Why should college athletes be held to higher standards than others?

[zirge]

Why should football players and other college athletes be held to higher standards than their peers, and really of most, but not all, groups of other people? That seems to be the trend now. I don't see the rationale for it. More than the person in the band, the student, the professor, non-students. What is the is the reason? What is the goal?

Is it just the press and scrutiny that they receive, and most other groups of people don't receive? The related press calls bad attention to the program and the school?

I understand why truck drivers need to be clean from drugs and alcohol issues. There are certainly some groups of people/employees like that. I understand why athletes shouldn't be allowed to use performance enhancing drugs.

I don't understand why the ncaa tests for marijuana and has a half-season suspension for those testing positive. Huh? It's no worse than alcohol. It is not performance enhancing. It is legal in multiple states. Is this just a remnant of something else, or a morality thing?

And again, why aren't players and other people who text/drive disciplined or crucified like those who drink/drive? The reason to have laws against drinking/driving are to prevent exactly the same things as texing/driving. And what about extreme speeding? Stats show that speeding causes a similar amount of deaths as drinking/drugs. Why crucify drinkers and give speeders a pass?

it is my belief that all are held to the same standard, rape, breaking and entering etc are the same
charge for everyone. i think you answered your own question in the second paragragh.

as far as texting the law makers are just catching up to the public interest and use so the standard is being drafted as we converse on egriz. now marijuana is just a plain control issue and hype because
those same white guys making the rules would love to get stone but it may present evidence of who they pretend to be and could shatter their power and the strong ego that comes with the facade.

irony is the root of smoke and mirrors. welcome to the great double standard...the biggest con game.

 

[PlayerRep]

I am not sure they are really held to a higher standard. I know many people that would lose their job if they got a DUI. I think the difference is athletes are more visible than the average student, they agree to a code of conduct with the school, and they represent the school when they put on the jersey. IMO, everyone should be held to a higher standard when it comes to DUI, and my stomach turns every time I hear about someone getting arrested for their 5th or 6th or 7th DUI.

Why don't you name the jobs/organizations which end when an employee gets a dui. Curious. I don't know many at all. No one in our organization of over a 1,000 were get fired for a dui.

 

[Gaeilge1]

This is the wrong question. The question we should be asking is why aren't the rest of us held to the same standard as the college athlete?

Regardless of the perception, we can all do better!

 

[PlayerRep]

Why should football players and other college athletes be held to higher standards than their peers, and really of most, but not all, groups of other people? That seems to be the trend now. I don't see the rationale for it. More than the person in the band, the student, the professor, non-students. What is the is the reason? What is the goal?

Is it just the press and scrutiny that they receive, and most other groups of people don't receive? The related press calls bad attention to the program and the school?

I understand why truck drivers need to be clean from drugs and alcohol issues. There are certainly some groups of people/employees like that. I understand why athletes shouldn't be allowed to use performance enhancing drugs.

I don't understand why the ncaa tests for marijuana and has a half-season suspension for those testing positive. Huh? It's no worse than alcohol. It is not performance enhancing. It is legal in multiple states. Is this just a remnant of something else, or a morality thing?

And again, why aren't players and other people who text/drive disciplined or crucified like those who drink/drive? The reason to have laws against drinking/driving are to prevent exactly the same things as texing/driving. And what about extreme speeding? Stats show that speeding causes a similar amount of deaths as drinking/drugs. Why crucify drinkers and give speeders a pass?

I considered it a privilege to attend Dartmouth but not to play football. I have didn't consider it a privilege to play sports for Bozeman high. I don't consider it a privilege to have my job. I consider it somewhat of a privilege in the US. However, I don't think I should be deported or stripped of my citizenship if I got a dui. I don't consider it a privilege to post on Internet forums.

it is my belief that all are held to the same standard, rape, breaking and entering etc are the same
charge for everyone. i think you answered your own question in the second paragragh.

as far as texting the law makers are just catching up to the public interest and use so the standard is being drafted as we converse on egriz. now marijuana is just a plain control issue and hype because
those same white guys making the rules would love to get stone but it may present evidence of who they pretend to be and could shatter their power and the strong ego that comes with the facade.

irony is the root of smoke and mirrors. welcome to the great double standard...the biggest con game.

 

[Quig]

Only skimmed replies other than OP. And didn't play college ball. Yet as far as college football athletes go.

For every man of the century Cooper Kupp, there are several overgrown and surly (young) men.

