Frank Gogola Article

[mthoopsfan]

No I was not a bench warmer I played almost every down for 3 years. I did only play about a third of the plays as a freshman.
You can certainly puff out your chest and tell me that coaching junior high is not cutting it. I whole heartedly agree. I stated that I played in the early 2000’s and coached until 2012 in The Big Ten.
After a becoming a father I have pursued other opportunities and then I did help with my son’s team in Junior High and his first years of high school. You tell many a poster that they don’t know the game.
I have stated that the game has and is constantly evolving/changing.
Congrats on that 3 of your kids were able to play college athletics. Furthermore that two of your kids were able to play college football.
I don’t think I stated that you know nothing about the game of football. I have stated that maybe or probably there are people that do more than you do about the game of football.

Your current Griz coach has been very successful in the FCS. What was his record when he coached in the FBS? From what I have found he was 15-49, for a winning % of .234 with the lower level of the big conferences. He does have a very respectable even remarkable winning percentage in the FCS at .771.

I joined this board not too argue with an obvious fan of Griz football, but to see what the Minnesota boy, Gilman, was going to do going forward. I think that it is great in the current state of college football that he is going to stay at Montana.

I also think that if he does have aspirations of playing in the NFL that he may need to transfer for his senior season. His numbers against the better defensive teams in the FCS are not very good, especially when you remove the game against Tennessee State.

Everyone on this board knows that you like to cherry pick statistics and you will continue to do so moving forward.

You also have not refuted the fact that you don’t have any evidence that one single person would ever cross a room to piss on you if you were on fire.

Like I said, you don’t know much about Griz football. I have never claimed to be some big expert on football. I don’t care to be and don’t need to be. I get most of my info from coaches (current and former), former players, some current players, current and former parents, and various other knowledgeable people. I rarely say something about the team without knowing or being quite confident that what I am saying is correct. I had assumed you were not connected to the program but might be following Gillman. About a year ago, I told Green how much the family wanted to have Monte to have the opportunity to play at UM with his brother. A few last things, I don’t need to be a big football expert to know more about football and the Griz than all but a dozen or so people posting regularly on the board. I support the team and the players. Prior head coaches have thanked me in the past for the internet support. Assistant coaches have occasionally asked me about egriz things or to correct something or put something out there. I will try to be more careful with you, and you might consider the same with me. As I have said on the board, I have lots of Minneapolis connections. I once lived there. I was a longtime partner at one of the 2 biggest Minneapolis law firms for decades, am good friends with former Viking Ed Marinaro, and am good friends with Brian O’Neill of the Vikes. His dad is one of my best friends. Have been to 2 Suoer Bowls in Minneapolis. I like Minnesota. One of my former law partners played for the Golden Gophers. Loved his stories.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I’m just going to paraphrase your probable response.
“You still have not proven that you no anything about football. I am so damn important within the Griz football community that if my good friend Denny would have not given the money for the stadium myself and my boys would have had the stadium named after us. You know nothing about Griz football.”

My response,
“I do lack knowledge about Griz football compared to yourself, I apologize for thinking that someone who has actually coached college football would know more than someone who is in their 70’s and has never coached football at any level.

The following is without sarcasm:
Gilman has a great chance to establish huge numbers next season as the Griz football team plays 8 home games and they only play two FCS opponents in total that had winning records in the 2024 season. If his production against your rivals and into the playoffs still lacks his usual output I hope he transfers for his senior year. If he has any desire to play on Sundays he will need to be able to perform when he plays against his best opponents.

I don’t think I will ever post on this board again, I wish nothing but success for Gilman and the Griz football team.

A poster/person who always thinks they know more than anyone else is a deterrent.

Merry Christmas to the Griz family and football team.

I just saw this post of yours. See my last one. You missed the mark with yours. Your last post shows I was probably right on the type of person you are.

 

[MNFan]

I just saw this post of yours. See my last one. You missed the mark with yours. Your last post shows I was probably right on the type of person you are.

I can certainly respect you and your opinions.
I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on the fact about you stating that you are a football expert.
Regardless of my thoughts or views on your statements, I do wish you and your Griz team future success.
Myself, I am just a single individual that loves college football.
Kindest regards

 

[mthoopsfan]

I can certainly respect you and your opinions.
I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on the fact about you stating that you are a football expert.
Regardless of my thoughts or views on your statements, I do wish you and your Griz team future success.
Myself, I am just a single individual that loves college football.
Kindest regards

I have never said I was a football expert, but I get most of my football info from knowledgeable people and experts. It’s that you keep repeating that despite there being no support for your statement. In life, I have always listened to and relied on a “team”. That usually gets a better result than thinking oneself is the expert. It looks liked I have rubbed you the wrong way and hurt your feelings.

 

[oldngrizzly]

I’m just going to paraphrase your probable response.
“You still have not proven that you no anything about football. I am so damn important within the Griz football community that if my good friend Denny would have not given the money for the stadium myself and my boys would have had the stadium named after us. You know nothing about Griz football.”

