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How badly will Davis beat the Cats?

I don't agree with that take. I understand what you are saying, but in my view you are 10-0 because of the offense.
I agree with you, although the Cat D has been fine too. What "Jim" said made no sense to me. And several Cat posters on here are almost always wrong too. They don't even know their own team, and then they try to tell us about the Griz. I don't know if they are stupid or mainly trolling.
 
While we're on tha topic, what's the plan for the QB position next year? You guys hitting the portal?
6' 3" Chance Wilson has Been the Back-up and got into most games this year. He is a Redshirt Freshman. Threw for over 10,000 yards in High School, and 139 TD's. He is from Oklahoma. Was also a 7 time State Track and Field Champion.
 
I would push back on that slightly. Let's take a look at the 5 teams you guys have faced on the road this year:

New Mexico: Can't remember his name, but their QB and offense had a pretty good day against you guys, and if it wasn't for 2 wide open dropped passes, you guys lose. You got lucky in that one.

Utah Tech: They have 1 total win. They are horrible.

Idaho State: Their offense is ok but it's nothing special. They got it tied at the start of the 4th but I don't think anybody actually thought they were gonna win that game. Plus that's just a really weird place to play that always leads to closer games. We know a thing or 2 about that as well.

Portland State: I'll give you credit, your guys' defense was very dominant in this game. You completely shut down Chachere and he was not the least bit comfortable out there. IMO, this was the best game your guys defense played all year.

Eastern: No Visperas in this game. Tie game 28-28 late in the third. Midway through the 4th it's a one score game before Tommy throws a horrendously bad pick on your own end of the field. Eastern had horrible play calling and I believe they ran it up the middle 4 straight plays when they should've thrown it. Good job by the cat D making the stand there cause if they don't, I think Eastern goes down and scores, and they probably would've went for 2 to try and win it. Your secondary was exposed big time in this game though, and at times you struggled with the run game.

Point being is on the road, your defense has had mixed results. Against more high octane offenses, the cat D, particularly the secondary, has struggled. If Visperas plays in that game, do the cats still win it? Maybe or maybe not but I would be willing to bet they would've scored more than 28 points in that game. Now you got your biggest road game of the year against an offense that has all kinds of weapons. They have multiple good receivers unlike Eastern who has just 1, the best RB in the league for 2 consecutive years, and a veteran QB who has played a lot of Football. Maybe your defense will surprise me, but I think they're gonna give up some points and yardage in this game. Your offense will absolutely go toe to toe with theirs and I think it's gonna be a shootout, but can you get a stop when you need one? Can you handle their up tempo offense? We'll find out Saturday night.
It's nice of you to teach some of these Cats about their team. Maybe they spend so much on egriz that they don't have time to follow their team.
 
I don't agree with that take. I understand what you are saying, but in my view you are 10-0 because of the offense.
The closer you look the more my take makes sense, and even Akem has this all wrong. The first unit has been exceptionally good in every area. Also, my take implies the offense is very good (with an asterisk). It's not a zero sum game.
 
I would push back on that slightly. Let's take a look at the 5 teams you guys have faced on the road this year:

New Mexico: Can't remember his name, but their QB and offense had a pretty good day against you guys, and if it wasn't for 2 wide open dropped passes, you guys lose. You got lucky in that one.

Utah Tech: They have 1 total win. They are horrible.

Idaho State: Their offense is ok but it's nothing special. They got it tied at the start of the 4th but I don't think anybody actually thought they were gonna win that game. Plus that's just a really weird place to play that always leads to closer games. We know a thing or 2 about that as well.

Portland State: I'll give you credit, your guys' defense was very dominant in this game. You completely shut down Chachere and he was not the least bit comfortable out there. IMO, this was the best game your guys defense played all year.

