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Zac Crews

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EverettGriz said:
wbtfg said:
It would be interesting to know where this decision cam from....Hauck/Haslam/Bodner/Christian?

Team captains, entire team, Crews himself?

I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate) that reasonable conditions were established for him to join the team and they were not met.

Nope. I guarantee this is not true. All the coaches and majority or the team supported him coming on. A few teammates said absolutely not, and refused to meet or talk with him. So in May the choice put out was him or them, which is unfortunate because I'm willing to bet that if these few took 5 minutes with the kid, they'd see he isn't to be defined by that Venmo comment. That said, difficult situation for both sides and I see both sides point.

UM's miss will be another's gain. Maybe even the Cats, so their fanbase should retract their claws a bit. As should we.
 
astutegriz said:
EverettGriz said:
Team captains, entire team, Crews himself?

I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate) that reasonable conditions were established for him to join the team and they were not met.

Nope. I guarantee this is not true. All the coaches and majority or the team supported him coming on. A few teammates said absolutely not, and refused to meet or talk with him. So in May the choice put out was him or them, which is unfortunate because I'm willing to bet that if these few took 5 minutes with the kid, they'd see he isn't to be defined by that Venmo comment. That said, difficult situation for both sides and I see both sides point.

UM's miss will be another's gain. Maybe even the Cats, so their fanbase should retract their claws a bit. As should we.

You can’t say what he said and expect to get the privilege of others still accepting you. It is what it is. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. If there is any players at all that would be uncomfortable by him being there…then he shouldn’t be. Racism has no place in college football or the UM locker room
 
astutegriz said:
EverettGriz said:
Team captains, entire team, Crews himself?

I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate) that reasonable conditions were established for him to join the team and they were not met.

Nope. I guarantee this is not true. All the coaches and majority or the team supported him coming on. A few teammates said absolutely not, and refused to meet or talk with him. So in May the choice put out was him or them, which is unfortunate because I'm willing to bet that if these few took 5 minutes with the kid, they'd see he isn't to be defined by that Venmo comment. That said, difficult situation for both sides and I see both sides point.

UM's miss will be another's gain. Maybe even the Cats, so their fanbase should retract their claws a bit. As should we.

+1
 
astutegriz said:
EverettGriz said:
Team captains, entire team, Crews himself?

I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate) that reasonable conditions were established for him to join the team and they were not met.

Nope. I guarantee this is not true. All the coaches and majority or the team supported him coming on. A few teammates said absolutely not, and refused to meet or talk with him. So in May the choice put out was him or them, which is unfortunate because I'm willing to bet that if these few took 5 minutes with the kid, they'd see he isn't to be defined by that Venmo comment. That said, difficult situation for both sides and I see both sides point.

UM's miss will be another's gain. Maybe even the Cats, so their fanbase should retract their claws a bit. As should we.

From my understanding, there is truth to what we're both saying. I'll leave it at that as there's already an 18 page thread on this.
 
EverettGriz said:
wbtfg said:
It would be interesting to know where this decision cam from....Hauck/Haslam/Bodner/Christian?

Team captains, entire team, Crews himself?

I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate) that reasonable conditions were established for him to join the team and they were not met.

Completely false! Nice try though
 
wyomingriz said:
EverettGriz said:
Team captains, entire team, Crews himself?

I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate) that reasonable conditions were established for him to join the team and they were not met.

Completely false! Nice try though

Hey thanks. If you're saying I'm wrong, I know I'm 100% correct.
 
wyomingriz said:
EverettGriz said:
Hey thanks. If you're saying I'm wrong, I know I'm 100% correct.

Way to speculate and make up shit along the way, people like you are part of the problem.

Dude, it's ALL speculation. Shit, we have 19 pages of nothing BUT speculation. I admitted I had no idea if what I heard is correct, but I'll tell you this: I trust my information source considerably more than ANYTHING I've read on here.

And with all due respect, the only problem was Zach's Venmo post.
 
EverettGriz said:
wyomingriz said:
Way to speculate and make up shit along the way, people like you are part of the problem.

Dude, it's ALL speculation. Shit, we have 19 pages of nothing BUT speculation. I admitted I had no idea if what I heard is correct, but I'll tell you this: I trust my information source considerably more than ANYTHING I've read on here.

And with all due respect, the only problem was Zach's Venmo post.

Good source but you have no indication if it's correct? Come on dude, that's one to bury, and it is false
 
wyomingriz said:
EverettGriz said:
Dude, it's ALL speculation. Shit, we have 19 pages of nothing BUT speculation. I admitted I had no idea if what I heard is correct, but I'll tell you this: I trust my information source considerably more than ANYTHING I've read on here.

And with all due respect, the only problem was Zach's Venmo post.