It would be terrifying if football players weren't held to a higher standard. I would be scared to leave my room in the morning.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

This is the wrong question. The question we should be asking is why aren't the rest of us held to the same standard as the college athlete?

Regardless of the perception, we can all do better!

This is the correct answer.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I am not sure they are really held to a higher standard. I know many people that would lose their job if they got a DUI. I think the difference is athletes are more visible than the average student, they agree to a code of conduct with the school, and they represent the school when they put on the jersey. IMO, everyone should be held to a higher standard when it comes to DUI, and my stomach turns every time I hear about someone getting arrested for their 5th or 6th or 7th DUI.

Why don't you name the jobs/organizations which end when an employee gets a dui. Curious. I don't know many at all. No one in our organization of over a 1,000 were get fired for a dui.

People that drive for a living. I know of a few police officers that got canned. Bottom line is DUI is illegal, and I have zero issue with a college football player being punished with missed games and numerous sprints in practice.

 

[PlayerRep]

I am not sure they are really held to a higher standard. I know many people that would lose their job if they got a DUI. I think the difference is athletes are more visible than the average student, they agree to a code of conduct with the school, and they represent the school when they put on the jersey. IMO, everyone should be held to a higher standard when it comes to DUI, and my stomach turns every time I hear about someone getting arrested for their 5th or 6th or 7th DUI.

Why don't you name the jobs/organizations which end when an employee gets a dui. Curious. I don't know many at all. No one in our organization of over a 1,000 were get fired for a dui.

People that drive for a living. I know of a few police officers that got canned. Bottom line is DUI is illegal, and I have zero issue with a college football player being punished with missed games and numerous sprints in practice.

Yup, fine with drivers and police officers. Still wouldn't put college athletes in that category. The UM athletic code calls for 10% of games, or 1.1., of suspension, and I'm sure the coaches impose much more than sprints.

 

[PlayerRep]

This is the wrong question. The question we should be asking is why aren't the rest of us held to the same standard as the college athlete?

Regardless of the perception, we can all do better!

This is the correct answer.

Don't agree, but I agree with your consistency.

Maybe the answer is that the press and internet should not be focusing so much attention on athletes. I'm just using your outside the box thinking. Just don't see any reason for college athletes to get crucified like they do now.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

This is the wrong question. The question we should be asking is why aren't the rest of us held to the same standard as the college athlete?

Regardless of the perception, we can all do better!

This is the correct answer.

Don't agree, but I agree with your consistency.

Maybe the answer is that the press and internet should not be focusing so much attention on athletes. I'm just using your outside the box thinking. Just don't see any reason for college athletes to get crucified like they do now.

I don't see it as being "crucified". As for attention on athletes, everyone on eGriz, everyone that buys tickets are guilty of this. They get the attention if they score 3 touchdowns just like if they get a DUI. You can't it one way without the other.

 

[grizzcabin]

DUI and smoking pot just to name a few will end your career in the military period

 

[PlayerRep]

This is the wrong question. The question we should be asking is why aren't the rest of us held to the same standard as the college athlete?

Regardless of the perception, we can all do better!

This is the correct answer.

Don't agree, but I agree with your consistency.

Maybe the answer is that the press and internet should not be focusing so much attention on athletes. I'm just using your outside the box thinking. Just don't see any reason for college athletes to get crucified like they do now.

I don't see it as being "crucified". As for attention on athletes, everyone on eGriz, everyone that buys tickets are guilty of this. They get the attention if they score 3 touchdowns just like if they get a DUI. You can't it one way without the other.

Sure you can. Scoring td's is the same as getting in trouble. What about all the guys who dont score td's,
get any press, or play much. They get crucified too.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

This is the correct answer.

Don't agree, but I agree with your consistency.

Maybe the answer is that the press and internet should not be focusing so much attention on athletes. I'm just using your outside the box thinking. Just don't see any reason for college athletes to get crucified like they do now.

I don't see it as being "crucified". As for attention on athletes, everyone on eGriz, everyone that buys tickets are guilty of this. They get the attention if they score 3 touchdowns just like if they get a DUI. You can't it one way without the other.

Sure you can. Scoring td's is the same as getting in trouble. What about all the guys who dont score td's,
get any press, or play much. They get crucified too.

I never said scoring TD's was like getting in trouble. What I did say is a public figure, and College football players are public figures, must take the bad with the good. You do good, you get the public praise, when you do bad, you get the negative press.