Eastern: No Visperas in this game. Tie game 28-28 late in the third. Midway through the 4th it's a one score game before Tommy throws a horrendously bad pick on your own end of the field. Eastern had horrible play calling and I believe they ran it up the middle 4 straight plays when they should've thrown it. Good job by the cat D making the stand there cause if they don't, I think Eastern goes down and scores, and they probably would've went for 2 to try and win it. Your secondary was exposed big time in this game though, and at times you struggled with the run game.

Point being is on the road, your defense has had mixed results. Against more high octane offenses, the cat D, particularly the secondary, has struggled. If Visperas plays in that game, do the cats still win it? Maybe or maybe not but I would be willing to bet they would've scored more than 28 points in that game. Now you got your biggest road game of the year against an offense that has all kinds of weapons. They have multiple good receivers unlike Eastern who has just 1, the best RB in the league for 2 consecutive years, and a veteran QB who has played a lot of Football. Maybe your defense will surprise me, but I think they're gonna give up some points and yardage in this game. Your offense will absolutely go toe to toe with theirs and I think it's gonna be a shootout, but can you get a stop when you need one? Can you handle their up tempo offense? We'll find out Saturday night.
I wish PR was capable of making a good post like this. Good stuff.

At UNM, the D gave up exactly zero points in the second half. Zilch. Nada. They had two TDs handed to them by the offense to make it close, but the Defense stiffened up nicely. The offense almost lost that game which supports my point. At a critical moment in the second half when UNM was on a nice drive there was a huge TFL that put them out of FG range. There were 40 mph cross wind gusts and even their coach said they shouldn't have tried. Another thing Akem and PR got completely wrong on their breakdowns.

Your other points are mostly fair. You are absolutely correct about this weekend being a true test.
 
Jim has the best take I've read so far on here. No idea if the Cats make the run to Frisco, but it won't be the fault of this defense if not. One deep at the QB position is a huge liability tho.

Without a doubt. Possibly double dip. Sorry to disappoint the usual suspects over here, but I'm afraid our backups aren't as good as the starter.
Not so sure. I think Chance Wilson has been given enough reps to show me that he can be the heir after another winter in the weight room and another spring. We need to maybe shop for some competition, but not to find the definitive starter.
 
I wish PR was capable of making a good post like this. Good stuff.

At UNM, the D gave up exactly zero points in the second half. Zilch. Nada. They had two TDs handed to them by the offense to make it close, but the Defense stiffened up nicely. The offense almost lost that game which supports my point. At a critical moment in the second half when UNM was on a nice drive there was a huge TFL that put them out of FG range. There were 40 mph cross wind gusts and even their coach said they shouldn't have tried. Another thing Akem and PR got completely wrong on their breakdowns.

Your other points are mostly fair. You are absolutely correct about this weekend being a true test.
That is true about the UNM game and the cat offense keeping them in it, but UNM's offense was able to move the ball and score some points on you guys. Plus like I mentioned, if it weren't for 2 wide open dropped balls, they probably at least get chip shot field goals on those drives and instead came away empty handed. You're correct that the D did buckle down in the second half for the most part, but the Lobos did shoot themselves in the foot a couple times as well.
 
Not so sure. I think Chance Wilson has been given enough reps to show me that he can be the heir after another winter in the weight room and another spring. We need to maybe shop for some competition, but not to find the definitive starter.
10-21, 48%. That’s your guy? Nice joke.
 
Per Sam Herder, Cats' Massey SOS is 38th, their opponents' record vs other teams is 34-55, and they have one ranked win (Idaho).
Davis' Massey SOS is 25th, their opponents record vs other teams is 34-53, and they have two ranked wins (Idaho and Griz).

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2024-week-12-resumes-bzbz/
The cats are 10-0 and have demolished everyone on their schedule. There is not a team on the griz schedule that would beat UNM. When they lose to Weber State or North Dakota you'll have something to hang your hat on. Until then you look pretty silly.
 
