Will Jordan Stay?

[gotgame75]

In an article I just read on Fox Sports, Kent Haslam states that Johnson now has the right to appeal his removal from the team due to a "change in circumstances" but that he hasn't yet had contact with Johnson.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...na-qb-jordan-johnson-acquitted-of-rape-030113

JJ could've already left if he really wanted to....sure, he had to come back to town for the trial, but was there any legal reason he had to stay in Missoula? And he has remained in school. I would like to think that that means he is planning on staying here and pursuing reinstatement to the football team. One thing that became clear during the trial is that he has a close relationship to his teammates and some of the coaches. I would imagine they will be lobbying him to come back.

Haslam and Gee are on the committee overseeing such appeals. Is believed to be a formality without intervention by RE. Could be done in time for spring ball.

Does it even really matter if he is reinstated by Spring Ball? Since he isn't school this semester, would he even be eligible to practice this Spring anyway?

 

[SouthDakotaGrizzly]

Just watched the TV interview with Jordy's uncle. When asked if JJ would return to football, his uncle said that his impression was that that was the plan all along, then added that Montana would be lucky to have him and that he hopes he does come back. But he also said that the family hasn't really talked about it.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

In an article I just read on Fox Sports, Kent Haslam states that Johnson now has the right to appeal his removal from the team due to a "change in circumstances" but that he hasn't yet had contact with Johnson.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...na-qb-jordan-johnson-acquitted-of-rape-030113

JJ could've already left if he really wanted to....sure, he had to come back to town for the trial, but was there any legal reason he had to stay in Missoula? And he has remained in school. I would like to think that that means he is planning on staying here and pursuing reinstatement to the football team. One thing that became clear during the trial is that he has a close relationship to his teammates and some of the coaches. I would imagine they will be lobbying him to come back.

Haslam and Gee are on the committee overseeing such appeals. Is believed to be a formality without intervention by RE. Could be done in time for spring ball.

Does it even really matter if he is reinstated by Spring Ball? Since he isn't school this semester, would he even be eligible to practice this Spring anyway?

umm, pretty sure he has been in school this semester. All he has to do is maintain 12 credits.

 

[kemajic]

In an article I just read on Fox Sports, Kent Haslam states that Johnson now has the right to appeal his removal from the team due to a "change in circumstances" but that he hasn't yet had contact with Johnson.

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...na-qb-jordan-johnson-acquitted-of-rape-030113

JJ could've already left if he really wanted to....sure, he had to come back to town for the trial, but was there any legal reason he had to stay in Missoula? And he has remained in school. I would like to think that that means he is planning on staying here and pursuing reinstatement to the football team. One thing that became clear during the trial is that he has a close relationship to his teammates and some of the coaches. I would imagine they will be lobbying him to come back.

Haslam and Gee are on the committee overseeing such appeals. Is believed to be a formality without intervention by RE. Could be done in time for spring ball.

Does it even really matter if he is reinstated by Spring Ball? Since he isn't school this semester, would he even be eligible to practice this Spring anyway?

umm, pretty sure he has been in school this semester. All he has to do is maintain 12 credits.

Not to mention, still on FB scholarship.

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

Easiest way to think about the whole redshirt/transfer thing is how Kem broke it down. You have a span of 5 consecutive years to play 4 years. So, play 2 years, redshirt, play 2 more years, whatever, any combo. Play 3 years, redshirt, play final year; most common is: redshirt, play 4 years.

His last full season was his sophomore season. So if he were to redshirt for "last year", that would mean he has 2 years left, and would be a Redshirt Junior this coming football season (2013-2014), and a redshirt Senior the following football season.

His most effiencient course of action would be to "redshirt" this past football season (2012-13), and then play this season, and next at UM.

Sorry, forgot to add if he did transfer to another FCS school (i.e. Weber), his only course of action would be to "redshirt" 2012-13, then sit out this year, then would only be able to play the following year.

If he doesn't "redshirt" the last football season 2012-13 - essentially, that is a "wasted year", which would mean he "played" as a fresh, soph, junior (even though he didn't play), and would only have this coming football season to play (because he would be a senior eligibility wise).

