Will we make the playoffs next year?

[getgrizzy]

7-4 appears to be the cutoff for making the playoffs in this day and age. We should go 2-1 in the non-conference, but I'm thinking that third team may be tougher since we already have a weak Valpo team schedule.

If we go 2-1 that means we need to go 5-3 in the conference. Unless we get a more dynamic QB and make some strategic changes on offense, it will be difficult. Four of the five teams we lost to are on the schedule again this year. We didn't play PSU, WSU or UND, who are all on the schedule this year, but we lost to 2 of those 3 in 2015 and 2 are coming off playoff years. So we're 2-6 in games against our 2017 opponents last time we played them. The wins were against UND in 2015 and ISU in 2016. Both at home.

 

[BWahlberg]

. Unless we get a more dynamic QB and make some strategic changes on offense, it will be difficult.

Not trying to derail this thread but are you saying that the current QBs on the roster aren't dynamic enough... or that whoever the 2017 QB is he will need to be "more dynamic" than Brady Gustafson was?

 

[poorgriz]

Nope. I'm struggling to find 7 wins on this schedule unless they fill one of the 2 open dates with another weak FCS opponent.

Outside of the Washington game, I'm struggling to find a loss next year....and I believe we have a chance to pull that upset.

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You might want to pull back a bit, sit a couple plays out, and worry about trying to see if you can take down Northern Colorado first.

 

[sdk.catfish]

ordigger wrote:

Outside of the Washington game, I'm struggling to find a loss next year....and I believe we have a chance to pull that upset.

Is proper concussion protocol in place here? :roll:

 

[PlayerRep]

Using the "logic" of some in the thread about how Pflu would have done at UM, no one knows whether the Griz will make the playoffs next year. Therefore, no one should express an opinion on that subject now.

 

[krammer]

. Unless we get a more dynamic QB and make some strategic changes on offense, it will be difficult.

Not trying to derail this thread but are you saying that the current QBs on the roster aren't dynamic enough... or that whoever the 2017 QB is he will need to be "more dynamic" than Brady Gustafson was?

b/w,,,imo the latter, having said that, the qb position is important in all offenses and according to stitt really so in his.......this dynamic qb must be a fixture every year, not just 2017.......coaching has to be a big part of it as I think we have very good athletic qbs.....

 

[Griz til I die]

I think if we play the entire season the way we played against St. Francis and Northern Iowa this year, we have the poetential to be one of the top teams in the country. The only loss on the current schedule that I see is Washington. We can beat everybody else

 

[Griz Man]

. Unless we get a more dynamic QB and make some strategic changes on offense, it will be difficult.

Not trying to derail this thread but are you saying that the current QBs on the roster aren't dynamic enough... or that whoever the 2017 QB is he will need to be "more dynamic" than Brady Gustafson was?

Wasn't sure if I should post here or in the spreadsheet/quant analysis thread. I think what people want to see more of in the QB spot is the "it" factor, where "it" is the tendency to elevate play when under duress. Coach referenced "it" during the season this year - the QB's were making the right reads and throws when ahead or not challenged, but less so when challenged mentally and physically. Our tandem of Brady and Chalich was talented, but they didn't have enough of "it". Hoping that whoever emerges this year does! (And spreadsheets, QB rotation analysis, etc. don't capture the "it" factor, which every NFL and college football fan qualitatively knows it when they see it. It manifests as a confidence that even when we've been punched in the face, we can't wait to see our QB get the ball back and do something positive with it.)

 

[mavgriz]

It depends. I wonder, if these young guys are supposed to light it up, why they didn't play last year. I mean if they are better than the people they are replacing, then why not play them. I do realize more years in a program do make kids better.

Probably because it makes more sense to not have 8-10 freshman all playing when you can give them a year to develop while still potentially making the playoffs..... make no mistake, the griz have young talent that we havent seen in a decade with this program

But last year, we were going to succeed because we had a talented roster and "lots of battle-tested kids returning," right? What happened to them?

BadlandsGrizFan » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:40 pm
1. Griz- We got another year under Stitt's system, hes got HIS guy at D coordinator. Talented roster, lots of battle tested kids returning.

griz5700 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:57 pm
And . . . . the Griz go back to dominating this weak ass conference.

brewskis » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:03 am ...if the Griz don't win it we will have had some serious blunders.

At some point, just saying the same things, over and over, year after year, offering the same hyperbolic predictions at the beginning of the season and the same sorry excuses at the end ... :roll:

That's when egriz became Bobcat Nation. And those are some of the guys that did it.

