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Changes Needed at the Top?

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In the corporate world when a CEO fails to deliver profits or ROI he/she looses the support of their board members. Case in point when Boeing Corporation faced the recent disastrous events of airframe failures coupled with inferior or late to market new products they proceeded to “fall on their sword” as the saying goes. Make no mistake the BOD had a a great deal of input in that decision. Anyone one who buys a ticket to a Grizzly sporting event is automatically a stock holder. Maybe it’s time for a stockholder revolt?
One need only look at the success of Leon Costello, the AD at our sister institution down the road. True, he has the benefit of 16,000 student athletic fees vs. our 10,000+but what MSU has accomplished not just with student fees but large private donations is remarkable. It goes far beyond just building brick and mortar but creating an environment that breeds success. Have the Griz lost our expectations for dominance or settled for mediocrity? Quite possibly the real answer is complacency that has festered itself into the halls of the athletic department? Yesterday’s performance on the football field was a prime example of not being just outplayed but out recruited. We’re not as big, as fast or as mean as our competitors. Hell, yesterday two of the star bobcat football players WERE FROM MISSOULA! Think I read where 8 of the top ten in state football recruits have chosen to attend MSU. If true that is a comdenation of our football staff. I just watched the Lady Griz basketball team get manhandled by the Minnesota women’s team by 39, that’s right 39 points. I won’t go deep into the women’s instate recruiting but we just cannot seem to get the blue chip women to come to the U. If I remember correctly last year’s women’s softball team won 2 league games. Should we have seen that coming? The previous years teams did not fare much better.
It’s easy to create scapegoats like the BOR or low student populations or legislature’s failure to provide adequate funding but just like the Boeing CEO who fell on his sword maybe it’s time to wield that sword in the athletic department?
 
I just watched the Lady Griz basketball team get manhandled by the Minnesota women’s team by 39, that’s right 39 points. I won’t go deep into the women’s instate recruiting but we just cannot seem to get the blue chip women to come to the U.
I quit here. In-state blue chip players don't go to BSC schools. You really think 39 to a Big Ten school is surprising?
 
In the corporate world when a CEO fails to deliver profits or ROI he/she looses the support of their board members. Case in point when Boeing Corporation faced the recent disastrous events of airframe failures coupled with inferior or late to market new products they proceeded to “fall on their sword” as the saying goes. Make no mistake the BOD had a a great deal of input in that decision. Anyone one who buys a ticket to a Grizzly sporting event is automatically a stock holder. Maybe it’s time for a stockholder revolt?
One need only look at the success of Leon Costello, the AD at our sister institution down the road. True, he has the benefit of 16,000 student athletic fees vs. our 10,000+but what MSU has accomplished not just with student fees but large private donations is remarkable. It goes far beyond just building brick and mortar but creating an environment that breeds success. Have the Griz lost our expectations for dominance or settled for mediocrity? Quite possibly the real answer is complacency that has festered itself into the halls of the athletic department? Yesterday’s performance on the football field was a prime example of not being just outplayed but out recruited. We’re not as big, as fast or as mean as our competitors. Hell, yesterday two of the star bobcat football players WERE FROM MISSOULA! Think I read where 8 of the top ten in state football recruits have chosen to attend MSU. If true that is a comdenation of our football staff. I just watched the Lady Griz basketball team get manhandled by the Minnesota women’s team by 39, that’s right 39 points. I won’t go deep into the women’s instate recruiting but we just cannot seem to get the blue chip women to come to the U. If I remember correctly last year’s women’s softball team won 2 league games. Should we have seen that coming? The previous years teams did not fare much better.
It’s easy to create scapegoats like the BOR or low student populations or legislature’s failure to provide adequate funding but just like the Boeing CEO who fell on his sword maybe it’s time to wield that sword in the athletic department?
Small stockholders are not the board and have zero input into corporations. No corporation fires a CEO who took the company to the top the year before. Boeing has been going down for many years.
 
There are areas of concern, however, we should look at Bobby’s overall record at UM which is outstanding. He is a wise football coach who will right the ship.
No where in my post did I suggest Bobby should be fired.
 
the loss of good athletes (even from our own backyard) to msu is largely due to ACADEMICS
(Zac Crews notwithstanding, he was black balled) Blame Bodnar for doing nothing to better the University, he delivers pizza to the student section, thats about it near as I can tell
 
Small stockholders are not the board and have zero input into corporations. No corporation fires a CEO who took the company to the top the year before. Boeing has been going down for many years.
Your reading comprehension needs work.
 
