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Pros and Cons of the Transfer Portal

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GrizWin99

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We have 6+ weeks of idle time until more relevant football activities begin. That said, I’m going to start a meaningless football thread.😂

What are the pros and cons of the transfer portal?
- You can include all perspectives (fans, players, schools)

I’ll list a couple to start.

Pro
- ability to “transfer up” to larger market (player benefit)
-increased interest in different teams (fan benefit) ex. I will watch some McNeese St. games for the first time

Cons
- more competition for scholarships (player negative)
- favorite players can leave with eligibility remaining (fan/school negative:sometimes player negative)
 
Love it. Great idea. And, as a bonus, it has been DAYS since I have bitched at anybody for their opinion, so thank you for this opportunity! 🤣

Pros -- It was wrong to keep college athletes so absurdly tied to a decision they made around age 17. As much as I hate losing players, they deserve to still have that freedom of movement. They are adults.

Teams can fill holes more easily.

Cons - Smaller schools are absolutely working as developmental teams for bigger schools. We are in one of the better FCS dropdown spots, but there are some teams that are just going to become farm teams.

We are going to develop gives and lose them, and it will continue to break hearts.

Less players will end up with a local legacy.

Kids are entering the portal and not landing anywhere, greatly affecting their college education. Some won't go back to school without football.
 
Oldschoolhornet said:
El rod...to your point, too many of those players can't go back to school without the scholarship they chose to give up thinking there was a better deal out there for them. Sad deal.
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In all the hullabaloo re the portal this is almost completely overlooked/ignored. Indeed a sad deal and antithetical to whole purpose of the enterprise as it was understood in the mists of the past. Opportunities missed.
 
Oldschoolhornet said:
El rod...to your point, too many of those players can't go back to school without the scholarship they chose to give up thinking there was a better deal out there for them. Sad deal.
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Uh, they 100% all can go back to school. A common misconception is that you cannot attend a university without a scholarship or a stack of cash. Fucking get a loan like so many of us did and continue to do. I don’t have much sympathy. They choose not to go back to school. This isn’t DeVry.
 
A bird in the hand...
Then, someone tells them how great they are, asking 'Man! What are you doing here?'(Billy Joel's 'Piano Man' as background music).

'YEAHHH!!! Gonna hit the portal and get what's coming to me! Gimme a high five!' Pow! Oops, just killed the bird in the hand...then finds out other teams don't think he's such hot sh*t after all.

Now, what's he gonna do? Get a loan, get a real part-time job, like so many of us first time college students did. Right, CDA? The door hasn't closed on him, his route just changed. Why? His ego was writing checks his body couldn't cash. Cry the stupid fool a bucket of tears. He really DID get what was coming to him.
 
3-7-77 said:
A bird in the hand...
Then, someone tells them how great they are, asking 'Man! What are you doing here?'(Billy Joel's 'Piano Man' as background music).

'YEAHHH!!! Gonna hit the portal and get what's coming to me! Gimme a high five!' Pow! Oops, just killed the bird in the hand...then finds out other teams don't think he's such hot sh*t after all.

Now, what's he gonna do? Get a loan, get a real part-time job, like so many of us first time college students did. Right, CDA? The door hasn't closed on him, his route just changed. Why? His ego was writing checks his body couldn't cash. Cry the stupid fool a bucket of tears. He really DID get what was coming to him.
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I don’t know who you’re talking about, but whomever it is can continue to go to college and get a degree if he wants to.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Uh, they 100% all can go back to school. A common misconception is that you cannot attend a university without a scholarship or a stack of cash. Fucking get a loan like so many of us did and continue to do. I don’t have much sympathy. They choose not to go back to school. This isn’t DeVry.
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Quick research shows the cost for an in-state student is approximately $25K per year and the annual cost for an out of state student is almost twice that at around $48K to attend UM.
 
Oldschoolhornet said:
Quick research shows the cost for an in-state student is approximately $25K per year and the annual cost for an out of state student is almost twice that at around $48K to attend UM.
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And?
I assume you know student loans are a thing?
-Saying these portal fallouts won’t go to college without a football scholarship is valid.
-Saying these portal fallouts can’t go to college without a football scholarship is 100% false.
 
3-7-77 said:
A bird in the hand...
Then, someone tells them how great they are, asking 'Man! What are you doing here?'(Billy Joel's 'Piano Man' as background music).

