Why Simis was Third String.

[LakGriz]

Simis responsible for the INTs and the fumbles. He is NOT responsible for the penalty that wiped out the 2nd half Kickoff reurn for a TD ... nor missed FG tries, nor PF penalties that wipe out gains or put you in terrible down and distance ...

maybe he should be coached to look at the 2nd receive before he looks at the first...

 

[jodcon]

Marino 301 rushes for 87 yards...holy shit that is worse than expected :lol:

 

[CV Griz Fan]

It is painful watching the Mannings, Brady, and Rivers trying to run. Good thing they have coaches who realize their strengths. My favorite throwing QB of all time is Dan Marino. It was painful watching him run too. :thumb:

Bernie Kosar was probably the single most immobile QB to ever take an NFL snap.

Dan Marino.

Yep Marino looked like a 90-year old man when he was 30, leadfoot city.

Probably the quickest release ever though. You can be lead footed when you get the ball out that fast.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Bernie Kosar was probably the single most immobile QB to ever take an NFL snap.

Dan Marino.

Yep Marino looked like a 90-year old man when he was 30, leadfoot city.

Probably the quickest release ever though. You can be lead footed when you get the ball out that fast.

Watch these videos to see how a qb should pass. What great memories! https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dan+marino+quick+release

 

[Plainsman]

I don't really have a dog in the fight in the Gus/Simis debate but I do agree that Simis often stares down his primary receiver. However, as another poster questioned under another heading, does the O line consistently or even a majority of the time hold their blocks long enough to allow progression? I haven't seen it very often.

 

[mtgrizrule]

I don't really have a dog in the fight in the Gus/Simis debate but I do agree that Simis often stares down his primary receiver. However, as another poster questioned under another heading, does the O line consistently or even a majority of the time hold their blocks long enough to allow progression? I haven't seen it very often.

I have questioned that a few times myself.

 

[rimrockgriz]

Marino 301 rushes for 87 yards...holy shit that is worse than expected :lol:

F... Dude! I spit up my frosty on that one :lol: :lol: ... :egriz:

 

[mtgrizrule]

Marino 301 rushes for 87 yards...holy shit that is worse than expected :lol:

F... Dude! I spit up my frosty on that one :lol: :lol: ... :egriz:

And he had a good offensive line most of his career

 

[rimrockgriz]

It is painful watching the Mannings, Brady, and Rivers trying to run. Good thing they have coaches who realize their strengths. My favorite throwing QB of all time is Dan Marino. It was painful watching him run too. :thumb:

Bernie Kosar was probably the single most immobile QB to ever take an NFL snap.

Dan Marino.

No way. Kosar.

I just read where Kosar said he ran a 5.6 40 at the U... :lol: ... :egrizall of a sudden I feel like Bob Hayes)

 

[UMGriz75]

I don't really have a dog in the fight in the Gus/Simis debate but I do agree that Simis often stares down his primary receiver. However, as another poster questioned under another heading, does the O line consistently or even a majority of the time hold their blocks long enough to allow progression? I haven't seen it very often.

I have questioned that a few times myself.

Makena mentioned that he had to rely on JN to block in order to even get off throws, because he felt the pocket was collapsing too soon. Stitt, second-guessing his QB, screamed at him that it wasn't collapsing, from what he "could see" from the sideline, even though this has not been a strong OL by all accounts. Of course, the "Offensive Coordinator" perhaps doesn't take kindly to what amounts to criticism of his area of responsibility.

There's a whole Harvard Business Review article there, just waiting to be written, on certain aspects of "management theory."

 

[grizindabox]

you know why Simis was third string....because there were 2 QB's on the roster that Stitt felt executed the offense better and gave the team a better chance to win....and I am fairly confident that he still feels that way...and I also would assume that Simis will leave the program because with Stitt in charge, the writing is on the wall....

 

[UMGriz75]

you know why Simis was third string....because there were 2 QB's on the roster that Stitt felt executed the offense better ...

And didn't.

That's the problem.

 

[grizindabox]

you know why Simis was third string....because there were 2 QB's on the roster that Stitt felt executed the offense better ...

And didn't.

That's the problem.

I know....so why do you think Simis is the answer....he hasn't executed the offense well either....seems to me that there is not a QB on the roster that is the answer....what do you say 75?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

And it seems the Griz are fucked for years to come because there are no QB's that Stitt could possibly recruit that can execute his offense. Dude has no idea what he is looking for in a QB and even if he did it would be like finding a needle in a haystack, or any actual incite from anything 75 posts.

 

[UMGriz75]

you know why Simis was third string....because there were 2 QB's on the roster that Stitt felt executed the offense better ...

And didn't.