...that being said I know for a fact there was more than one msu football team member playing with a personal chip on their shoulder against bobby and the UM coaches for not recruiting them, or not caring enough to recruit them more. Meanwhile Vigen and staff made them and their families feel wanted and welcome. Bobby is failing in this regard and its nothing new, only difference is in the past kids would come to UM anyway, theyre not doing that anymore.
 
the loss of good athletes (even from our own backyard) to msu is largely due to ACADEMICS
(Zac Crews notwithstanding, he was black balled) Blame Bodnar for doing nothing to better the University, he delivers pizza to the student section, thats about it near as I can tell
Who said anything about Bodner?
 
Who said anything about Bodner?
The title of the thread is "Changes Needed at the Top"
He's the top last I checked and Cruzado on the other side made a real difference for both her university and its athletics. I see seth bodnar doing nothing
 
....one example, when asked why so many of his kids chose msu over UM recently Sentinel coach Dane Oliver said its academics, kids want to be engineers
I dont recall which media outlet I read this on and that isnt an exact quote but its really close

Another example, a large part of my own family has switched their lifelong allegiances from Montana to bozeman after their son chose msu over um because bobby and co. just didnt care and Vegan and co. showed them that they were welcome and wanted. We're talking about a top 5-10 in state recruit here and after many camps and visits and a desire to play for his childhood team bobby was very cold and uninterested.
I cant blame my family for choosing msu. I would send my kids where they are wanted too
And reports from his time over in bozeman are that he is not alone. Many wanted to play here but either felt unwanted or felt theyd get a useful degree over in bozeman
 
....one example, when asked why so many of his kids chose msu over UM recently Sentinel coach Dane Oliver said its academics, kids want to be engineers
I dont recall which media outlet I read this on and that isnt an exact quote but its really close

Another example, a large part of my own family has switched their lifelong allegiances from Montana to bozeman after their son chose msu over um because bobby and co. just didnt care and Vegan and co. showed them that they were welcome and wanted. We're talking about a top 5-10 in state recruit here and after many camps and visits and a desire to play for his childhood team bobby was very cold and uninterested.
I cant blame my family for choosing msu. I would send my kids where they are wanted too
And reports from his time over in bozeman are that he is not alone. Many wanted to play here but either felt unwanted or felt theyd get a useful degree over in bozeman
Hyperbole and speculation at best
 
the loss of good athletes (even from our own backyard) to msu is largely due to ACADEMICS
(Zac Crews notwithstanding, he was black balled) Blame Bodnar for doing nothing to better the University, he delivers pizza to the student section, thats about it near as I can tell
Academics🤣 Only one of the 5 Spartans in Bozeman is majoring in engineering, the others are business and education majors….programs offered at UM. Rollins is a cat legacy who was never going to be a Griz, and Crews stupidity led to him losing his dream to play for UM.

Since Bodnar took over, enrollment is up, UM attained R1 status, research spending is at an all time high, the largest campus infrastructure upgrade in UM history is taking place, another UM student was awarded the Rhodes Scholarship, and as of 2024 the pre-med program has the highest medical school acceptance rate in the state at 74% (the national average is 41%). Bodnar has done an amazing job, especially when you take into account the disaster he inherited from Engstrom.
 
Academics🤣 Only one of the 5 Spartans in Bozeman is majoring in engineering, the others are business and education majors….programs offered at UM. Rollins is a cat legacy who was never going to be a Griz, and Crews stupidity led to him losing his dream to play for UM.

Since Bodnar took over, enrollment is up, UM attained R1 status, research spending is at an all time high, the largest campus infrastructure upgrade in UM history is taking place, another UM student was awarded the Rhodes Scholarship, and as of 2024 the pre-med program has the highest medical school acceptance rate in the state at 74% (the national average is 41%). Bodnar has done an amazing job, especially when you take into account the disaster he inherited from Engstrom.
Lack of reading comprehension is astounding. If any of the nutjobs thinking Changes Needed at the Top truly need to re-read the post. S
 
....one example, when asked why so many of his kids chose msu over UM recently Sentinel coach Dane Oliver said its academics, kids want to be engineers
I dont recall which media outlet I read this on and that isnt an exact quote but its really close

Another example, a large part of my own family has switched their lifelong allegiances from Montana to bozeman after their son chose msu over um because bobby and co. just didnt care and Vegan and co. showed them that they were welcome and wanted. We're talking about a top 5-10 in state recruit here and after many camps and visits and a desire to play for his childhood team bobby was very cold and uninterested.
I cant blame my family for choosing msu. I would send my kids where they are wanted too
And reports from his time over in bozeman are that he is not alone. Many wanted to play here but either felt unwanted or felt theyd get a useful degree over in bozeman
UM doesn't need bad fans like you and your family. Glad you are gone. Ha.
 
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