 

[mtgrizrule]

Providing JJ is admitted back to school, there is no way there can be any lawsuits against the U of M on this. They had nothing to do with the legal process both parties went through. They were saved a lawsuit by him being allowed to continue his education during this process.

As for the U of M, is it possible JOD and Pflu can pursue a civil case? I am not sure if both or either will pursue anything. If they were to do so, the results of this trial surely would increase the likelihood of a wrongful termination suit.

As for the county or state, I believe both JJ and the accuser may have legitimate grounds to pursue something. I wonder what kind of legal actions can be taken against how the accusers tests were done?

As for JJ, I will be rooting for him as hard and loud as I can. I look forward to seeing how his teammates fight for him, and how the community react to JJ. I have a feeling JJ may become extremely overwhelmed with GRIZNATION support. Too bad we will also expect to the see the Femi nazi group(s) all over Missoula, and making WAGRIZ their primary protesting area.

Welcome back JJ, and my prayers to both parties, and families.

 

[Copper Griz]

Providing JJ is admitted back to school, there is no way there can be any lawsuits against the U of M on this. They had nothing to do with the legal process both parties went through. They were saved a lawsuit by him being allowed to continue his education during this process.

As for the U of M, is it possible JOD and Pflu can pursue a civil case? I am not sure if both or either will pursue anything. If they were to do so, the results of this trial surely would increase the likelihood of a wrongful termination suit.

As for the county or state, I believe both JJ and the accuser may have legitimate grounds to pursue something. I wonder what kind of legal actions can be taken against how the accusers tests were done?

As for JJ, I will be rooting for him as hard and loud as I can. I look forward to seeing how his teammates fight for him, and how the community react to JJ. I have a feeling JJ may become extremely overwhelmed with GRIZNATION support. Too bad we will also expect to the see the Femi nazi group(s) all over Missoula, and making WAGRIZ their primary protesting area.

Welcome back JJ, and my prayers to both parties, and families.

Just purchase razors and deodorant. The FN's will disperse quickly.

 

[NikeGrizz]

This morning on JJ's facebook he posted "10's back" if that's any indication of his plans...

 

[Thurman Murman]

Why is this such a debate? He is staying plain and simple. Any attempt by the university to the contrary will not only be quickly overruled but also give even more ammo for a civil suit.

 

[EverettGriz]

This morning on JJ's facebook he posted "10's back" if that's any indication of his plans...

:clap: :clap:

GREAT news!!

 

[granitegriz]

10's back...then UM bookstore should be ordering A LOT of no. 10 jerseys to sell.

 

[Grisly Fan]

10's back...then UM bookstore should be ordering A LOT of no. 10 jerseys to sell.

There's your fund raiser! Someone needs to have a bunch of maroon t-shirts with Montana in small letters and a huge 10 on the front and back. No Griz logo so no copyright violation nor need to pay royalties. Just have thousands made and mark them 5 bucks over cost. Take the profits and put them in a trust fund. What happens with that trust fund once JJ is no longer a UM athlete is none of the NCAA's business.

 

[EverettGriz]

10's back...then UM bookstore should be ordering A LOT of no. 10 jerseys to sell.

There's your fund raiser! Someone needs to have a bunch of maroon t-shirts with Montana in small letters and a huge 10 on the front and back. No Griz logo so no copyright violation nor need to pay royalties. Just have thousands made and mark them 5 bucks over cost. Take the profits and put them in a trust fund. What happens with that trust fund once JJ is no longer a UM athlete is none of the NCAA's business.

It's an NCAA violation.

 

[Grisly Fan]

10's back...then UM bookstore should be ordering A LOT of no. 10 jerseys to sell.

There's your fund raiser! Someone needs to have a bunch of maroon t-shirts with Montana in small letters and a huge 10 on the front and back. No Griz logo so no copyright violation nor need to pay royalties. Just have thousands made and mark them 5 bucks over cost. Take the profits and put them in a trust fund. What happens with that trust fund once JJ is no longer a UM athlete is none of the NCAA's business.

It's an NCAA violation.

Tis pity.

OK then, no markup, sell them at cost to enable 10 to 20 thousand people to wear them at the home opener. That would we epic!

