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Will this be the year?

I think our young WRs are going to impress this season. In fact, I'm surprised that folks are doubting our wide receiver play. We know that we should be just as strong or stronger at H/IR with Horner, Ralston, and Bingham. Z is going to be in MUCH better hands with Louie McGee and Lyons. Eaton and Homan had good springs, Curran was quieter but is coming off an injury, and then throw in Lane Hovey and Justin Calhoun. We may be young, but we from top to bottom more talented than last fall.

Depth at corner and OL are the two things really holding us back IMO.
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
The "huge drop off in receivers" is only an unknown. We don't KNOW if there's going to be a huge drop off. This crop could actually be better. time will tell.

You may not know, but many people who went to scrimmages and practices and asked around do. While there are some new guys with nice potential, here and coming, the fact remains that they don't come close to measuring up to how Jones, Henderson, Roberts and others performed last season. Maybe someday, but not next fall. Jeez, look at how many of the top 7 or 8 receivers from last fall are no longer here. Almost all of them. There is one good returning starter. Now tell us who is going to approach being as good as Jones, Henderson and Roberts.

Okay, coach. Tell me Nostradamus, did you KNOW how good Roberts was going to be before he played in an actual game?

Yes, I actually believed that Roberts was going to be a good, and probably very good, receiver, probably at the FBS level, when he was still in high school. I assumed that he would play college football, and was surprised that he chose baseball. He was very athletic, big, fast and had terrific hands. I was following Sentinel athletics and football closely at the time, as I had one kid, an athlete, a bit older than Roberts, and another, an athlete, a bit younger. When he decided to come back to football at UM, I thought he could be a very good receiver, as soon as he could get the rust off and assuming that he could adapt quickly to the contact at the college level. Coaches told me the same thing. Had he played spring ball, everyone would have seen his talent. While he was good in fall ball, it took only his first catch for the TD against NDSU to see his talent. My biggest concern was that he was playing outside receiver behind Jones and Henderson, and I didn't think the coaches would sit those guys to give lots of plays to Roberts. Also, there were 2 good big inside receivers and a starting small one. I didn't realize that a spot could be made for Roberts on the inside, as I didn't have a good enough understanding of the new Griz offense. To me, it was just a matter of time, but again I didn't think the coaches would take too many plays from Jones/Henderson. Roberts had a terrific year. 2d in receptions, 6th in average per catch, about 10 compared to over 16 for each of Jones and Henderson, and averaged about 50 yards per game. 3d in TD's.

Okay, your turn. Which 3 UM receivers will be better than Jones, Henderson and Roberts this fall? Note the term "better", which is not good or pretty good.

Athletic, big, fast and terrific hands. That describes about 10 of our current receivers. And for most of them it was against much better competition than Roberts faced in HS. So by that standard you should be drooling over the current crop. They may not be better than Jones or Henderson or Roberts individually (yet), but as a GROUP, I think our receivers are deeper than last year....plus, with a full year in the system under their belts, I believe the REST of the offense has the ability to make our receivers look even better (and Brady better, for that matter). So, while we may not have one or two stand out like Hendu or Jones, I think the group performs better overall...just my two cents.
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
You may not know, but many people who went to scrimmages and practices and asked around do. While there are some new guys with nice potential, here and coming, the fact remains that they don't come close to measuring up to how Jones, Henderson, Roberts and others performed last season. Maybe someday, but not next fall. Jeez, look at how many of the top 7 or 8 receivers from last fall are no longer here. Almost all of them. There is one good returning starter. Now tell us who is going to approach being as good as Jones, Henderson and Roberts.

Okay, coach. Tell me Nostradamus, did you KNOW how good Roberts was going to be before he played in an actual game?

Yes, I actually believed that Roberts was going to be a good, and probably very good, receiver, probably at the FBS level, when he was still in high school. I assumed that he would play college football, and was surprised that he chose baseball. He was very athletic, big, fast and had terrific hands. I was following Sentinel athletics and football closely at the time, as I had one kid, an athlete, a bit older than Roberts, and another, an athlete, a bit younger. When he decided to come back to football at UM, I thought he could be a very good receiver, as soon as he could get the rust off and assuming that he could adapt quickly to the contact at the college level. Coaches told me the same thing. Had he played spring ball, everyone would have seen his talent. While he was good in fall ball, it took only his first catch for the TD against NDSU to see his talent. My biggest concern was that he was playing outside receiver behind Jones and Henderson, and I didn't think the coaches would sit those guys to give lots of plays to Roberts. Also, there were 2 good big inside receivers and a starting small one. I didn't realize that a spot could be made for Roberts on the inside, as I didn't have a good enough understanding of the new Griz offense. To me, it was just a matter of time, but again I didn't think the coaches would take too many plays from Jones/Henderson. Roberts had a terrific year. 2d in receptions, 6th in average per catch, about 10 compared to over 16 for each of Jones and Henderson, and averaged about 50 yards per game. 3d in TD's.

