14), Ryder Meyer (11) and Chrishawn Gordon (eight).

Returners who started in 2024 are defensive end Hank Nuce (six starts), safety Jace Klucewich (six), linebacker Caleb Otlewski (two), safety Tyson Rostad (two), nose tackle Jareb Ramos (one) and safety TJ Rausch (one)."
 
Hitting the portal hard?? Get real. Literally nothing hard about it.

What’s hard and what takes effort is HS recruiting. That is where championship teams are built and will always be built. Take a look at NDSU. I guarantee you that staff goes much harder than UM when recruiting HS players and is far more selective with the transfers they bring into their program.
 
Hitting the portal hard?? Get real. Literally nothing hard about it.

What’s hard and what takes effort is HS recruiting. That is where championship teams are built and will always be built. Take a look at NDSU. I guarantee you that staff goes much harder than UM when recruiting HS players and is far more selective with the transfers they bring into their program.
This is a dinosaur way of thinking and any program living and dying with HS recruits will get left behind. Kids don't stay with a program for 5 years anymore. If they don't get playing time when they're young they portal down. If they become stars as underclassmen they portal up. Montana has been very lucky to keep guys like Bergen and Gillman but that's not going to be the case anymore. We also can't compete with P4 schools for 3 and 4 star recruits out of high school. A lot of those kids don't make it at that level and can find a home with the Griz. I guarantee we didn't even bother to recruit Jeilani Davis out of high school.

Rosters aren't going to be built up over 3-4 years like bobby 1.0. Getting 50% roster turnover year after year is the new normal in modern CFB.
 
I just think you take every advantage and play every card you are dealt. It seems like the staff/Bobby is leaning into the portal in a more significant way than in years past. I'm pretty confident they still don't like it in comparison to the "old days" but I'm glad to see them taking advantage. UM has a lot to sell to transfers that can't be matched by most of the FCS, and even some FBS schools.
I don’t disagree, and realize the portal is something good teams have to take advantage of, but…30 transfers in one off-season is a lot. Maybe I’m counting wrong, but that’s what I got from Payton’s list. Add in 17 HS players, and that’s almost 50 new players in one off-season. Basically half the roster. I think there were 25 seniors, 7 players transferred out…

I’m all for getting better talent, but it’s hard to say that this isn’t a sign of prior recruiting years not being up to standard. What other reason is there for replacing half the roster?
 
This is a dinosaur way of thinking and any program living and dying with HS recruits will get left behind. Kids don't stay with a program for 5 years anymore. If they don't get playing time when they're young they portal down. If they become stars as underclassmen they portal up. Montana has been very lucky to keep guys like Bergen and Gillman but that's not going to be the case anymore. We also can't compete with P4 schools for 3 and 4 star recruits out of high school. A lot of those kids don't make it at that level and can find a home with the Griz. I guarantee we didn't even bother to recruit Jeilani Davis out of high school.

Rosters aren't going to be built up over 3-4 years like bobby 1.0. Getting 50% roster turnover year after year is the new normal in modern CFB.
I don’t think anybody is saying not to recruit via the portal, but 50% turnover is certainly not the new normal. Rosters are being built up via multiple years of good HS recruiting. NDSU, SDSU, USD, and MSU are all seeing sustained results from HS recruiting. Why should UM be any different?
 
I don’t disagree, and realize the portal is something good teams have to take advantage of, but…30 transfers in one off-season is a lot. Maybe I’m counting wrong, but that’s what I got from Payton’s list. Add in 17 HS players, and that’s almost 50 new players in one off-season. Basically half the roster. I think there were 25 seniors, 7 players transferred out…

I’m all for getting better talent, but it’s hard to say that this isn’t a sign of prior recruiting years not being up to standard. What other reason is there for replacing half the roster?
If our prior recruiting years were not up to standard, would you prefer they change nothing, or pursue a ton of players to immediately remedy it?
 
This is a dinosaur way of thinking and any program living and dying with HS recruits will get left behind. Kids don't stay with a program for 5 years anymore. If they don't get playing time when they're young they portal down. If they become stars as underclassmen they portal up. Montana has been very lucky to keep guys like Bergen and Gillman but that's not going to be the case anymore. We also can't compete with P4 schools for 3 and 4 star recruits out of high school. A lot of those kids don't make it at that level and can find a home with the Griz. I guarantee we didn't even bother to recruit Jeilani Davis out of high school.

Rosters aren't going to be built up over 3-4 years like bobby 1.0. Getting 50% roster turnover year after year is the new normal in modern CFB.
Total nonsense.

“If they become stars as underclassmen they portal up.”

Oh no! What a horrible problem to have!

Championship programs have great culture that is built from the bottom up.
 
If our prior recruiting years were not up to standard, would you prefer they change nothing, or pursue a ton of players to immediately remedy it?
Absolutely the latter. No doubt. It’s still a concern though. I’m of the opinion that building via the portal can lead to short term success, but not often.
 
