• Hi Guest, want to participate in the discussions, keep track of read/unread posts access private forums and more? Create your free account and increase the benefits of your eGriz.com experience today!

Will NCAA BBall tourney go to 128 teams???

Paytonlives

Moderator
Staff member
I say if you go to 128 You might as well put them all in.

Updated: June 25, 2006, 4:01 PM ET
Field of 128? Coaches want NCAA tourney expandedAssociated Press


INDIANAPOLIS -- In a perfect world, college basketball coaches would nearly double the size of the 65-team NCAA men's tournament field. Realistically, they'd accept a smaller victory.

The number of Division I teams has increased significantly since the last major expansion more than two decades ago. The field went from 48 to 64 teams in 1985, then added a 65th team to the field in 2001 when the number of automatic bids went from 30 to 31.

Motivated in part by George Mason's remarkable Final Four run last season, coaches will urge the NCAA to expand its most lucrative championship event during the men's and women's basketball committee meetings in Orlando, Fla., this week.

"They'd love to see the tournament double to 128," said Jim Haney, executive director of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. "It's based on several things. First, there are a lot of good teams worthy of making the NCAA field, and second, the size of 64 or 65 has been in place for a number of years."

Potential models range from minor adjustments to major changes.

When Haney met with NCAA officials last month, he proposed the 128-team field in part because postseason bids may help coaches keep their jobs.

At this year's Final Four, though, Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim said he supported expansion on a smaller scale. Boeheim and others suggested adding three to seven teams, a move they claimed would allow as many as four opening-round games to be played in Dayton, Ohio, instead of the one now played between the two lowest-seeded teams in the field.

Some believe such a schedule would create a more realistic tournament environment since first-round sites also play four games on the first day.

But changes don't appear imminent.

In March, NCAA president Myles Brand said he didn't see much support to expand the field and vice president for men's basketball Greg Shaheen reiterated that point Friday.

"Many, many people believe the size of the championship is just right," Shaheen said. "A lot of people think there's enough recognition of teams that did well and there's a logical and timely conclusion to the season."

Shaheen said this week's discussions, which end Thursday, will mark the first time expansion has been on the agenda in several years. The reason?

After a four-year legal battle with the National Invitation Tournament, the NCAA agreed to buy the tournament for $56.5 million last August.

Expansion also faces additional hurdles.

If the NCAA opted for a 128-team field, the number of first-round sites would double and an extra week of play would likely be added. Plus, Shaheen said the NCAA would have to debate how best to provide maximum television coverage.

Shaheen said changes would also have to be made in conjunction with the women's tournament.

"There is no one model that is obvious here, and that's something we need to contemplate," he said. "The other issue is how the women's tournament would be similarly impacted here and they need to coincide."

The coaches, however, contend there are many reasons to expand. Among their arguments:

• The number of Division I teams has increased significantly since the last major expansion more than two decades ago. The field went from 48 to 64 teams in 1985, then added a 65th team to the field in 2001 when the number of automatic bids went from 30 to 31.

• George Mason, which was one of the last at-large teams to make the field this year, proved parity in college basketball is real. The combination of prominent programs losing underclassmen at faster rates and scholarship reductions have helped mid-major schools become more competitive. The coaches believe they deserved to be rewarded accordingly.

• Now that the NCAA controls both postseason tournaments, coaches think it's time to include some of the bubble teams that annually complain when they are left out.

Could it happen?

"I don't think the idea of doubling the field is going to happen right now because there are too many complications to do that," Haney said. "But I think the committee will seriously consider what the number will be. ... I think if it happens, it will have to happen soon because of the logistical issues."


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2500025
 
It seems like a lot, but there are a ton of D-I teams. I think eveybody knows that we deserved to be in the tournament last year, but we almost didn't even make it. If Stuckey makes that last shot, we almost didn't even make it to the Big Sky Championship game.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
It seems like a lot, but there are a ton of D-I teams. I think eveybody knows that we deserved to be in the tournament last year, but we almost didn't even make it. If Stuckey makes that last shot, we almost didn't even make it to the Big Sky Championship game.

Yeah of course but that might be the case but you cant tell me that Farleigh Dickenson deservs a bid over say a Maryland or a Michigan or a Notre Dame for that matter....
 
If a number 16 seed has NEVER beaten a No. #1 seed in the history of the NCAA tournament then just how much more difficult will it be for a No. #32 to do so?

How about a final score of 120 - 15 or so? Just so coaches can keep their jobs by saying that AT LEAST we got our team to the 'Big Dance' now didn't we? Hell, we haven't even gotten through one season yet that allows a 29 game regular season, now they want 128 teams for at least a seven round tournament? The NIT will probably just luv that scenerio. But of course, who cares about that? All you can do is say we're No. #65 if you ever win it. Or is it No.# 66 now since they allow a play-in of a 64 against a 65? Oh oh, one of those six combinations showing up. Don't want to be born on 06/06/06 either now do we?

Oops, sorry, the separation of church and state seemingly applies to a study of the history of Europe (after the barbarian hordes, that is) compounding that with the struggle of the separation of politics & economics (citing Talbot Mundy's 1923 novel called 'The Nine Unknown;' political economics the religion of the west, that is) that graces the history of the western hemisphere, etc. etc. etc. Which is like saying Fortune 500 CEO's have got the Mark of the Beast upon their brows like it's a dollar sign ($). Oh well, just rambling again.
 
Until 16's get some wins over 1's then it really doesn't seem necessary.

BUT. . . If Stuckey did make that last shot, we wouldn't have even gone, and most Griz fans would have a different oppinion. It would have been hard to watch NAU or EWU get worked by a 1 or 2 seed and wonder what could have been if we made it.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
Until 16's get some wins over 1's then it really doesn't seem necessary.

BUT. . . If Stuckey did make that last shot, we wouldn't have even gone, and most Griz fans would have a different oppinion. It would have been hard to watch NAU or EWU get worked by a 1 or 2 seed and wonder what could have been if we made it.

BUT. . . If we didnt choke away a big lead in the 2nd half Stuckey would of never had the opporunity to miss that shot.
 
Back
Top