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HighLineGRIZ said:
Alumni that base their donations off of the success of a football team should grow up and get a life...

I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but it is their money dictate what they want to do with it. I'm sure you don't want to be told what do with the money you have earned. It is bad enough being forced to pay taxes, despite having pathetic politicians turning our government pathetic.
 
As poorly as the Griz played, as bad as the play calling was, as poorly prepared as the coaches had the team, and as awful as the players executed on the field, the truth is: if you take away the two fumbles that were returned for TD's, the Griz were still in the game. In fact, it probably would have been tied at worst with our last score.

I'm as mad as anybody about the face plant performed by the team, but I will look forward to how they respond. I'd rather they lose a game like this early, as opposed to later in the season. :twocents:
 
mtgrizrule said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
Alumni that base their donations off of the success of a football team should grow up and get a life...

I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but it is their money dictate what they want to do with it. I'm sure you don't want to be told what do with the money you have earned. It is bad enough being forced to pay taxes, despite having a pathetic government.

It is their money and they can do whatever they want with it... but to me it shows that they really don't care about the school or its primary purpose. Pisses me off to read comments on here about people wanting to take actions that harm the school just to make a point on dissatisfaction of the football program... This "win at all costs" mentality and using money to manipulate people's decisions really only creates problems. Boosters with that mind set are often liabilities to the program, especially when it comes to compliance.
 
HighLineGRIZ said:
mtgrizrule said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
Alumni that base their donations off of the success of a football team should grow up and get a life...

I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but it is their money dictate what they want to do with it. I'm sure you don't want to be told what do with the money you have earned. It is bad enough being forced to pay taxes, despite having a pathetic government.

It is their money and they can do whatever they want with it... but to me it shows that they really don't care about the school or its primary purpose. Pisses me off to read comments on here about people wanting to take actions that harm the school just to make a point on dissatisfaction of the football program... This "win at all costs" mentality and using money to manipulate people's decisions really only creates problems. Boosters with that mind set are often liabilities to the program, especially when it comes to compliance.

For the record, I agree with you. It is even worse in politics these days. :thumb:
 
mtgrizrule said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
mtgrizrule said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
Alumni that base their donations off of the success of a football team should grow up and get a life...

I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but it is their money dictate what they want to do with it. I'm sure you don't want to be told what do with the money you have earned. It is bad enough being forced to pay taxes, despite having a pathetic government.

It is their money and they can do whatever they want with it... but to me it shows that they really don't care about the school or its primary purpose. Pisses me off to read comments on here about people wanting to take actions that harm the school just to make a point on dissatisfaction of the football program... This "win at all costs" mentality and using money to manipulate people's decisions really only creates problems. Boosters with that mind set are often liabilities to the program, especially when it comes to compliance.

For the record, I agree with you. It is even worse in politics these days. :thumb:

Money manipulation in politics? Nah that never happens... ;) :(
 
Jaymerz said:
As poorly as the Griz played, as bad as the play calling was, as poorly prepared as the coaches had the team, and as awful as the players executed on the field, the truth is: if you take away the two fumbles that were returned for TD's, the Griz were still in the game. In fact, it probably would have been tied at worst with our last score.

I'm as mad as anybody about the face plant performed by the team, but I will look forward to how they respond. I'd rather they lose a game like this early, as opposed to later in the season. :twocents:

No, no, no. The ship be sinkin'. Get with the program.
 
HighLineGRIZ said:
mtgrizrule said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
Alumni that base their donations off of the success of a football team should grow up and get a life...

I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but it is their money dictate what they want to do with it. I'm sure you don't want to be told what do with the money you have earned. It is bad enough being forced to pay taxes, despite having a pathetic government.

It is their money and they can do whatever they want with it... but to me it shows that they really don't care about the school or its primary purpose. Pisses me off to read comments on here about people wanting to take actions that harm the school just to make a point on dissatisfaction of the football program... This "win at all costs" mentality and using money to manipulate people's decisions really only creates problems. Boosters with that mind set are often liabilities to the program, especially when it comes to compliance.
It's ALWAYS about the money...and that will continue... :roll: :egriz:
 
The question becomes, is Delaney the future of the Griz Football Program? Mick was brought in at a time of crisis created by off field issues but mostly by a rookie University President. Mick clearly helped stabilize the program.
However. age alone dictates that MD should be viewed as a stop gap coach and in my opinion his tenure ends this season. The University and AD should already have feelers out for his replacement. The job should be advertised nationally and it should be an open, legitimate search and not a mandatory advertisement to appease state hiring laws because the successor has already been selected in house.
That being said, I suspect Engstrom sees Delaney as the ideal tool to deemphasize football in the University culture. I seriously question RE's commitment to athletics at the U of Mt.
 