I don’t think anybody is saying not to recruit via the portal, but 50% turnover is certainly not the new normal. Rosters are being built up via multiple years of good HS recruiting. NDSU, SDSU, USD, and MSU are all seeing sustained results from HS recruiting. Why should UM be any different?
Bobcats have been getting sustained results because of their generational QB from Butte Montana. You could argue SDSU is the same. We'll see how they fare after the Mellott and Gronowski eras are done. It's tough to just assume they're going to find Payton award winners straight out of high school again. Also don't forget that Chambers was a dropdown from Wyoming. USD hasn't won anything.

NDSU is an outlier. They are the gold standard. They had a massive advantage in the amount offered by their scholarships up until the NIL era. The Griz cannot be expected to out recruit HS kids against NDSU. Hence why we need to hit the portal hard to compete.

Also lets not forget that UM beat NDSU in the playoffs with our mercenary dropdown QB.
 
Fck that. We should the best gawdamn HS recruiting class every gawdamn year at this level.

Unfortunately UM has weak-minded timid leaders at every level though.
Can you chew gum and walk at the same time? The Griz can recruit great HS talent and the transfer portal at the same time. It's not an either/or proposition, it's a both/and proposition. In addition, most of these transfers are not the one and done variety, they have 3 or 4 years of eligibility. So you bring them in like a HS recruit except they've already had one or two years to get used to college life and football, physically mature, and adjust to the speed of college football. Then, you get them into your program at the best time and teach them the Griz way.
 
Bobcats have been getting sustained results because of their generational QB from Butte Montana. You could argue SDSU is the same. We'll see how they fare after the Mellott and Gronowski eras are done. It's tough to just assume they're going to find Payton award winners straight out of high school again. Also don't forget that Chambers was a dropdown from Wyoming. USD hasn't won anything.

NDSU is an outlier. They are the gold standard. They had a massive advantage in the amount offered by their scholarships up until the NIL era. The Griz cannot be expected to out recruit HS kids against NDSU. Hence why we need to hit the portal hard to compete.

Also let’s not forget that UM beat NDSU in the playoffs with our mercenary dropdown QB.
Again, I’m not saying to eschew the portal. This isn’t an either/or situation.

My point is that NDSU, SDSU, USD, and MSU are all very good FCS teams whose recruiting priority is to get good HS players and develop them. They supplement with the portal.

My fear is that teams that prioritize filling a roster with transfer players rather than HS recruits will see more problems than not. All I’m saying is that adding 30 transfers is a sign of how the coaches view the returning talent on the team, and it’s clearly not very good. I’d just rather see 30 HS recruits and 17 transfers than the opposite, that’s all.
 
Again, I’m not saying to eschew the portal. This isn’t an either/or situation.

My point is that NDSU, SDSU, USD, and MSU are all very good FCS teams whose recruiting priority is to get good HS players and develop them. They supplement with the portal.

My fear is that teams that prioritize filling a roster with transfer players rather than HS recruits will see more problems than not. All I’m saying is that adding 30 transfers is a sign of how the coaches view the returning talent on the team, and it’s clearly not very good. I’d just rather see 30 HS recruits and 17 transfers than the opposite, that’s all.
Or maybe this is a one time opportunity for recruiting transfers since FBS schools need to limit rosters due to the House settlement which presents opportunities not seen before and, likely not to be seen again.
 
Again, I’m not saying to eschew the portal. This isn’t an either/or situation.

My point is that NDSU, SDSU, USD, and MSU are all very good FCS teams whose recruiting priority is to get good HS players and develop them. They supplement with the portal.

My fear is that teams that prioritize filling a roster with transfer players rather than HS recruits will see more problems than not. All I’m saying is that adding 30 transfers is a sign of how the coaches view the returning talent on the team, and it’s clearly not very good. I’d just rather see 30 HS recruits and 17 transfers than the opposite, that’s all.
I think of what Bobby himself has said on all of this the last few years. With the addition of the portal and how easy it is to transfer all over with no repercussions, he has said multiple times that the new name of the game is to build your very best, most competitive team each Fall. That gone are the days somewhat of a development program where you build and build. Now it’s get the best team you can possibly get for 2025 and start all over in 2026. None of us love it (including him) but he’s not wrong in my opinion.
 
I think of what Bobby himself has said on all of this the last few years. With the addition of the portal and how easy it is to transfer all over with no repercussions, he has said multiple times that the new name of the game is to build your very best, most competitive team each Fall. That gone are the days somewhat of a development program where you build and build. Now it’s get the best team you can possibly get for 2025 and start all over in 2026. None of us love it (including him) but he’s not wrong in my opinion.
How many teams in the FCS that have reached the national championship in the last few years have operated under that system? 1?
 
Or maybe this is a one time opportunity for recruiting transfers since FBS schools need to limit rosters due to the House settlement which presents opportunities not seen before and, likely not to be seen again.
Perhaps. I hope so!

I still think it’s a valid concern worth discussing though.
 
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