Would you Rather?

[SoldierGriz]

1. Have a Griz team that had a couple or few players enter the portal each year because they are FBS caliber...or

Have no players enter the portal because they are not?

2. Have FBS programs poaching coaches because they have endless potential...or

Have no coaches leaving for FBS programs?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

1 and 2.

 

[SoldierGriz]

1 and 2.

Oops, forgot the mandatory 3rd option.

:lol:

 

[Griz Addict]

Depends if the poaching doesn't work.

We could have a coach with strong UM ties that schools try to poaching but, he won't leave because it's his home. Or we could have a really good coach come in leave in 2 years and take all the players he recruited, with him. Then we are left in shambles and the next guy is fucked.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Depends if the poaching doesn't work.

We could have a coach with strong UM ties that schools try to poaching but, he won't leave because it's his home. Or we could have a really good coach come in leave in 2 years and take all the players he recruited, with him. Then we are left in shambles and the next guy is f###[#].

Maybe. But, in the glory days of Griz football, Griz coaches were in demand and the wheels didn't fall off.

 

[Bok_Choi]

The answer here is both. The alternative gets you sixth place in the conference in year five.

The question is what's taking the NIL stuff so long to get rolling? Attracting and retaining talent would be immensely more realistic if there were something viable in place, given the possibility that cough, cough, bergen, cough, cough was being courted.

 

[RoseyMustGo]

Depends if the poaching doesn't work.

We could have a coach with strong UM ties that schools try to poaching but, he won't leave because it's his home. Or we could have a really good coach come in leave in 2 years and take all the players he recruited, with him. Then we are left in shambles and the next guy is f###[#].

Maybe. But, in the glory days of Griz football, Griz coaches were in demand and the wheels didn't fall off.

You just identified a very significant point. A head FCS coaching job should be a stepping-stone for coaches wanting to advance to a head coaching job in FBS. And, every head coach we have had for the past 30+ years has had that goal, with the exceptions of Read and Delaney...... both at the end of their coaching career and near retirement. But Dennehy, Glenn, Hauck, Stitt, and Pflu all had aspirations to move-up, and used the UM coaching gig as a vehicle to facilitate that. Three of them achieved their goal.

But, we now have a head coach who has basically been blessed with a lifetime job, according to many posters. He left for the big show...... failed...... then was able to use his crony connections to return, with seemingly no pressure to succeed, and an obvious never-before visible comfort level with losing. He fills his assistant positions with old buddies, coasting into retirement, with little energy for recruiting. The fire he and his staff exhibited in 1.0, is now absent with 2.0.

This is a big problem, IMO, and a reason why

 

[CDAGRIZ]

1 and 2.

Oops, forgot the mandatory 3rd option.

:lol:

I honestly don’t know how to answer the question. Is it two questions with two choices per question? If so, I’ll take the things written after #1 and #2. Or do I have to pick one of the four things? If so, I’ll take the FBS level players.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Oops, forgot the mandatory 3rd option.

:lol:

I honestly don’t know how to answer the question. Is it two questions with two choices per question? If so, I’ll take the things written after #1 and #2. Or do I have to pick one of the four things? If so, I’ll take the FBS level players.

Good grief. I bad at riting. :lol:

 

[RABIDAWG]

1. Someone else shared the idea of recruiting to entering the portal. The idea would be advertising our program, facilities, history, and campus as a strong program for a player to develop the skills needed to move into FBS programs. For perhaps 2 years of showcasing such talent, we might get elite players developing in our program, and maybe even keep a few. The concept of team loyalty and cohesion seems to be over with the NIL money. In my view, the FCS will merely be a development league for the FBS and PRO levels. Players who decide to stay at UM would be those not aspiring to move on, and a talent level similar to the better Div II players. That makes me wonder that Div II, NAIA, and Div III programs might show more stability and true student-athletes experiences than the FCS-FBS mess. The NCAA certainly caused fundamental changes for the worst. If we want to play in the NIL arena, we in no way compete, even if we were FBS.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