'YEAHHH!!! Gonna hit the portal and get what's coming to me! Gimme a high five!' Pow! Oops, just killed the bird in the hand...then finds out other teams don't think he's such hot sh*t after all.

Now, what's he gonna do? Get a loan, get a real part-time job, like so many of us first time college students did. Right, CDA? The door hasn't closed on him, his route just changed. Why? His ego was writing checks his body couldn't cash. Cry the stupid fool a bucket of tears. He really DID get what was coming to him.
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Sometimes its just really bad advice that a young man isn’t seasoned enough to know better then to act on that advice. Maybe your ego has gotten you in trouble so that’s how you’re relating the issue but that’s not always the case for everyone. To be honest though, me thinks your still stuck on one player that you must’ve felt like he left you at the alter and I think maybe it’s time you to finally move on from that and let your wounds heal. Pretty sure you’re the only one here still posting stuff about him leaving us. For what it’s worth I actually think both the Griz and McDowell are better for the move, especially if the replacement has a higher ceiling. McDowell was excacly what we needed LAST year and helped a team of 100 players get us to a natty. Now he’s much closer to home and family which will probably be better for him. He left here with an amazing experience and memories. Now we can build on our success from last year and play a QB that has more then only one more year left in him. Time to move on.
 
My view is most players going into the Portal and not getting picked up, are in college to play football and not for an education. Many of them are probably too unmotivated for school and such poor thinkers, that they don't deserve to take up college slots and scholarship money. I don't feel sorry for them, or for most of them.

UM's website has its numbers for in-state and out-of-state. Out of state tuition has certainly gone up over the years.

No one is their right mind paying for school themselves (as opposed to family or big scholarships), should go to UM as an out of state student. Just become in-state, or move back home or a to a lower cost state or school.

$22,258 in state$42,784 out of state

www.umt.edu

Estimated Direct Cost

www.umt.edu
 
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Wolf777 said:
And what’s the cost down there in California?
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Hell, it's worse...a lot worse. I can't think of anything in California that isn't discernibly worse than Montana except for a couple of months of weather in the winter.
You obviously missed the point of my post. I was attempting to use some relative cost factors to show how unrealistic it would be to give up a football scholarship at UM and take out loans to replace the financial benefits. If a Griz player tried to use the portal early in his career and failed to get picked up he could easily be looking at an eighth to a quarter of a million in student loan debt.
My post had absolutely nothing to do with CA.
 
Oldschoolhornet said:
Hell, it's worse...a lot worse. I can't think of anything in California that isn't discernibly worse than Montana except for a couple of months of weather in the winter.
You obviously missed the point of my post. I was attempting to use some relative cost factors to show how unrealistic it would be to give up a football scholarship at UM and take out loans to replace the financial benefits. If a Griz player tried to use the portal early in his career and failed to get picked up he could easily be looking at an eighth to a quarter of a million in student loan debt.
My post had absolutely nothing to do with CA.
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False. You said too many players CAN’T go back to school without a scholarship. Which is also demonstrably false.
 
mthoopsfan said:
My view is most players going into the Portal and not getting picked up, are in college to play football and not for an education. Many of them are probably too unmotivated for school and such poor thinkers, that they don't deserve to take up college slots and scholarship money. I don't feel sorry for them, or for most of them.

UM's website has its numbers for in-state and out-of-state. Out of state tuition has certainly gone up over the years.

No one is their right mind paying for school themselves (as opposed to family or big scholarships), should go to UM as an out of state student. Just become in-state, or move back home or a to a lower cost state or school.

$22,258 in state$42,784 out of state

www.umt.edu

Estimated Direct Cost

www.umt.edu
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Serious question: why do schools charge more for an OOS student?

What is it about an OOS student that makes them more expensive? Everything (dining, lodging, tuition) is billed separately, so I fail to see why it should cost more for someone NOT from this state to attend our school(s) if they want to…
 
AZGrizFan said:
Serious question: why do schools charge more for an OOS student?

What is it about an OOS student that makes them more expensive? Everything (dining, lodging, tuition) is billed separately, so I fail to see why it should cost more for someone NOT from this state to attend our school(s) if they want to…
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The families of in-state students are paying taxes to support and subsidize the university system. Out of state families don’t pay taxes in MT.
 
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