HelenaHandBasket
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Probably not to dissimilar to Fife's in the comparable games.
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About what Fife was averaging against worse defenses, so what does it matter?
And again, I already showed that he scored on their starters and rotational guys.
He scored when they went prevent and were up 35-3. Who fucking cares? Where were those TD’s in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd quarters when they mattered?
Ut-Grizfan
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If you take out the context of being down 35-3 halfway through the 4th quarter with almost half the defense not made up of starters who were coasting....
Does prevent defense include letting a guy get behind your best cover CB on a go route? Do you know what prevent defense is?
HelenaHandBasket
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Forgot that UT is the same guy that thinks Montana running a triple-option/wing T would be a good idea.
Sounds different from "a bunch of 2's and 3's", though, no?
The fans see the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the hundreds of hours that staff interact with players. Is it fair or unfair the way Logan Fife was treated? It probably depends on the eye of the beholder. As once removed fans we will never know.
Ut-Grizfan
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Yes and no, not completely wrong to say as around half the defense were backups. Still my info was from bunny fans so I do appreciate the clarifying analysis you did. That being said doesn't change the fact padding your stats in garbage time doesn't negate your performance for the 1st 3 and a half quarters
He hit a receiver on a deep pass who beat his man against a good CB in the face of pressure.
We had several plays against MSU where that happened, and Logan didn't hit our guy.
This is what I'm talking about.
Ut-Grizfan
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AhYat is a much better runner then passer, dangerous especially in open space. Gilman, Fonoti and Rocker are great Running backs and our Offensive line has had issues with blocking. Bobby loves to control the clock and run the ball grinding down defenses.
Seems to me an offense like that would play to our strengths and help negate certain weaknesses, but hey if it works for the service Academies vs FBS competition it definitely won't work for anyone else
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I was looking at the depth chart for the early season Incarnate Word game! I also thought the bottom CB was #2, but it's #22, who is a starter.
Here's the updated picture on the Racanelli TD with the starters that were listed for the Montana game lmao
I was looking at the depth chart for the early season Incarnate Word game! I also thought the bottom CB was #2, but it's #22, who is a starter.
Here's the updated picture on the Racanelli TD with the starters that were listed for the Montana game lmao
It works for the service academies because their lineman are all 50 lbs lighter and they all have ACT scores above 30. Like Cal Poly a few years ago. Super smart kids and it gives people trouble at times but you don't beat the really good teams with it and it is hard to recruit kids to run it. Ah Yat can throw it. He is just young and forces things. But I would like to see them run more things next year that highlight his strengths which includes moving the pocket and giving him more options to run.
HelenaHandBasket
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Those teams that don't beat the actual good teams.AhYat is a much better runner then passer, dangerous especially in open space. Gilman, Fonoti and Rocker are great Running backs and our Offensive line has had issues with blocking. Bobby loves to control the clock and run the ball grinding down defenses.
Seems to me an offense like that would play to our strengths and help negate certain weaknesses, but hey if it works for the service Academies vs FBS competition it definitely won't work for anyone else
Ut-Grizfan
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Army actually has a few O-Linemen that are over 300lbs, all the Academies are allowed to have them now. Believe it's a waiver they are allowed to be that heavy while playing and they have to do what they need to in order make height and weight when they get to their duty station.
Ut-Grizfan
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Navy beat Top 25 Memphis this season, Army literally won the AAC their first year in the Conference running it.
HelenaHandBasket
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How many actual championship type teams? I mean, that is the ultimate goal for the Griz, and I think it is pretty obvious that you don't beat the best teams running a triple option type offense.
This is some funny arguments
Biggest thing o-line was not good enough for any qb down the stretch and also like HHB has said I'm not sure either qb is the guy
Both had some highs but lots of lows but was that due to the o-line? I'd say it was o-line mostly but both were pretty easy to read and figure out for a defense especially when the running game went to poop against good d-lines
Not saying ah yat has a chance to move forward, dang he was redshirt freshman, lots of time to get it all figured out
Overall weather either of them started all season we most likely lose at this same spot in the playoffs, it's just what the team was
Biggest thing o-line was not good enough for any qb down the stretch and also like HHB has said I'm not sure either qb is the guy
Both had some highs but lots of lows but was that due to the o-line? I'd say it was o-line mostly but both were pretty easy to read and figure out for a defense especially when the running game went to poop against good d-lines
Not saying ah yat has a chance to move forward, dang he was redshirt freshman, lots of time to get it all figured out
Overall weather either of them started all season we most likely lose at this same spot in the playoffs, it's just what the team was
Ut-Grizfan
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Completely different scenarios when trying to compare FBS and FCS, especially when taking the Finances of schools into account so they're not comparable. Georgia Tech was able to win an Orange Bowl before the playoffs became a thing and the offense was modernized.
HelenaHandBasket
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So how many FCS teams then?
