HelenaHandBasket
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LOL, I not once said people can't have opinions.
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mthoopsfan
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I don't agree on the talent isn't good enough. At least earlier, people were saying this was the best o-line the Griz have had in multiple years, and people liked the new o-line coach.
People can be wrong.
The UC Davis coach said this was the first game all year they’ve been able to get pressure with just 4 rushers. They weren’t doing anything fancy schematically on the line. They were better. Which, means the talent isn’t good enough. Unless you’re saying it’s a coaching problem? It’s one of the two. I think the talent just isn’t quite good enough for a top echelon team.
mthoopsfan
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You are welcome to disagree but you are wrong on the D. Look at what Hauck said after the game. He said the D played well. I know you think you know more than the coaches, but I don't agree with that either.Just gonna have to agree to disagree with most of us on that one. I think everyone who removes their rose colored glasses can see that the defense is just downright bad this year. The same mistakes over and over again. Personnel issues on the d-line are a coaching and recruiting issue. Linebackers who lack the speed to play this defense is a coaching and recruiting issue. Then on the offensive side I don’t know where to begin. We again have no identity, the player rotations make no sense and hurt the productivity of the offense. The offensive line can’t block to save their lives. I watched a series in slow motion yesterday where the entire right side of the line was beat like a drum three plays in a row. Simply could not block UC Davis’s d line. I won’t call for jobs, but I will say that the product on the field this year dropped so dramatically from last year that some serious self scouting needs to take place. Maybe give your best back the bulk of the carries, maybe don’t rotate out your best QB when he’s just starting to heat up….. maybe, just maybe this team isnt any good this year. That’s sometimes the case. Griz struggled against bad teams this year, and lost to one VERY bad team in Weber. They might just be a mediocre team.
Yes, the D isn't as good as last year. But last year's D was great.
What mistakes are d-line making over and over again?
Wilson is very fast. Tirrell has good speed. He ran on the 4X100 relay in high school and did a bit of sprinting. I talked to him about this speed last week. I haven't noticed any slow linebackers. I can't imagine that the kid who started multiple games at San Diego St. Nor the kid so good he's playing as a frosh. Yes, Hill was very good and had surprising speed on the field (not at pro day).
Some of you just make these bold comments, which I think have little or no basis, and then you can't back them up. But you have every right to do so, and I have every right to comment on your comments.
mthoopsfan
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Yes, I think you and many posters are wrong. The Davis coach said that, but no he said nothing about the talent level. And getting beat doesn't mean that the talent level is off. Can be, but usually it doesn't mean that. Are you trying to say UM has the worst o-line of any team that Davis has played this year?
No, it's not one of the two. Good lines and good players sometimes have bad or weaker games and get beat. Your one of the two comment is just plain silly. To me, it shows that you don't understand the game.
mthoopsfan
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Receivers? Long snapper.
Well if the linebackers aren’t slow then maybe it’s bad angles and being out of position that they’re not able to make plays
Wilson is a stud, no question there.mthoopsfan
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Generally, o-linemen are in demand and could go elsewhere.
mthoopsfan
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Which safeties are bad? Meyer? He's terrific. Lee? Do you even know who the safeties are?
mthoopsfan
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You think a coach stopping a player to talk about something proves anything, let alone your point. That's pretty funny. How do coaches coach without talking to players? I saw the Davis coach talking to players too.
#15 Fan
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I thought the D has been improving and looked good Saturday against one of the most prolific FCS offenses. Larrison didn't get shit going until the 4th, and they kept Davis out of the endzone on multiple redzone drives. That's pretty damn good for what we saw against Weber. Davis had 30 points, and how many came on short fields? How many times did our D stuff Davis deep in their territory, only to watch the punter shank it and give us awesome field position? Our offense sputtered big time, and anyone blame the players or whatever, but that loss solely rests on Bobby Hauck. He completely took the air out of whatever momentum we had when Ah Yat went in. Fife was rolling, one poorly dropped pass and Hauck went to Ah Yat, and it destroyed momentum. That caused Fife and Ah Yat to force passes I don't think they normally would, just to try and get the upper hand on the other to keep playing. Coaches lost that game, straight up. Our defense kept us in that game into the 4th, we were literally down two possessions with 8 minutes left and the ball. One TD and 2 pt conversion, it's a one-score game. We stop their offense like we had most of the night, who fucking knows?? We won't cuz Bobby took that from us.........
The best coaches tend to use wax-sealed, handwritten letters and carrier pigeons to communicate with players. But Hauck? He's out there all willy-nilly just coaching players by talking directly to them. SMH.
Lol. Do you think the opposing coach is ever going to say the team they played had bad talent? Come on man.
The OL & DL got exposed. It’s going to happen again in 2 weeks. The talent level is a problem, whether you want to admit it or not. Doesn’t matter to me.
garizzalies
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Epic lie. This dude doesn’t even attend the games and hasn’t for years. Total troll job.
Talent on the lines in particular is lacking, especially defensive line.
garizzalies
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This guy is a football-idiot, and plain idiot-idiot. Never played the game and doesn’t even attend them. Has no idea what he’s talking about and only trolls. Whatever he suggests, believe the opposite.
I’ve never seen a safety tandem be asked to do the post game presser together. Never seen a safety tandem combine for 30 tackles in a game. That’s amazing. Hell, I’ve never seen a defensive group combine for that many tackles let alone two players. Both had huge plays and open field tackles to force punts. They were the least of our issues on Saturday night
That’s a sign of a shitty defense if safeties have 30 tackles.
In most standard defenses but in the hybrid 3-3-5 don't the LB's and Safeties get most of the stops?
After 7 years, talent and coaching are not totally separate issues. Coaches recruit, develop players, pick playing time, add strength and conditioning, adjust schemes to fit the game talent ( insisting on trying a square peg into round hole) thus talent on a team is also a reflection of coaching performance. It’s not high school where you are stuck with the kids in your district you have a direct impact on your roster. About to be a 4 loss regular season with 12 starting seniors and that is not RTD more like RTM return to mediocrity
Depends. If your safeties are getting all those tackles within 5 yards of the LOS it’s a good sign. If they’re getting the majority of them after that, not such a good thing.