1. Someone else shared the idea of recruiting to entering the portal. The idea would be advertising our program, facilities, history, and campus as a strong program for a player to develop the skills needed to move into FBS programs. For perhaps 2 years of showcasing such talent, we might get elite players developing in our program, and maybe even keep a few. The concept of team loyalty and cohesion seems to be over with the NIL money. In my view, the FCS will merely be a development league for the FBS and PRO levels. Players who decide to stay at UM would be those not aspiring to move on, and a talent level similar to the better Div II players. That makes me wonder that Div II, NAIA, and Div III programs might show more stability and true student-athletes experiences than the FCS-FBS mess. The NCAA certainly caused fundamental changes for the worst. If we want to play in the NIL arena, we in no way compete, even if we were FBS.

IDK who floated that idea, but he/she is clearly a genius.

 

[RABIDAWG]

I guess I’m the genius!

 

[RoseyMustGo]

1. Someone else shared the idea of recruiting to entering the portal. The idea would be advertising our program, facilities, history, and campus as a strong program for a player to develop the skills needed to move into FBS programs. For perhaps 2 years of showcasing such talent, we might get elite players developing in our program, and maybe even keep a few. The concept of team loyalty and cohesion seems to be over with the NIL money. In my view, the FCS will merely be a development league for the FBS and PRO levels. Players who decide to stay at UM would be those not aspiring to move on, and a talent level similar to the better Div II players. That makes me wonder that Div II, NAIA, and Div III programs might show more stability and true student-athletes experiences than the FCS-FBS mess. The NCAA certainly caused fundamental changes for the worst. If we want to play in the NIL arena, we in no way compete, even if we were FBS.

And interesting concept, and one which should be considered. I know this, the FCS teams who figure out a way to gain an advantage is finding good portal players will win, and those which don't will fall behind. Not sure our dinosaur coaching staff has the creative horsepower to accomplish this.
I made a extensive thread about the need to hire a non-coach, former player, young, great relationship-building skills FTE, to work on the road 12 months of the year developing strong relationships with 15-30 solid FBS coaching staffs (doesn't have to be only the head coach, but also position coaches), who could give us a heads-up on their players who would be entering the portal, and possibly have some influence on helping us recruit them to Montana. His job would be to meet them in their office, develop a social media presence with them, take them to lunch, etc. General methods of relationship-building.
I was chided and ridiculed by the same hacks on here who have no vision or creativity. Keeping the status quo under these fossils coaching our team seems to be in vogue with many posters. And these are the same posters who will go down with the ship and continue to support Hauck with every 5th place Big Sky finish in our future.

 

[uptopgriz]

1. Someone else shared the idea of recruiting to entering the portal. The idea would be advertising our program, facilities, history, and campus as a strong program for a player to develop the skills needed to move into FBS programs. For perhaps 2 years of showcasing such talent, we might get elite players developing in our program, and maybe even keep a few. The concept of team loyalty and cohesion seems to be over with the NIL money. In my view, the FCS will merely be a development league for the FBS and PRO levels. Players who decide to stay at UM would be those not aspiring to move on, and a talent level similar to the better Div II players. That makes me wonder that Div II, NAIA, and Div III programs might show more stability and true student-athletes experiences than the FCS-FBS mess. The NCAA certainly caused fundamental changes for the worst. If we want to play in the NIL arena, we in no way compete, even if we were FBS.

IDK who floated that idea, but he/she is clearly a genius.

We don't do this because we have an archaic head coach that refuses to emrace social media and instead embraces meaningless things like#RTD.

 

[RoseyMustGo]

IDK who floated that idea, but he/she is clearly a genius.

We don't do this because we have an archaic head coach that refuses to emrace social media and instead embraces meaningless things like#RTD.

Gimmicky sayings like "Fight on", and "Return To Dominance" are used by Bobby to keep the QB Clubers mollified and hopeful.