alabamagrizzly
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They are in Kalamazoo and their stadium is named Waldo. How fun is that!!?
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Pawlak?
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billingsgriz
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Like I told 406, OG, while I have been to Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids, I am far from an expert on Western Michigan University and their football program. What I do know Is we both recruit a lot of 3 star athletes --we are recruiting comparable student-athletes, though in different regions of the country. We are not competing for 4 or 5 star kids with Oregon or Washington and WMU isn't competing for those kids with their home-state flagship Michigan Wolverines.
Coach Pawlak probably did receive a nice pay raise, so good for him !!!
Hopefully our next O line coach is from The Pacific NW or even better yet, a former GRIZ O lineman, we have him in place within the next 7-10 days, and we can pay him and the rest of our hard-working, dedicated coaching staff a little better.
mthoopsfan
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Asst coaches, not coordinators or more, had salaries between $65,000 to $120,000 in 2024. The 3 lowest were 60, 70 and 80. Plus small bonuses. Head coach has salary of $850,000 in 2023. At WM.
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garizzalies
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Mick Belker
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I'm a dog guy. 
Jordan_20
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I hope that they give the guy making 26k a year a little bit of a raise.
mthoopsfan
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He just got raise to 60.
Mick Belker
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What breed? Looks inquisitive.
With neither side announcing it, perhaps he is just going through their hiring process and nobody can publicly talk about it, so the students wouldn't know he is headed out. He may still be actively recruiting for us while he is still employed.
oldngrizzly
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That dog looks more intelligent that the original poster. It would not take make so I am sure he is.
Oh the irony of a nonsensical sentence when mocking ANOTHER poster's intelligence.
garizzalies
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I would guess the most likely answer is that it just hasn't been announced that he is leaving, so the kids are still tagging him.
We definitely need more dog vids on egriz. A new favorite trend.
701Grizfan
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We still sure he is leaving? I have no idea it’s odd to me nothing public given spring ball has started at UM and WM.
Mich Griz
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WMU has a solid program. Their enrollment is around 12K. It was as high as 22-25k. They added a Med school a few years back. (Where's) Waldo stadium holds around 30k and they average about 16K at home.
Being in the MAC means they play a lot of Wed and Thur, night games for the TV revenue. Those are the games where there are 3,000 people in the stands and the ESPN cameras focus on the band in order to make it look like there is actually people at the game.
(I don't like that the Griz are playing on Fri. That is traditionally a HS FB night but that's another story.... It could hurt support from Local HS coaches....we'll see)
When PJ Fleck was at WMU (remember Row the Boat?....he's now at Minn), he said we would confine his recruiting to within 100 miles of Kalamazoo so that the players families would be better able to see their kids’ games. That was very reasonable because WMU is within 100 miles of Chicago, Grand Rapids MI, Indianapolis, Gary and Milwaukee (as the seagull flies). He had a 12-1 season his last year at WMU. He made a similar commitment when he got to Minnesota. At that time Minnesota was recruiting Florida, Texas and all the usual Southern states. They were ignoring the Minneapolis / St Paul area, and as a result SD and ND were feasting on Big Ten caliber talent while the Gophers searched for unicorns from the south. Flecks impact on the Dakota schools is being felt now after his 4th year. The MAC brings in a lot of TV revenue from their midweek games that no one attends.
They play a lot of high income out of conference games against Big Ten and ACC teams. They have good NIL money and their coaches are well compensated. For a player I wouldn’t want to play on Wed or Thursday in front of a Ghost crowd.
This will be a financial step up for Pawlak and possibly a step up for his career like Choate going to Texas and then Nevada. Pawlak move is understandable
Being in the MAC means they play a lot of Wed and Thur, night games for the TV revenue. Those are the games where there are 3,000 people in the stands and the ESPN cameras focus on the band in order to make it look like there is actually people at the game.
(I don't like that the Griz are playing on Fri. That is traditionally a HS FB night but that's another story.... It could hurt support from Local HS coaches....we'll see)
When PJ Fleck was at WMU (remember Row the Boat?....he's now at Minn), he said we would confine his recruiting to within 100 miles of Kalamazoo so that the players families would be better able to see their kids’ games. That was very reasonable because WMU is within 100 miles of Chicago, Grand Rapids MI, Indianapolis, Gary and Milwaukee (as the seagull flies). He had a 12-1 season his last year at WMU. He made a similar commitment when he got to Minnesota. At that time Minnesota was recruiting Florida, Texas and all the usual Southern states. They were ignoring the Minneapolis / St Paul area, and as a result SD and ND were feasting on Big Ten caliber talent while the Gophers searched for unicorns from the south. Flecks impact on the Dakota schools is being felt now after his 4th year. The MAC brings in a lot of TV revenue from their midweek games that no one attends.
They play a lot of high income out of conference games against Big Ten and ACC teams. They have good NIL money and their coaches are well compensated. For a player I wouldn’t want to play on Wed or Thursday in front of a Ghost crowd.
This will be a financial step up for Pawlak and possibly a step up for his career like Choate going to Texas and then Nevada. Pawlak move is understandable
Mich Griz
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BTW Grand Valley has an enrollment of around 30k and plays Div II. Their big rival is Ferris State. Frenchtown has better facilities then Ferris. Ferris spends a lot of money supporting their Div I hockey program. As we found out Ferris is the real deal. So is Grand Valley https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2023/8/3/Facilities.aspx