 

[haZyskies]

Like many other people have said on here I think he should stay. No situation in a game is going to be that rattling for him after this. If I was on the team I would do anything to fight for a guy like JJ after seeing everything he's been thru.

 

[ordigger]

I posted this in other thread....

From the Register-Guard, Eugene's local newspaper....

http://registerguard.com/rg/news/29517328-76/johnson-montana-rape-football-university.html.csp


Lane Johnson, Jordan’s uncle, said the family is relieved by the verdict.

“It will be nice for (parents) Marty, Kelly and Jordan to get their normal lives back,” said Johnson, a Sheldon High teacher and head football coach who was in the courtroom.

“They’ve been through the ringer. Our whole family has, but especially those three, for the past 13 months. It’s nice that justice prevailed.”

Lane Johnson continued: “Jordy has been so strong through this whole thing. It’s been amazing to watch a 20-year-old teach us ... what it’s like to be strong. He’s been unbelievable.”

Johnson said his nephew plans to return to the Grizzlies.

“All along one of the things that kept Jordan strong was the support from the Montana football program. He’s a Montana guy.”

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Put yourself in his position. How would you feel at this point. What he decides to do, is right for him.

long time supporter, loyal to the end, is now head coach at Weber State....I would be considering that...UM seems to have a BAD administration with little interest in the bigger picture .

Robin is OC, not head coach. And you can't transfer within FCS without losing a year of eligibility. So if he transfers, he can't play next year.

He could probably get a waiver from the NCAA, since he was suspended for the year by UM on what turned out to be bogus charges.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Although I can't speak to JJ's current state of mind, I do know that as of last semester, he was telling close friends that he was committed to seeing this through and hopefully continuing his career in a Grizzly uniform. He understandably could have changed his mind since then, but I kind of doubt it given today's quick and unanimous result. As to the matter of his University status under the conduct code, signs are fairly positive. Upon last year's Student Conduct Court debacle and JJ's subsequent expulsion, Paoli had UM's new Conduct Code evaluated by a retired federal judge, who said that not only were the proceedings against JJ unconstitutional at best, but also opened the door to massive liability claims against UM. For this reason, Regents' chief Clay Christian allowed JJ back in school pending the results of the trial. Given this situation, I don't believe RE or the Regents are going to be in any hurry to open themselves up to the host of lawsuits and additional scrutiny that would come with pressing this matter any further.

I think Paoli should bring a claim against the university to get a settlement to cover the Johnson's legal expenses. The claim would be for the wrongful and illegal university proceeding (i.e. how it was handled, including the changed standard), which the retired judge (above) believed was unconstitutional and caused damage.

So you want Johnson to sue the university, and then QB the football team. :thumb:

Echo chamber...

 

[RobGriz]

Put yourself in his position. How would you feel at this point. What he decides to do, is right for him.

long time supporter, loyal to the end, is now head coach at Weber State....I would be considering that...UM seems to have a BAD administration with little interest in the bigger picture .

Robin is OC, not head coach. And you can't transfer within FCS without losing a year of eligibility. So if he transfers, he can't play next year.

He could probably get a waiver from the NCAA, since he was suspended for the year by UM on what turned out to be bogus charges.

If he petitions the NCAA to get that year back then he will most likely get it, but if he transfers he would gain it only to lose it which would leave him with one year of eligibility...period. If he stays here or moves down to div II he will have 2 years after petitioning the NCAA.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

long time supporter, loyal to the end, is now head coach at Weber State....I would be considering that...UM seems to have a BAD administration with little interest in the bigger picture .

Robin is OC, not head coach. And you can't transfer within FCS without losing a year of eligibility. So if he transfers, he can't play next year.

He could probably get a waiver from the NCAA, since he was suspended for the year by UM on what turned out to be bogus charges.

If he petitions the NCAA to get that year back then he will most likely get it, but if he transfers he would gain it only to lose it which would leave him with one year of eligibility...period. If he stays here or moves down to div II he will have 2 years after petitioning the NCAA.

What I mean is the NCAA may waive the 1-year rule because of the not guilty verdict, and now he already missed last season. There is precedent for it.