The cats are 10-0 and have demolished everyone on their schedule. There is not a team on the griz schedule that would beat UNM. When they lose to Weber State or North Dakota you'll have something to hang your hat on. Until then you look pretty silly.
Cats haven't demolished everyone on their schedule. Beat UNM in a furious comeback where Cats only led at end of game for 10 seconds, 35-31, late in game. UNM receivers dropped 2 easy passes, which would have changed course of game. "Demolished"? Now that's pretty funny. Beat EWU by 42-28, when EWU didn't have its starting QB. Game was tied with minute left in 3d Q. Beat Maine 41-24. Missouri St. would probably beat the Cats. The Cats are 10-0 against a weak schedule. Let's see if they demolish Davis.
 
10-21, 48%. That’s your guy? Nice joke.
It’s called a small sample size. Not statistically significant especially because for the most part he hasn’t been allowed to actually run the offense due to the Cats winning by large margins this season and him mostly handing the ball off.

You are a blowhard as per usual. You recently said “The D isn’t shaky. I base that on what coaches, players and parents have said. And some of the better posters on egriz.”

I mean you could be accurate in saying it wasn’t shaky. A shaky defense would do better than to allow 139 points over the course of 3 games. Now the worst Griz defense in 20 years, they would allow 139 points in 3 games, two of which were in WaGriz. Cope harder PR.
 
Right now the defense isn’t the problem..it again is offensive line play and the lack of consistency on offense. We have beat to death the qb issue which seems to be a momentum killer every time Bobby rotates them. But in Bobby’s own words”I don’t care” after being asked the progression of the quarterback position from spring through fall camp and one emerging as the starter. That answer really bothered me because Griz Nation cares.
As far as Davis and msu if it stays close into the 4th I think Davis will win. If msu gets out in front early by 10 msu wins. It could come down to that fatal turnover. They are the best two teams in the conference but I think Davis by 10. Should be a great game.
 
It’s called a small sample size. Not statistically significant especially because for the most part he hasn’t been allowed to actually run the offense due to the Cats winning by large margins this season and him mostly handing the ball off.

You are a blowhard as per usual. You recently said “The D isn’t shaky. I base that on what coaches, players and parents have said. And some of the better posters on egriz.”

I mean you could be accurate in saying it wasn’t shaky. A shaky defense would do better than to allow 139 points over the course of 3 games. Now the worst Griz defense in 20 years, they would allow 139 points in 3 games, two of which were in WaGriz. Cope harder PR.
Are you admitting that this statement of another Cat poster was not correct. That’s what I was addressing. “ Chance Wilson has been given enough reps to show me that he can be the heir after another winter in the weight room and another spring.”

Again, the D is fairly good. I judge by the whole season and how they are playing now. Three good games row. Nit the worst D in 20 years. That’s an incorrect and ignorant statement.

This blowhard was right with his football comments of note about Griz and Cats last season. To put it bluntly, I was right and all you Cats and many Griz posters were wrong the entire season. I am right on my Wilson commment too. You appear to agree with my comment. I was right on how the playoff runes and committee treat D2 games and wins too.
 
Are you admitting that this statement of another Cat poster was not correct. That’s what I was addressing. “ Chance Wilson has been given enough reps to show me that he can be the heir after another winter in the weight room and another spring.”

Again, the D is fairly good. I judge by the whole season and how they are playing now. Three good games row. Nit the worst D in 20 years. That’s an incorrect and ignorant statement.

This blowhard was right with his football comments of note about Griz and Cats last season. To put it bluntly, I was right and all you Cats and many Griz posters were wrong the entire season. I am right on my Wilson commment too. You appear to agree with my comment. I was right on how the playoff runes and committee treat D2 games and wins too.
139 points yielded to 3 teams who will not make the playoffs. Two of those games at WaGriz. That is historically bad defense for UM. Stop trying to sugar coat it. I grant you that you were correct last year in regard to the playoff committee. Most people admitted you were correct about that but because you are you, you made sure to bring that up and show it off to anyone and everyone like a toddler showing off a new toy. Beating Cal Poly and Northern Colorado by a lot is what the Griz are supposed to do. Just like the Cats have beaten up on the weak teams on their schedule as they were supposed to. That hardly represents a defensive renaissance.