Good source but you have no indication if it's correct? Come on dude, that's one to bury, and it is false

yes that was a pretty unbelievable post lol...sounds like something from the Clinton campaign .....
 
retiredpopo said:
wyomingriz said:
Good source but you have no indication if it's correct? Come on dude, that's one to bury, and it is false

yes that was a pretty unbelievable post lol...sounds like something from the Clinton campaign .....

Help me understand here. Why is it so unbelievable that the staff would impose conditions for Crews to join the team?
 
EverettGriz said:
retiredpopo said:
yes that was a pretty unbelievable post lol...sounds like something from the Clinton campaign .....

Help me understand here. Why is it so unbelievable that the staff would impose conditions for Crews to join the team?

Sure, I'll try to help you understand. To summarize: you state a falsehood with the caveat: "I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate)" Posters who know let you know you are wrong. You say, we are both right. They say, nope you are wrong. You change tactics and say you know for sure you're right. They say, nope you are wrong. You then admit you have no idea if you're right, but deflect by saying the Venmo comment is unjust, so nobody but Crews can be wrong. They say, nope, you're still wrong on your information. You say I'm speculating so we all must be speculating. They say, nope, they know and you're wrong.

Finally, you deflect and say why can't what I initially said be true. To answer this last question: it is not unbelievable the staff would impose conditions and Zac didn't meet them - it just didn't happen that way.
 
astutegriz said:
EverettGriz said:
Help me understand here. Why is it so unbelievable that the staff would impose conditions for Crews to join the team?

Sure, I'll try to help you understand. To summarize: you state a falsehood with the caveat: "I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate)" Posters who know let you know you are wrong. You say, we are both right. They say, nope you are wrong. You change tactics and say you know for sure you're right. They say, nope you are wrong. You then admit you have no idea if you're right, but deflect by saying the Venmo comment is unjust, so nobody but Crews can be wrong. They say, nope, you're still wrong on your information. You say I'm speculating so we all must be speculating. They say, nope, they know and you're wrong.

Finally, you deflect and say why can't what I initially said be true. To answer this last question: it is not unbelievable the staff would impose conditions and Zac didn't meet them - it just didn't happen that way.

Thanks, uh, for not answering the question at all.
 
EverettGriz said:
astutegriz said:
Sure, I'll try to help you understand. To summarize: you state a falsehood with the caveat: "I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate)" Posters who know let you know you are wrong. You say, we are both right. They say, nope you are wrong. You change tactics and say you know for sure you're right. They say, nope you are wrong. You then admit you have no idea if you're right, but deflect by saying the Venmo comment is unjust, so nobody but Crews can be wrong. They say, nope, you're still wrong on your information. You say I'm speculating so we all must be speculating. They say, nope, they know and you're wrong.

Finally, you deflect and say why can't what I initially said be true. To answer this last question: it is not unbelievable the staff would impose conditions and Zac didn't meet them - it just didn't happen that way.

Thanks, uh, for not answering the question at all.

Haha. I was posting for the amusement of others because a narcissist's mind like yours can't accept they are wrong and will do *anything* to deflect this, even sounding batsh*t crazy.

To simplify even further (for others). Your question: Why is it so unbelievable that the staff would impose conditions for Crews to join the team?

My answer above: It is not unbelievable the staff would impose conditions and Zac didn't meet them - it just didn't happen that way.
 
astutegriz said:
EverettGriz said:
Team captains, entire team, Crews himself?

I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate) that reasonable conditions were established for him to join the team and they were not met.

Nope. I guarantee this is not true. All the coaches and majority or the team supported him coming on. A few teammates said absolutely not, and refused to meet or talk with him. So in May the choice put out was him or them, which is unfortunate because I'm willing to bet that if these few took 5 minutes with the kid, they'd see he isn't to be defined by that Venmo comment. That said, difficult situation for both sides and I see both sides point.

UM's miss will be another's gain. Maybe even the Cats, so their fanbase should retract their claws a bit. As should we.

Finally, an explanation that makes sense, and it looks like you know what you are talking about. Thx, astute.
 
EverettGriz said:
astutegriz said:
Sure, I'll try to help you understand. To summarize: you state a falsehood with the caveat: "I've heard indications (absolutely no way to know if they are accurate)" Posters who know let you know you are wrong. You say, we are both right. They say, nope you are wrong. You change tactics and say you know for sure you're right. They say, nope you are wrong. You then admit you have no idea if you're right, but deflect by saying the Venmo comment is unjust, so nobody but Crews can be wrong. They say, nope, you're still wrong on your information. You say I'm speculating so we all must be speculating. They say, nope, they know and you're wrong.

Finally, you deflect and say why can't what I initially said be true. To answer this last question: it is not unbelievable the staff would impose conditions and Zac didn't meet them - it just didn't happen that way.

Thanks, uh, for not answering the question at all.

Astute understood and answered your question, and it appears that astute is correct.
 
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