I hope the Griz do well, but it won't be because some of these posters have any idea what they are talking about.

For all the pontificating now about Griz "youth" and "freshman," we were beaten by a first year coach, playing a team that collectively barely had their driver's licenses, in our "house," before which our Coach was seriously trying to argue that we had fielded such an excellent team with such superb coaching this season that we actually had had a 10-1 or 9-2 season, if some of the games had just had different final scores.

Nothing about what you pointed out from my previous posts tears down the statement I made???

We did have a lot of battle tested kids...we also had a lot of young talent....

Good attempt at making an argument tho douche bag.

Stitt Happened!

 

[grizeyes]

The way we are trending, no. However, I hope I am wrong and BS and the boys get the train back on the tracks!

GO GRIZ!

 

[UMGriz75]

Nothing about what you pointed out from my previous posts tears down the statement I made???
Good attempt at making an argument tho douche bag.

Let's see, "Douche," -- see how that works? -- you predicted that the Griz would be No. 1 because we had "battle tested kids" and "good young talent."

So, you think we ended up No. 1, eh?

When I get to the point of saying there is something just plain wrong with some posters, it's beyond passing jabs. There are full-on delusional people posting, every year, the same false baloney. They aren't even talking about the Griz. They are talking about Fantasy Football and they simply named their mythical team "the Griz."

News Flash. Despite the pomposity of your analysis and the arrogance of your predictions, we did NOT end up No. 1 in the Conference last year.

Now, curl up in a ball and go lay in a corner somewhere and whimper.

 

[dayday]

I kind of want to see what the team looks like in spring ball, fall camp and probably that first game before I make any kind of prediction. Too many unknowns. I think the frustration of last year has everyone at least skeptical. I do believe we have a talented team that can probably beat anyone (except maybe Udub) on the schedule any given day so I'm cautiously optimistic.


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[BadlandsGrizFan]

Nothing about what you pointed out from my previous posts tears down the statement I made???
Good attempt at making an argument tho douche bag.

Let's see, "Douche," -- see how that works? -- you predicted that the Griz would be No. 1 because we had "battle tested kids" and "good young talent."

So, you think we ended up No. 1, eh?

When I get to the point of saying there is something just plain wrong with some posters, it's beyond passing jabs. There are full-on delusional people posting, every year, the same false baloney. They aren't even talking about the Griz. They are talking about Fantasy Football and they simply named their mythical team "the Griz."

News Flash. Despite the pomposity of your analysis and the arrogance of your predictions, we did NOT end up No. 1 in the Conference last year.

Now, curl up in a ball and go lay in a corner somewhere and whimper.

Sooo because I was optimistic because we had good returning talent, and now I'm optimistic because we have good young talent theres something wrong with me???

I say we start off the new year fresh and get rid of dbags like 75... I know a majority of Egriz would get behind that idea!

 

[AlphaRep1]

75 is right, why get rid of a poster that tells it like it is?

Instead of all these delusional posters hoping and praying we are better why not just admit we don't have the talent to compete in the Big Sky let alone agaimst the top teams?

The majority of people on here are clueless when it comes to judging talent. Players or posters

 

[behappp]

I think if we play the entire season the way we played against St. Francis and Northern Iowa this year, we have the poetential to be one of the top teams in the country. The only loss on the current schedule that I see is Washington. We can beat everybody else

We can beat everyone else. The key word is "can." We could have been a 9-2 or 10-1 team this year.
But we weren't.

Too many times we weren't in the right positions on defense, we didn't make the correct in-game or halftime adjustments. We were below average on special teams. And we were what our record said we were - 2 games below .500 in BSC play.

We have good players, high quality students and young men. I believe the whole staff has done a good job at recruiting. But I don't think that Stitt and Semore were ready to move up to FCS. But because of of our great recruits and favorable home schedule, I think we could squeek into the playoffs and maybe have 1 home game in the playoffs ala when we played San Diego 2 years ago.

 

[UMGriz75]

Sooo because I was optimistic because we had good returning talent, and now I'm optimistic because we have good young talent theres something wrong with me???

It's probably your penchant for calling anyone that disagrees with you a "douchebag" that triggers.

The fact is, you predicted number one ranking this year, and called me all manner of names for daring to suggest, last year, that I had doubts that DII coaches could move up to DI offense, DI defense, or coach DI talent, based on their middling fourth place in conference wins at the DII level over the past 15 years. But any statistical argument to that effect, your standard response was personal insult. Nothing to discuss.