You have bad takes all the time and either you are willfully ignorant or you are disingenuous with your arguments. You mentioned that MSU vs. Maine was somehow not a blowout when in reality the Cats pulled their starters in the 3rd quarter after going up 38-7. If you don’t watch the games, just admit it and move on.

I think Chance Wilson will develop into a good QB for the Cats. He will certainly get his opportunity to win in the job in the offseason. You say you are correct with your statement, but it is merely your opinion, not fact.
 
The cats are 10-0 and have demolished everyone on their schedule. There is not a team on the griz schedule that would beat UNM. When they lose to Weber State or North Dakota you'll have something to hang your hat on. Until then you look pretty silly.
Jim, I was just pointing out that UCD is fairly similar to the cats in SOS and opponents record vs other teams. I wasn't making a comparison between the cats and Griz. Those who are predicting a UCD win because the cats have a "weak" SOS are ignoring that UCD hasn't played the toughest schedule or beat a lot of good teams. cats SOS and record vs other teams will improve since they play UCD and UM to close out the regular season.

Comparative scores aren't worth much, but UCD beat the vandellas by 2 in Davis, and the cats crushed them in Bozo. Both cats and Davis beat EWU by similar margins in Cheney. Could be a great game in Davis on Saturday.
 
This game just won’t be as close as people think. We are significantly better in the trenches and it will show.
 
139 points yielded to 3 teams who will not make the playoffs. Two of those games at WaGriz. That is historically bad defense for UM. Stop trying to sugar coat it. I grant you that you were correct last year in regard to the playoff committee. Most people admitted you were correct about that but because you are you, you made sure to bring that up and show it off to anyone and everyone like a toddler showing off a new toy. Beating Cal Poly and Northern Colorado by a lot is what the Griz are supposed to do. Just like the Cats have beaten up on the weak teams on their schedule as they were supposed to. That hardly represents a defensive renaissance.

You have bad takes all the time and either you are willfully ignorant or you are disingenuous with your arguments. You mentioned that MSU vs. Maine was somehow not a blowout when in reality the Cats pulled their starters in the 3rd quarter after going up 38-7. If you don’t watch the games, just admit it and move on.

I think Chance Wilson will develop into a good QB for the Cats. He will certainly get his opportunity to win in the job in the offseason. You say you are correct with your statement, but it is merely your opinion, not fact.
Look at the last 3 games. Yes, D was shaky for 2/3 games. But they've cleaned up mistakes. Cal Poly scored more on the Cats than on the Griz. So, does that mean the Cat D is weak?

Nope, I have mostly good takes. I take shots at the Cats and am aggressive at times, because I like to jab at the Cats and tease them. That's why I started this thread and titled it as such. My football arguments are almost all good. You are just making stuff or lying. I don't buy the pulled their starters BS. Even if they did, the backups gave up too many points. I guess the Griz backups are better than the Cat backups, because the Griz backups have not given up many points in some of their games.

Since you don't follow the Griz, talk to the coach, players and parents, and follow the games very closely, why don't you move on? You are on the wrong board.

On Chance Wilson, fine. However, again, I called BS on what a Cat poster had said about Wilson, then you jumped on me, and in jumping on me, you agreed with me. My point is that he hasn't played enough to prove that he's the guy yet. Why don't you just read what is said, and stop being wrong and a dick? What I state is, or course, my opinion, but it is often backed up with facts. It is my opinion, backed up by the facts, that Wilson hasn't played enough, played enough when the game was on the line, and shown that he is the guy for next year. Why do you continue to fight me on that, when you know damn well that what I said is correct (and you are saying almost the same thing).

No, most people fought me on the playoff committee rule/stuff. Very few supported me. Again, why don't you stick with the facts.
 
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