That's the problem.

I know....so why do you think Simis is the answer....he hasn't executed the offense well either....seems to me that there is not a QB on the roster that is the answer....what do you say 75?

Well, that's the question, isn't it? Coach or players? You beg the question, "the offense." There is a theoretical construct there that no one seems to be able to execute, and Stitt's second and third string recruits at CSM can't either.

EWU isn't successful because of the mythical "offense" that everyone prays to. Baldwin coaches what he gets, and does a damn good job of it. Most coaches are stuck with that due to lack of premonition, magic, Unicorns, and the vast insight of people like grizindabox or helenahandbasket that never seems to actually know what they are talking about when asked. In particular, the geniuses don't know that 17 year old kids and 21 year old kids can be vastly different and that the transition from one to the other is very often much less predictable than the blind hero worship of Bob Stitt which acknowledges no such realities. And that's not Bob Stitt's fault.

 

[UMGriz75]

Dude has no idea what he is looking for in a QB and even if he did it would be like finding a needle in a haystack, or any actual incite from anything 75 posts.

No, what is hilarious about you, Larry and Curly is that you confidently predict he will recruit "his" QBs that can execute "his" schemes, but then can offer absolutely nothing about what those QB's can do, or what Stitt is looking for, or how they might be distinguished, coming out of high school programs, from high end QBs currently being recruited.

In other words, you don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about, irregardless of Bob Stitt. You fabricate a rationalization for him, without the faintest idea what that rationalization is. Bob Stitt may very well know what he is doing. You don't. That's the obvious difference.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

you know why Simis was third string....because there were 2 QB's on the roster that Stitt felt executed the offense better ...

And didn't.

That's the problem.

I know....so why do you think Simis is the answer....he hasn't executed the offense well either....seems to me that there is not a QB on the roster that is the answer....what do you say 75?

Well, that's the question, isn't it? Coach or players? You beg the question, "the offense." There is a theoretical construct there that no one seems to be able to execute, and Stitt's second and third string recruits at CSM can't either.

EWU isn't successful because of the mythical "offense" that everyone prays to. Baldwin coaches what he gets, and does a damn good job of it.

Guess what Baldwin recruits the type of QB that fits best with what he wants, he doesn't just settle for what he gets, he is not going to recruit a QB only capable of running option when he has a pro-style passing offense, he is not going to recruit a noodle armed QB, I can't believe you actually believe that a coach gets stuck with a guy, he recruits guys that fit his mold.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Dude has no idea what he is looking for in a QB and even if he did it would be like finding a needle in a haystack, or any actual incite from anything 75 posts.

No, what is hilarious about you, Larry and Curly is that you confidently predict he will recruit "his" QBs that can execute "his" schemes, but then can offer absolutely nothing about what those QB's can do, or what Stitt is looking for, or how they might be distinguished, coming out of high school programs, from high end QBs currently being recruited.

In other words, you don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about, irregardless of Bob Stitt. You fabricate a rationalization for him, without the faintest idea what that rationalization is. Bob Stitt may very well know what he is doing. You don't. That's the obvious difference.

75, do you think Stitt knows what he is looking for in a QB? If you do, then the Griz should be fine. If you don't, then they are in trouble. It doesn't really matter what you or I think he wants in a QB.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Dude has no idea what he is looking for in a QB and even if he did it would be like finding a needle in a haystack, or any actual incite from anything 75 posts.

No, what is hilarious about you, Larry and Curly is that you confidently predict he will recruit "his" QBs that can execute "his" schemes, but then can offer absolutely nothing about what those QB's can do, or what Stitt is looking for, or how they might be distinguished, coming out of high school programs, from high end QBs currently being recruited.

In other words, you don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about, irregardless of Bob Stitt. You fabricate a rationalization for him, without the faintest idea what that rationalization is. Bob Stitt may very well know what he is doing. You don't. That's the obvious difference.

75, do you think Stitt knows what he is looking for in a QB? If you do, then the Griz should be fine. If you don't, then they are in trouble. It doesn't really matter what you or I think he wants in a QB.

At the recruiting banquet in Kalispell, Stitt went on for 5-10 minutes what he looks for in a qb. He was pretty damn concise on it too. He kept it short due to time restrictions. I bet he could have talked hours maybe days about his strategy and qb play. The guy is damn smart and intriguing to listen to.

 

[kemajic]

I don't really have a dog in the fight in the Gus/Simis debate but I do agree that Simis often stares down his primary receiver. However, as another poster questioned under another heading, does the O line consistently or even a majority of the time hold their blocks long enough to allow progression? I haven't seen it very often.

He doesn't step up in the pocket; instead his happy feet take over too early.