My response,
“I do lack knowledge about Griz football compared to yourself, I apologize for thinking that someone who has actually coached college football would know more than someone who is in their 70’s and has never coached football at any level.

The following is without sarcasm:
Gilman has a great chance to establish huge numbers next season as the Griz football team plays 8 home games and they only play two FCS opponents in total that had winning records in the 2024 season. If his production against your rivals and into the playoffs still lacks his usual output I hope he transfers for his senior year. If he has any desire to play on Sundays he will need to be able to perform when he plays against his best opponents.

I don’t think I will ever post on this board again, I wish nothing but success for Gilman and the Griz football team.

A poster/person who always thinks they know more than anyone else is a deterrent.

Merry Christmas to the Griz family and football team.

Welcome to the board. It's unfortunate we have a FEW posters that ruin it for the majority. Not sure why they feel compelled to do that ? Mostly ego I would guess. That being said the Griz used to be able to produce players that were drafted to the NFL on a regular basis. Now we cannot retain or recruit the talent needed to do so. That in itself has lead to a lot of upset fans because the GRIZ are not as relevant as they used to be.
Gillman has excellent talent but unfortunately he did not receive much help from our o-line or QB's this past season. It's becoming more apparent every year that if you want to go pro from the GRIZ you will likely have to transfer your senior season.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Welcome to the board. It's unfortunate we have a FEW posters that ruin it for the majority. Not sure why they feel compelled to do that ? Mostly ego I would guess. That being said the Griz used to be able to produce players that were drafted to the NFL on a regular basis. Now we cannot retain or recruit the talent needed to do so. That in itself has lead to a lot of upset fans because the GRIZ are not as relevant as they used to be.
Gillman has excellent talent but unfortunately he did not receive much help from our o-line or QB's this past season. It's becoming more apparent every year that if you want to go pro from the GRIZ you will likely have to transfer your senior season.

My direct posts go towards Cat trolls and less than a dozen bad posters and bad fans like yourself, most of whom come at me first. The board would be better without posters like you. Recently, a lot of posters have come at you. Perhaps you don’t realize how your negativity is viewed by many and hurts the program. Bellechik and Herbstreit are talking about people like you.

 

[indiancoyote]

My direct posts go towards Cat trolls and less than a dozen bad posters and bad fans like yourself, most of whom come at me first. The board would be better without posters like you. Recently, a lot of posters have come at you. Perhaps you don’t realize how your negativity is viewed by many and hurts the program. Bellechik and Herbstreit are talking about people like you.

You hurt the program by promoting false stories.

 

[poorgriz]

Actually, everyone who makes a lot cares, and enjoys it. Women care. Why do you think guys with big wallets often have good-looking women with them. It's a sign of success. It's also nice. People like you are just jealous. College athletic department and colleges sure care about how much money people make and have. Politicians care. Accounting and law firms care. Players hoping to get NIL money care. What a dumb comment by you.

 

[poorgriz]

And I love how you make an assumption that I don't make or have a lot of money. That is some extreme arrogance right there. lol

 

[mthoopsfan]

You hurt the program by promoting false stories.

Have never posted false stories. Name them, or STFU. How do you rate about the incorrect info, or outright lies, that you post? How many in the last day or so?

 

[mthoopsfan]

And I love how you make an assumption that I don't make or have a lot of money. That is some extreme arrogance right there. lol

What do you think is a lot of money? You and I probably don't agree what a lot of money is. Saying someone on the internet doesn't make a lot of money has nothing to do with arrogance. It's just a jab at a bigmouth poster.

 

[MNFan]

I have never said I was a football expert, but I get most of my football info from knowledgeable people and experts. It’s that you keep repeating that despite there being no support for your statement. In life, I have always listened to and relied on a “team”. That usually gets a better result than thinking oneself is the expert. It looks liked I have rubbed you the wrong way and hurt your

 

[MNFan]

These are the words that you wrote earlier,
“You could not bury me on anything. Especially related to football.”. Then you back tracked saying you were not an expert in football.
I will give you credit as you never paint yourself into a corner. When have I ever stated that I was an expert, please show me where.

I did state that, in different words, that I think I know more about the game than you.

Yes you most certainly have earned more in your 70 years than I have earned in my 40 years of life, I am also considering inflation.

I look forward to reading how you spin this towards your view.

I still have not seen a post on this subject of someone that is going to stick up for you, and I have asked a few times would anyone ever want to walk across a room to piss on you if you were on fire. Am I wrong, because almost everyone here doesn’t think of you as highly as you do of yourself.

 

[mthoopsfan]

These are the words that you wrote earlier,
“You could not bury me on anything. Especially related to football.”. Then you back tracked saying you were not an expert in football.
I will give you credit as you never paint yourself into a corner. When have I ever stated that I was an expert, please show me where.

I did state that, in different words, that I think I know more about the game than you.

Yes you most certainly have earned more in your 70 years than I have earned in my 40 years of life, I am also considering inflation.

I look forward to reading how you spin this towards your view.

