drewklein1
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ursusmissoulus said:A couple points on the situation in Iraq.
The first dust up, you all I am sure will recall, was precipitated by an Iraqi invasion and occupation of Kuwait. The response, UN supported, resulted in a severe ass kicking of Iraqi forces in Kuwait and a hammering of their chicken sh$t butts on the run back into their hole. Iraq's actions led to UN sanctions against them in the ensueing years. One of the many was 2 "no fly" zones. The regime or whoever elected to take potshots at the brave airmen who enforced this UN mandated restriction. Well these airmen weren't French or German or Russian etc. Guess who cowboyed up and did the duty? Us and the Brits. The Iraqis were shooting at us. That, in and of itself, is plenty enough reason for an ass kicking. As far as our troops being there on the ground, pretty damn benevolent. We maybe should have just pounded them into the sand from the air. Too harsh for some to stomach though. What other options were there?
Don't get me started. :twocents:
Not to get nit picky with you, but Saddam told the US that he was planning on invading Kuwait, and George HW Bush let it be known that it would be treated as a regional matter not a US concern. Also the UN only backed the invasion after it was reported that the people of Kuwait were being tortured, raped, and the Iraqi soldiers were knocking babies out of their incubators. This all turned out to be false propaganda by a PR firm on Madison Ave. which was hired by the Kuwaitis. Then to make matters even better, after the US (whom supplied the Iraqis with most of their weapons during the war against Iran) kicked the crap out of Iraq, we forgot to depose Saddam. Instead we told him he could not fly planes over the no-fly zones but feel free to use helicopters. Saddam then mowed down thousands of shiites who fought against him (after being asked to by George HW Bush) with the helicopters the US said he could use. So don't get me started. This isn't a war about WMBs (there were none), it isn't about 9/11 (The CIA report clearly states that Saddam did not fund or assist Al-Qaeda and most of the terrorists were Saudi), this is a war of legacy and oil. George W Bush's father screwed up so bad over there the first time, that it is now time for his son to clean up the mess. Also it would be nice to install a pro-west democracy over there so we can keep our access to the region's oil reserves. So get you facts straight. I don't care if you are for or against the war but don't try to correct people and then leave out the most important parts. Lastly, let's not forget that is was the US that armed Saddam and Osama Bin Laden. It was the US invasion of Iraq that caused Bin Laden to be anti-west, before then he hated Saddam as much as we do. Reading usually will inform you pretty well, watching Fox News' 30 second sound bytes really doesn't do the situation justice.