Okay, your turn. Which 3 UM receivers will be better than Jones, Henderson and Roberts this fall? Note the term "better", which is not good or pretty good.

Athletic, big, fast and terrific hands. That describes about 10 of our current receivers. And for most of them it was against much better competition than Roberts faced in HS. So by that standard you should be drooling over the current crop. They may not be better than Jones or Henderson or Roberts individually (yet), but as a GROUP, I think our receivers are deeper than last year....plus, with a full year in the system under their belts, I believe the REST of the offense has the ability to make our receivers look even better (and Brady better, for that matter). So, while we may not have one or two stand out like Hendu or Jones, I think the group performs better overall...just my two cents.

I hope you are right--even though I know you aren't. "I think our receivers are deeper than last year." AZ, I like you and your posts, but that is one of the dumbest things you have ever said on egriz. And, you obviously don't know how much that the speed, ability and accomplishments/reputation of Henderson and Jones influenced defenses last year, and opened up things for inside receivers. The Neb. transfer will be good and a big help. Hovey is his name, I think. Anybody who thinks UM's receivers will be as good as last year's receivers, truly doesn't have a clue. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
Your offense will still be bottom half of the BSC and your defense will take a step back. Your cupcake schedule will inflate your stats and w/l, but you will still fold like a wet paper towel when it counts. Basically like 2015 but worse.
 
doc3kgt said:
Your offense will still be bottom half of the BSC and your defense will take a step back. Your cupcake schedule will inflate your stats and w/l, but you will still fold like a wet paper towel when it counts. Basically like 2015 but worse.
Why are you bringing 'Cat predictions to the Griz board?

Seriously, "folding like a wet paper towel when it counts?"

Wombats being the number one ranked team at the beginning of the 2015 season? Coach and staff fired at the end of 2015 season? Followed by AD?

That gave "folding" a whole new level.
 
Lets face it when your team is low with little chance to improve the fans from that team get a thin gel coat when they post on the Kings board. That would be doc3kgt...
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
Okay, coach. Tell me Nostradamus, did you KNOW how good Roberts was going to be before he played in an actual game?

Yes, I actually believed that Roberts was going to be a good, and probably very good, receiver, probably at the FBS level, when he was still in high school. I assumed that he would play college football, and was surprised that he chose baseball. He was very athletic, big, fast and had terrific hands. I was following Sentinel athletics and football closely at the time, as I had one kid, an athlete, a bit older than Roberts, and another, an athlete, a bit younger. When he decided to come back to football at UM, I thought he could be a very good receiver, as soon as he could get the rust off and assuming that he could adapt quickly to the contact at the college level. Coaches told me the same thing. Had he played spring ball, everyone would have seen his talent. While he was good in fall ball, it took only his first catch for the TD against NDSU to see his talent. My biggest concern was that he was playing outside receiver behind Jones and Henderson, and I didn't think the coaches would sit those guys to give lots of plays to Roberts. Also, there were 2 good big inside receivers and a starting small one. I didn't realize that a spot could be made for Roberts on the inside, as I didn't have a good enough understanding of the new Griz offense. To me, it was just a matter of time, but again I didn't think the coaches would take too many plays from Jones/Henderson. Roberts had a terrific year. 2d in receptions, 6th in average per catch, about 10 compared to over 16 for each of Jones and Henderson, and averaged about 50 yards per game. 3d in TD's.

Okay, your turn. Which 3 UM receivers will be better than Jones, Henderson and Roberts this fall? Note the term "better", which is not good or pretty good.

