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What am I missing with Ah Yat?

TheNorthRemembers

TheNorthRemembers

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Everyone in Griz nation will tell you Ah Yat is the future, he's young but he's going to be great etc...

Am I the only one that's confused by what everyone else is seeing? I know he's a freshman. I know he's a pretty good runner but it's not like he's Mellott. From my eyes he is regressing as a passer and does not strike me as a lock to be a great QB. He has happy feet. He stares down his targets. He makes really poor decisions when under duress. I guess you can coach out all those things as he gets older but I also don't see elite arm talent or accuracy either. 59% completion and 5.5ypc are not good. What is the best throw he's made all season? I can't think of one that really stands out.

I'm sure he's a good kid and the family is Griz royalty but can anyone help me understand why he's already been anointed as a future star? Or at least enough of a talent to tank this season with a 2QB rotation?
 
I wont even waste my time posting to people like you. You do have all the talking points down which proves you cant see talent but you can mimic posters "stares down receivers" comments.

That tells me all I need to know about someone that hasn't played the game.

Enjoy the week
 
TheNorthRemembers said:
Everyone in Griz nation will tell you Ah Yat is the future, he's young but he's going to be great etc...

Am I the only one that's confused by what everyone else is seeing? I know he's a freshman. I know he's a pretty good runner but it's not like he's Mellott. From my eyes he is regressing as a passer and does not strike me as a lock to be a great QB. He has happy feet. He stares down his targets. He makes really poor decisions when under duress. I guess you can coach out all those things as he gets older but I also don't see elite arm talent or accuracy either. 59% completion and 5.5ypc are not good. What is the best throw he's made all season? I can't think of one that really stands out.

I'm sure he's a good kid and the family is Griz royalty but can anyone help me understand why he's already been anointed as a future star? Or at least enough of a talent to tank this season with a 2QB rotation?
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I think he has a lot of talent and some upside but he’s not there yet. The game at this level is so much faster and I still think he is trying to adjust to that. In his defense, he’s only a RS Freshmen and he will get better and better. It’s funny you mentioned Mellott as a comparison….i think that’s a fair one because if you recall Mellott as a freshman or RS freshman, he struggled a lot too…..especially processing plays and throwing the ball. Now he’s finally in a place as a senior where he is throwing the ball well and processing well. Fife needs to be the guy for now.
 
I think Ah Yat's biggest problem in the future will be durability. He's been out twice this year with injury. I like his willingness to get the yardage or the touchdown, but with his style of play I don't see him ever making it a full season. He's gonna need to add a little bulk, looks awfully skinny out there.
 
Dont Kick 2 Bergen said:
I wont even waste my time posting to people like you. You do have all the talking points down which proves you cant see talent but you can mimic posters "stares down receivers" comments.

That tells me all I need to know about someone that hasn't played the game.

Enjoy the week
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Yet you still posted which is weird...

I'm asking this question with all sincerity. I've watched all but maybe 10 Grizzly football games the last 30 years. I know enough to see a guy make good throws and bad throws. Ah Yat does stare down his receivers. He does throw without his feet set. Seems to me the biggest talking point is "Ah yat is the future"

Can you show me any examples of him flashing the talent that is apparently so obvious to everyone around the program? I'm not trying to dump on him at all and I hope I'm wrong about it I'm just a bit confused.
 
HookedonGriz said:
i think that’s a fair one because if you recall Mellott as a freshman or RS freshman, he struggled a lot too…..especially processing plays and throwing the ball.
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Are they simply trying to emulate what the cats did with Mellott and Chambers? I get the concept but Ah Yat isn't the athlete Mellott is. Even with the struggles passing you knew Mellott was the guy immediately after the playoffs that season.
 
garizzalies said:
Before his injury, didn’t he set a record for the most TDs by a QB?
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Rushing TD's. He finished the game with 11 rushes for 57 yards. 2 TD's were QB sneaks. The other 2 were 9 yard and 6 yard rushes. I mean props for scoring but Gillman and Ostmo combined for 250 on the ground that game. I wouldn't call that Elite production from a QB against a nonconference opponent.

I looked it up and he avgs 2.8 yards per carry. For comparison Cliff averaged 4.8 last season.
 
TheNorthRemembers said:
Are they simply trying to emulate what the cats did with Mellott and Chambers? I get the concept but Ah Yat isn't the athlete Mellott is. Even with the struggles passing you knew Mellott was the guy immediately after the playoffs that season.
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Nope, I don’t think they’re trying to emulate anything with regards to Mellott or the cats offense. Two very different offenses. Ah Yat is a much better passer than Tommy was at the same age and should only get better. Tommy could always run like the wind and has him beat in that category.
 
I think Keali'i Ah Yat COULD be the future--he is very athletic and has a great set of wheels but you're right on stating that he's too puny and needs to add 10-20 lbs. of good weight. And I also agree that his throwing mechanics are a mess.

Logan should have been our starter the entire season and if he were, we would be 9-2 or 10-1 right now-- we beat ND or Davis or both.

If Keali'i is our QB of the future, he'll have to earn it as young guns, like Luke Flowers, are coming up behind him, and after Logan graduates from UM next year, I am sure Coach Pease and Hauck will go looking in the portal for another QB transfer, which Bobby has done every year in the sequel !!!
 
HikeGlacier said:
He's not even close to being a better passed than TM.
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Ah Yat is a way better passer than Mellott. Mellott has improved this year, but rarely throws a nice ball. He throws shorter and completes some longer passes with surprise. His throws are very inconsistent. Some lol good and some are awful. He has a nice percentage this season, and I explained why above. You probably thought he threw well against the grizzlies last year in first half.
 
This is a coaching staff who is notorious - for 22+ years now - to NEVER want to put the ball in a freshman / RS freshman's hands unless they see them as a freak of nature with talent. Furthermore they've always felt this way about the QB. Only twice, when forced only by injury, did they trust an RS Frosh to be QB. Justin Hartman for one game against Idaho, and Cole Bergquist in 2005 when Jason Washington got hurt. That was is. Usually, when even faced with the probability of having an RS Soph QB, they'd make sure to bring in a transfer to compete and (usually) win the job. That has been their MO forever.

Until last year & this year. Then suddenly they give Ah Yat some games and some meaningful reps. They proceed forward to give him the chance to actually win the job and start the season with him in at QB1. Even after Fife played lights out for a few games, they went back to the rotation in hopes have Ah Yat rise up and take the job.

That tells me that either this staff, who is generally a little stubborn in their ways, had suddenly decided to adapt to the way they do things with young QBs, or they see something in Ah Yat that they've never seen in other young QBs.

Ah Yat is a very good athlete too, he can be a very well rounded QB if he can improve on vision / reads and probably work on his outward leadership of others as well.

We've seen some great throws from him and some good running too.

I think he's the future, Fife is the right now.
 
It is rare that freshman starts at QB. Look at our last few. Fife was a backup that didn't have great stats coming in. Now he is a very good QB. Cliff was a backup for what five years? He even split time in JC. Cam was 4 year backup. Sneed had to leave UNLV and go JC to get experience. And it goes on and on. Playing QB is the most difficult position on the field. It takes time. Ah Yat has had one summer to work with teammates and that is huge in development. I think he will be very very good.He is a great athlete and when he sets his feet he throws a beautiful ball. He has made some mistakes and a lot of those come with experience. And he will put on weight and get stronger which will make him a bigger threat. He is what 19?
 
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