Blgs Griz Fan said:
The question becomes, is Delaney the future of the Griz Football Program? Mick was brought in at a time of crisis created by off field issues but mostly by a rookie University President. Mick clearly helped stabilize the program.
However. age alone dictates that MD should be viewed as a stop gap coach and in my opinion his tenure ends this season. The University and AD should already have feelers out for his replacement. The job should be advertised nationally and it should be an open, legitimate search and not a mandatory advertisement to appease state hiring laws because the successor has already been selected in house.
That being said, I suspect Engstrom sees Delaney as the ideal tool to deemphasize football in the University culture. I seriously question RE's commitment to athletics at the U of Mt.
+100... :egriz:
 
Lets see how the team responds this week. If we play like we did Saturday night than the writing on the wall seems obvious. I expect this team to regroup and beat psu. Personally I will be interested to see what Mick has to say in the coaches show. As far as money is concerned I personally donate money to the athletic dept. and designate money to The Business School. If Haslam doesn't want to put a quality team on the field than I may reconsider things. I don't believe that's the case. The fact is we lost. The concern is how we lost and how badly. Losing is one thing but getting pasted is another.
One last point............the coach that needs to look in the mirror is Scott Gragg. His o-line failed miserably. To the point where Jordy bout got killed.
 
the most obvious point is, should the future of the Griz program be paced in the hands of a 73 year old coach that has never had a winning season record? Age alone dictates the search should be on.
We should be looking for a coach that is young aggressive and on his way up and not one that was coaxed out of retirement.
 
Blgs Griz Fan said:
the most obvious point is, should the future of the Griz program be paced in the hands of a 73 year old coach that has never had a winning season record? Age alone dictates the search should be on.
We should be looking for a coach that is young aggressive and on his way up and not one that was coaxed out of retirement.

Agreed. I'm afraid of this hiring in house and not looking for who may actually be the best hire for the program. If that person is in-house so be it, but extend the search farther than Arthur and Broadway.

However, we are currently in THIS season with Delaney. Support what we have and keep our heads up. We have a good team, I knew this in the fall. We played as bad as we can and now it's time to learn from the humbling loss.
 
I am not saying fire Delaney but I am saying his tenure needs to be limited. Mick is a decent fellow and his coaching skills are questionable but to think the long term interests of the program should rest in his hands is foolish.
Finish the year out for sure but certainly have plans to refresh the coaching staff with new young talent and start keeping the eyes and ears open for what is available immediately.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Jaymerz said:
As poorly as the Griz played, as bad as the play calling was, as poorly prepared as the coaches had the team, and as awful as the players executed on the field, the truth is: if you take away the two fumbles that were returned for TD's, the Griz were still in the game. In fact, it probably would have been tied at worst with our last score.

I'm as mad as anybody about the face plant performed by the team, but I will look forward to how they respond. I'd rather they lose a game like this early, as opposed to later in the season. :twocents:

No, no, no. The ship be sinkin'. Get with the program.

:lol: :lol:
 
CV Griz Fan said:
hollybear said:
If you are a die-hard Griz fan like me, and you have the same sickening feeling in the pit of your stomach as I do, you need to start expressing your feelings to the powers that be at UM, like the AD, and Engstrom. Follow the money. I assure you that they do. If they become convinced that they will start seeing empty seats on Saturday, or lose alumni contributions because of the dissatisfaction with the football team, they will act. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Delaney needs to go after this season, and the fans supporting this program need to make that fact very clear to our politically correct president, who is more worried about age discrimination caused by firing a 73-year old has-been coach than he is about winning football games.

But I assure you that you will get his attention if he thinks dollars are involved.

Afraid of age discrimination, are you serious? Delaney is under contract. If RE fired him, Delaney would get the remaining dollars on his contract. That's it.

Who hired him, who keeps him in his position? RE has been the heart of the problem. Looking to him to 'fix' this problem is _______________.
 
The "UM Dominance" ship has sailed. The lack of foresight by the UM admin coupled with the strides other BSC schools have made over the past 5 years have made sure of that. What the program must do is make the correct moves now to allow them to be in the running each and every season...but alas, the same people are in charge.
 
I find it ironic that soMe of the same "Get rid of Delaney" people in this thread (Alpha Excluded) want Travon Van benched now, only THREE GAMES after those same people were particpating in threads titled TRAVON IS THE MAN AND THANK YOU MARSHALL FOR GIVING US TRAVON. See a pattern developing here??? :lol:

Having said that, I don't think Mick makes as many in-game decisions as you all like to think he does. I question whether his staff is as strong as it needs to be for the Griz to be as good as I think they CAN BE.
 
I know it isn't possible..but Engstrom shouldn't even be involved in the hiring or search for a new coach. Have you ever talked to the guy? He hasn't a clue about anything sports related. Social Retard is the best term for RE....
You would think any coach looking to change programs would jump at the opportunity to coach at Montana. We have top notch facilities and fan base in the entire country..we deserve a top notch coach!!!!!
 
havgrizfan said:
I find it ironic that soMe of the same "Get rid of Delaney" people in this thread (Alpha Excluded) want Travon Van benched now, only THREE GAMES after those same people were particpating in threads titled TRAVON IS THE MAN AND THANK YOU MARSHALL FOR GIVING US TRAVON. See a pattern developing here??? :lol:

Why would anyone want Trayvon benched? What am I missing he looked better than Canada and was one of the few bright spots on offense in my opinion. Maybe i missed something I kind of stopped paying attention at the half when it was obvious that eh teams spirit was not in it and they were all looking defeated and in panic mode like a deer in the headlights.
 
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