Athletic, big, fast and terrific hands. That describes about 10 of our current receivers. And for most of them it was against much better competition than Roberts faced in HS. So by that standard you should be drooling over the current crop. They may not be better than Jones or Henderson or Roberts individually (yet), but as a GROUP, I think our receivers are deeper than last year....plus, with a full year in the system under their belts, I believe the REST of the offense has the ability to make our receivers look even better (and Brady better, for that matter). So, while we may not have one or two stand out like Hendu or Jones, I think the group performs better overall...just my two cents.

I hope you are right--even though I know you aren't. "I think our receivers are deeper than last year." AZ, I like you and your posts, but that is one of the dumbest things you have ever said on egriz. And, you obviously don't know how much that the speed, ability and accomplishments/reputation of Henderson and Jones influenced defenses last year, and opened up things for inside receivers. The Neb. transfer will be good and a big help. Hovey is his name, I think. Anybody who thinks UM's receivers will be as good as last year's receivers, truly doesn't have a clue. Sorry to burst your bubble.
We'll never replace Tripp and Coyle either.

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PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
Okay, coach. Tell me Nostradamus, did you KNOW how good Roberts was going to be before he played in an actual game?

Yes, I actually believed that Roberts was going to be a good, and probably very good, receiver, probably at the FBS level, when he was still in high school. I assumed that he would play college football, and was surprised that he chose baseball. He was very athletic, big, fast and had terrific hands. I was following Sentinel athletics and football closely at the time, as I had one kid, an athlete, a bit older than Roberts, and another, an athlete, a bit younger. When he decided to come back to football at UM, I thought he could be a very good receiver, as soon as he could get the rust off and assuming that he could adapt quickly to the contact at the college level. Coaches told me the same thing. Had he played spring ball, everyone would have seen his talent. While he was good in fall ball, it took only his first catch for the TD against NDSU to see his talent. My biggest concern was that he was playing outside receiver behind Jones and Henderson, and I didn't think the coaches would sit those guys to give lots of plays to Roberts. Also, there were 2 good big inside receivers and a starting small one. I didn't realize that a spot could be made for Roberts on the inside, as I didn't have a good enough understanding of the new Griz offense. To me, it was just a matter of time, but again I didn't think the coaches would take too many plays from Jones/Henderson. Roberts had a terrific year. 2d in receptions, 6th in average per catch, about 10 compared to over 16 for each of Jones and Henderson, and averaged about 50 yards per game. 3d in TD's.

Okay, your turn. Which 3 UM receivers will be better than Jones, Henderson and Roberts this fall? Note the term "better", which is not good or pretty good.

Athletic, big, fast and terrific hands. That describes about 10 of our current receivers. And for most of them it was against much better competition than Roberts faced in HS. So by that standard you should be drooling over the current crop. They may not be better than Jones or Henderson or Roberts individually (yet), but as a GROUP, I think our receivers are deeper than last year....plus, with a full year in the system under their belts, I believe the REST of the offense has the ability to make our receivers look even better (and Brady better, for that matter). So, while we may not have one or two stand out like Hendu or Jones, I think the group performs better overall...just my two cents.

I hope you are right--even though I know you aren't. "I think our receivers are deeper than last year." AZ, I like you and your posts, but that is one of the dumbest things you have ever said on egriz. And, you obviously don't know how much that the speed, ability and accomplishments/reputation of Henderson and Jones influenced defenses last year, and opened up things for inside receivers. The Neb. transfer will be good and a big help. Hovey is his name, I think. Anybody who thinks UM's receivers will be as good as last year's receivers, truly doesn't have a clue. Sorry to burst your bubble.

By my fading recollections, virtually every one of our premier receivers, Jones, Henderson, Mariani, Talmadge, Wells, Douglas, Sambrano etc, had their breakout or discovery years when catching from a first class pitcher. This crop will be only as good (and the stars will "emerge") as the QB's throwing them the ball. Does anybody else remember the hallmark of Jones' first year? Dropping balls in his hands while wide open? That doesn't seem to be an issue with this crop of receivers but only real game time will tell. QB's and o-line willing, by the end of the season this class as a group could equal or surpass last years' receivers in catches, yards and TD's. The studs/favorite targets will emerge, and I foresee a good chance these receivers, 2-deep at each position, will be running Stitt's offense equal to or better than Hendo, Jones and Roberts crew's 2-deeps by playoff time.