Then, after trashing anybody else's predictive capabilities, you ventured your own based on "battle tested kids." We would be No. 1. OK, what happened to the "battle-tested kids?" What happened to every single reason you offered? I am wondering, rather than be burdened with another set of made-up rationalizations why, based on last year's completely wrong analysis, you think this year's could possibly be any better? A gambling man would be better off betting the opposite of your picks.

To me, people like you are interesting in a sports context. You seem to have no self-reflection about the blatant mistakes you make, but no qualms about making them over and over again, apparently trying to persuade someone out in egriz land that you know something about football or the Grizzlies. After reading endless reams of your wrong predictions, I'd like to just cut to the chase: what is it?

It's not about optimism; that's a necessary ingredient in successful sports. But standing on the deck of the Titanic observing that it's an icecube not an iceberg isn't "optimism." It's insanity.

I'm genuinely interested in why the people that made such failed predictions for this past Fall are so anxious to repeat virtually the same failed predictions. I'm curious as to their genuine sense of "what went wrong," and it doesn't help when the same ones that claimed we would win because we had "battle-tested kids," will win next Fall because we have ... "even morer battle-tested kids?"

Why would you think that's the problem? How then did an even younger team, without an NFL level QB, beat us our last game of the season? Now that's an analysis I'd like to see from posters like you ....

As the Old Man said, if you can't say what went wrong, how can you say what will make it go right?

 

[Paytonlives]

Gave out a few warnings on this one already. Please get back on subject and end the verbal abuse... IE clean it up...

 

[Igotgoodsources]

So how long have 75 and Badlands been dating?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Sooo because I was optimistic because we had good returning talent, and now I'm optimistic because we have good young talent theres something wrong with me???

It's probably your penchant for calling anyone that disagrees with you a "douchebag" that triggers.

The fact is, you predicted number one ranking this year, and called me all manner of names for daring to suggest, last year, that I had doubts that DII coaches could move up to DI offense, DI defense, or coach DI talent, based on their middling fourth place in conference wins at the DII level over the past 15 years. But any statistical argument to that effect, your standard response was personal insult. Nothing to discuss.

Then, after trashing anybody else's predictive capabilities, you ventured your own based on "battle tested kids." We would be No. 1. OK, what happened to the "battle-tested kids?" What happened to every single reason you offered? I am wondering, rather than be burdened with another set of made-up rationalizations why, based on last year's completely wrong analysis, you think this year's could possibly be any better? A gambling man would be better off betting the opposite of your picks.

To me, people like you are interesting in a sports context. You seem to have no self-reflection about the blatant mistakes you make, but no qualms about making them over and over again, apparently trying to persuade someone out in egriz land that you know something about football or the Grizzlies. After reading endless reams of your wrong predictions, I'd like to just cut to the chase: what is it?

It's not about optimism; that's a necessary ingredient in successful sports. But standing on the deck of the Titanic observing that it's an icecube not an iceberg isn't "optimism." It's insanity.

I'm genuinely interested in why the people that made such failed predictions for this past Fall are so anxious to repeat virtually the same failed predictions. I'm curious as to their genuine sense of "what went wrong," and it doesn't help when the same ones that claimed we would win because we had "battle-tested kids," will win next Fall because we have ... "even morer battle-tested kids?"

Why would you think that's the problem? How then did an even younger team, without an NFL level QB, beat us our last game of the season? Now that's an analysis I'd like to see from posters like you ....

As the Old Man said, if you can't say what went wrong, how can you say what will make it go right?

Im sure you've already wrote a book on the matter.

 

[rocklobster]

I feel optimistic about next year. It was tough to watch toward the end of the season, but there's a lot of talent-young, raw talent, but talent! Tons of team speed, and big online. If we can get some good QB play, it'll be great! Still like to see a true OC, but Stitt's ego won't allow it. I'm not a great judge of talent like 75 and Alpha Rep, and they're skeptical every year! Mainly because, if it happens that the Griz don't reach lofty expectations, they can say, "I TOLD YOU SO." Its a trap every time, and their posts are truly for entertainment purposes. I expect an insult on my knowledge of what I posted, but if you don't respect the poster, it doesn't really matter.. I'm a Griz fan, and will say every year, "This is the year!" That's what fans do, no matter what the circumstance. GO GRIZ!