I still have not seen a post on this subject of someone that is going to stick up for you, and I have asked a few times would anyone ever want to walk across a room to piss on you if you were on fire. Am I wrong, because almost everyone here doesn’t think of you as highly as you do of yourself.

You obviously didn’t get a good education and don’t read or comprehend well. Saying you couldn’t bury me in anything especially football isn’t saying I am a football expert. It is saying you can’t bury me. It is both a comment on what I think of what you have shown in your posts and what I have.

I have lots of friends on the board. They know I can take care of myself and they don’t need to get involved. Other than from a couple of the worst posters on the board, I don’t see you getting much support. And any support you may get from bad posters shows ore both yourself than me.

You can step back and not tangle with me or you can continue this way. Makes no difference to me. But if you want to tangle, and using your words, I will bury you. I’ve been on the Griz boards for 25 years and gotten pretty good at it.

 

[MNFan]

You obviously didn’t get a good education and don’t read or comprehend well. Saying you couldn’t bury me in anything especially football isn’t saying I am a football expert. It is saying you can’t bury me. It is both a comment on what I think of what you have shown in your posts and what I have.

I have lots of friends on the board. They know I can take of myself and they don’t need to get involved. Other than from a couple of the worst posters on the board, I don’t see you getting much support. And any support you may get from bad posters shows ore both yourself than me.

You can step back and not tangle with me or you can continue this way. Makes no difference to me. But if you want to tangle, and using your words, I will bury you. I’ve been on the Griz boards for 25 years and gotten pretty good at it.

“They know I can take of myself and they don’t need to get involved.”

Yeah, your sentence structure above shows everyone that you are an expert in grammar as well as football.

I still have not seen any evidence of someone jumping in to say that you are as great of a person as you profess.

 

[MNFan]

“They know I can take of myself and they don’t need to get involved.”

Yeah, your sentence structure above shows everyone that you are an expert in grammar as well as football.

I still have not seen any evidence of someone jumping in to say that you are as great of a person as you profess.

You may have 3 sons, but they must not be in your life anymore as all you do is post on a forum about an FCS team. Ask most college football fans who played in the FCS National Championship game last season and they would probably guess NDSU and another team.

You did get one thing correct. After this exchange of messages I will leave you alone so you can try and belittle and spin your words on someone else.

I do feel sorry for you as it appears that you are lonely old man that lashes out at anybody who has a different opinion.

That is probably the reason that your family doesn’t speak with you anymore.

 

[MontanaBornFan]

“They know I can take of myself and they don’t need to get involved.”

Yeah, your sentence structure above shows everyone that you are an expert in grammar as well as football.

I still have not seen any evidence of someone jumping in to say that you are as great of a person as you profess.

You are arguing with an online persona that is a self-described caricature and his posts are part of an act (also his description) he does here to boost his fragile ego.

He does have his troops of supporters that only throw insults and other ad hominem attacks at you instead of actually discussing the point.

You can engage with him all you want, but he is not a serious poster worth your time, IMO.

The truth is the article that the thread refers to makes a good case for the degree of separation between the two programs in Montana during Bobby’s second tenure, although Elrod has provided some rebuttal analysis that is pretty good as well. I think next season will help provide good data for analysis going forward.

 

[mthoopsfan]

“They know I can take of myself and they don’t need to get involved.”

Yeah, your sentence structure above shows everyone that you are an expert in grammar as well as football.

I still have not seen any evidence of someone jumping in to say that you are as great of a person as you profess.

Okay, war on, if that's what you want. You will get buried, again using your words. No one needs to defend me. And no good poster will defend you.

Your first post was a long one directed at me. Almost all of your posts have been directed at me. You clearly have/had an agenda. I see that the first response to your very first post, by a good egriz poster, was: "Lame". That's a good description of your posting.

I wonder what the football office thinks, or will think, of posts coming a good friend of the Gillmans. You might want to be careful what you say.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You may have 3 sons, but they must not be in your life anymore as all you do is post on a forum about an FCS team. Ask most college football fans who played in the FCS National Championship game last season and they would probably guess NDSU and another team.

You did get one thing correct. After this exchange of messages I will leave you alone so you can try and belittle and spin your words on someone else.

I do feel sorry for you as it appears that you are lonely old man that lashes out at anybody who has a different opinion.

That is probably the reason that your family doesn’t speak with you anymore.

Two of my sons had Xmas dinner with us tonight, and we did a FaceTime with the other son. I am not lonely at all. Have a great wife and a great family and zillions of friends. You are the lonely guy, with no friends and no confidence. I can tell you are a loser. I hurt your feelings, and now you are a cry baby.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You are arguing with an online persona that is a self-described caricature and his posts are part of an act (also his description) he does here to boost his fragile ego.

He does have his troops of supporters that only throw insults and other ad hominem attacks at you instead of actually discussing the point.

You can engage with him all you want, but he is not a serious poster worth your time, IMO.

The truth is the article that the thread refers to makes a good case for the degree of separation between the two programs in Montana during Bobby’s second tenure, although Elrod has provided some rebuttal analysis that is pretty good as well. I think next season will help provide good data for analysis going forward.

Fragile ego? Good joke.