But PR, when you say things like this, I have to take your challenge, to see if this is one of the "dumbest things" said on eGriz, and be sure to tell Stitt this week you think his receiver corps' depth sucks compared to last year, and that in your opinion he "truly doesn't have a clue." I'll have a dB meter handy to measure the volume of his laughter.
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
Okay, coach. Tell me Nostradamus, did you KNOW how good Roberts was going to be before he played in an actual game?

Yes, I actually believed that Roberts was going to be a good, and probably very good, receiver, probably at the FBS level, when he was still in high school. I assumed that he would play college football, and was surprised that he chose baseball. He was very athletic, big, fast and had terrific hands. I was following Sentinel athletics and football closely at the time, as I had one kid, an athlete, a bit older than Roberts, and another, an athlete, a bit younger. When he decided to come back to football at UM, I thought he could be a very good receiver, as soon as he could get the rust off and assuming that he could adapt quickly to the contact at the college level. Coaches told me the same thing. Had he played spring ball, everyone would have seen his talent. While he was good in fall ball, it took only his first catch for the TD against NDSU to see his talent. My biggest concern was that he was playing outside receiver behind Jones and Henderson, and I didn't think the coaches would sit those guys to give lots of plays to Roberts. Also, there were 2 good big inside receivers and a starting small one. I didn't realize that a spot could be made for Roberts on the inside, as I didn't have a good enough understanding of the new Griz offense. To me, it was just a matter of time, but again I didn't think the coaches would take too many plays from Jones/Henderson. Roberts had a terrific year. 2d in receptions, 6th in average per catch, about 10 compared to over 16 for each of Jones and Henderson, and averaged about 50 yards per game. 3d in TD's.

Okay, your turn. Which 3 UM receivers will be better than Jones, Henderson and Roberts this fall? Note the term "better", which is not good or pretty good.

Athletic, big, fast and terrific hands. That describes about 10 of our current receivers. And for most of them it was against much better competition than Roberts faced in HS. So by that standard you should be drooling over the current crop. They may not be better than Jones or Henderson or Roberts individually (yet), but as a GROUP, I think our receivers are deeper than last year....plus, with a full year in the system under their belts, I believe the REST of the offense has the ability to make our receivers look even better (and Brady better, for that matter). So, while we may not have one or two stand out like Hendu or Jones, I think the group performs better overall...just my two cents.

I hope you are right--even though I know you aren't. "I think our receivers are deeper than last year." AZ, I like you and your posts, but that is one of the dumbest things you have ever said on egriz. And, you obviously don't know how much that the speed, ability and accomplishments/reputation of Henderson and Jones influenced defenses last year, and opened up things for inside receivers. The Neb. transfer will be good and a big help. Hovey is his name, I think. Anybody who thinks UM's receivers will be as good as last year's receivers, truly doesn't have a clue. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Last year we had Jones, Hendu and Roberts. BIG fall off after that. I don't think defenses will be able to key on one or two receivers this year. I think, AS A GROUP, our receivers will perform better. I guess time will tell. But feel free to bookmark this post for future reference when I'm right.
 
PlayerRep said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
You may not know, but many people who went to scrimmages and practices and asked around do. While there are some new guys with nice potential, here and coming, the fact remains that they don't come close to measuring up to how Jones, Henderson, Roberts and others performed last season. Maybe someday, but not next fall. Jeez, look at how many of the top 7 or 8 receivers from last fall are no longer here. Almost all of them. There is one good returning starter. Now tell us who is going to approach being as good as Jones, Henderson and Roberts.

Okay, coach. Tell me Nostradamus, did you KNOW how good Roberts was going to be before he played in an actual game?
I did and I commented on it the day before he committed

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Yes, you were way ahead of Growler on this one (and almost everything else). Even giving Growler credit for his exaggerations and things that he didn't say about Roberts, but now claims he did, you were way ahead of Growler. But Growler was ahead of the pack on this one generally, so, but for his exaggerations, he deserves some credit.

I don't claim anything that i didn't actually say. I stated when Roberts was signed that he would start, and would have the best hands among the WRs. The posts are there, and anyone can check 'em out.
 
BWahlberg said:
getgrizzy said:
When you win 12 straight conference championships and 15 out of 17, but then follow it with 0 in 6 years you have to start wondering when the next one will happen. I think we have a shot this year, but a lot of teams do.

IMO I see EWU and NAU as the top two contenders with UM, PSU, and UND in the mix. UND's schedule is VERY favorable for them. Poly, Weber, and MSU I wouldn't count out either.

I was also thinking Eastern Washington will probably bounce back this year, but then I looked at their schedule and it is pretty brutal. They are on the road against Washington state, North Dakota State, Cal poly, Montana State, Portland State, and Northern Arizona. Add in the grizzlies and northern Iowa for home games and they may very well have one of the tougher schedules in all of the FCS. Will be interesting to see how it plays out for them. One can easily see 5 losses on that schedule.
 
HookedonGriz said:
BWahlberg said:
getgrizzy said:
When you win 12 straight conference championships and 15 out of 17, but then follow it with 0 in 6 years you have to start wondering when the next one will happen. I think we have a shot this year, but a lot of teams do.

IMO I see EWU and NAU as the top two contenders with UM, PSU, and UND in the mix. UND's schedule is VERY favorable for them. Poly, Weber, and MSU I wouldn't count out either.

I was also thinking Eastern Washington will probably bounce back this year, but then I looked at their schedule and it is pretty brutal. They are on the road against Washington state, North Dakota State, Cal poly, Montana State, Portland State, and Northern Arizona. Add in the grizzlies and northern Iowa for home games and they may very well have one of the tougher schedules in all of the FCS. Will be interesting to see how it plays out for them. One can easily see 5 losses on that schedule.

Agreed, I just think EWU could be a sneaky good team if their mobile QB Hennessey can stay healthy and get on page with their very dangerous corps of WRs.
 
This will be the year Griz Nation realizes they should have hired Hauck because they're going to be disappointed after the season. I can't wait to see the look on all your faces. GET YOUR CAMERAS READY.
 
BWahlberg said:
HookedonGriz said:
BWahlberg said:
getgrizzy said:
When you win 12 straight conference championships and 15 out of 17, but then follow it with 0 in 6 years you have to start wondering when the next one will happen. I think we have a shot this year, but a lot of teams do.

IMO I see EWU and NAU as the top two contenders with UM, PSU, and UND in the mix. UND's schedule is VERY favorable for them. Poly, Weber, and MSU I wouldn't count out either.

I was also thinking Eastern Washington will probably bounce back this year, but then I looked at their schedule and it is pretty brutal. They are on the road against Washington state, North Dakota State, Cal poly, Montana State, Portland State, and Northern Arizona. Add in the grizzlies and northern Iowa for home games and they may very well have one of the tougher schedules in all of the FCS. Will be interesting to see how it plays out for them. One can easily see 5 losses on that schedule.

Agreed, I just think EWU could be a sneaky good team if their mobile QB Hennessey can stay healthy and get on page with their very dangerous corps of WRs.

I'd add that a wildcard is EWU's defense. If they maintain the status quo, they will be having to keep winning shootouts.
 
BWahlberg said:
HookedonGriz said:
BWahlberg said:
getgrizzy said:
When you win 12 straight conference championships and 15 out of 17, but then follow it with 0 in 6 years you have to start wondering when the next one will happen. I think we have a shot this year, but a lot of teams do.

IMO I see EWU and NAU as the top two contenders with UM, PSU, and UND in the mix. UND's schedule is VERY favorable for them. Poly, Weber, and MSU I wouldn't count out either.

I was also thinking Eastern Washington will probably bounce back this year, but then I looked at their schedule and it is pretty brutal. They are on the road against Washington state, North Dakota State, Cal poly, Montana State, Portland State, and Northern Arizona. Add in the grizzlies and northern Iowa for home games and they may very well have one of the tougher schedules in all of the FCS. Will be interesting to see how it plays out for them. One can easily see 5 losses on that schedule.

Agreed, I just think EWU could be a sneaky good team if their mobile QB Hennessey can stay healthy and get on page with their very dangerous corps of WRs.

Agree a guy like Hennesey can be an X-factor (big play VA comes to mind). But what's even more crazy is word out of the Eagles camp is that Hennesey will be backing up starting QB Gage Gubrud. That kid must be good if that's true
 
Gubrud sure didn't look good in WaGriz last year but I know he was thrust into starting while both of their other QBs were hurt.
 
BWahlberg said:
Gubrud sure didn't look good in WaGriz last year but I know he was thrust into starting while both of their other QBs were hurt.

I agree he looked downright lost but then again so did that entire Eagles team that day..... it was a glorious day :)
 
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