 

[PlayerRep]

Don't agree, but I agree with your consistency.

Maybe the answer is that the press and internet should not be focusing so much attention on athletes. I'm just using your outside the box thinking. Just don't see any reason for college athletes to get crucified like they do now.

I don't see it as being "crucified". As for attention on athletes, everyone on eGriz, everyone that buys tickets are guilty of this. They get the attention if they score 3 touchdowns just like if they get a DUI. You can't it one way without the other.

Sure you can. Scoring td's is the same as getting in trouble. What about all the guys who dont score td's,
get any press, or play much. They get crucified too.

I never said scoring TD's was like getting in trouble. What I did say is a public figure, and College football players are public figures, must take the bad with the good. You do good, you get the public praise, when you do bad, you get the negative press.

Most college football players are not public figures.

I'm not talking about press or publicity. I am talking about being held to an unusually high standard, at least by some. There's a big difference between the two.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I don't see it as being "crucified". As for attention on athletes, everyone on eGriz, everyone that buys tickets are guilty of this. They get the attention if they score 3 touchdowns just like if they get a DUI. You can't it one way without the other.

Sure you can. Scoring td's is the same as getting in trouble. What about all the guys who dont score td's,
get any press, or play much. They get crucified too.

I never said scoring TD's was like getting in trouble. What I did say is a public figure, and College football players are public figures, must take the bad with the good. You do good, you get the public praise, when you do bad, you get the negative press.

Most college football players are not public figures.

I'm not talking about press or publicity. I am talking about being held to an unusually high standard, at least by some. There's a big difference between the two.

You mean the high standard of not drinking and driving? And I beg to differ, college athletes are definitely in the public eye. What they do, good and bad, will be scrutinized.

 

[GrizLA]

My simple take. Any time you represent an organization, you are on public display. Whether fair or not.

I agree with that. And, if they are on scholarship, it is even more of a reason to be at the top of their game and most are. That is why when an athlete at UM gets a DWI it makes the news. The other athletes did not do what he did. PR forgets that universities are to bring us up standards of behavior that we might not have otherwise.

 

[GrizLA]

I am not sure they are really held to a higher standard. I know many people that would lose their job if they got a DUI. I think the difference is athletes are more visible than the average student, they agree to a code of conduct with the school, and they represent the school when they put on the jersey. IMO, everyone should be held to a higher standard when it comes to DUI, and my stomach turns every time I hear about someone getting arrested for their 5th or 6th or 7th DUI.

Why don't you name the jobs/organizations which end when an employee gets a dui. Curious. I don't know many at all. No one in our organization of over a 1,000 were get fired for a dui.

I had a neighbor in Cali that lost their position at a med school for exactly that. And, I know of a major engineering group that has firm guidelines that are adhered to. If not they are politely shown the door.

 

[PlayerRep]

Sure you can. Scoring td's is the same as getting in trouble. What about all the guys who dont score td's,
get any press, or play much. They get crucified too.

I never said scoring TD's was like getting in trouble. What I did say is a public figure, and College football players are public figures, must take the bad with the good. You do good, you get the public praise, when you do bad, you get the negative press.

Most college football players are not public figures.

I'm not talking about press or publicity. I am talking about being held to an unusually high standard, at least by some. There's a big difference between the two.

You mean the high standard of not drinking and driving? And I beg to differ, college athletes are definitely in the public eye. What they do, good and bad, will be scrutinized.

Being in the public eye doesn't equal being a public figure. Yes, teams like the Griz and some of their players are in the public eye. So what? Why does that mean that the players should get crucified for misdemeanors? Why does that mean that some fans say they should be dropped from the team if they get a dui?

I know that being in the public eye and getting more press and more attention leads to more scrutiny. But I don't get the higher standard stuff. I hope you are not saying that standards of conduct should be based on how much attention or publicity that someone gets. Football gets much more attention than cross country or band, so they standards of conduct should be higher for the football team? You've got to be kidding.

 

[PlayerRep]

I am not sure they are really held to a higher standard. I know many people that would lose their job if they got a DUI. I think the difference is athletes are more visible than the average student, they agree to a code of conduct with the school, and they represent the school when they put on the jersey. IMO, everyone should be held to a higher standard when it comes to DUI, and my stomach turns every time I hear about someone getting arrested for their 5th or 6th or 7th DUI.

Why don't you name the jobs/organizations which end when an employee gets a dui. Curious. I don't know many at all. No one in our organization of over a 1,000 were get fired for a dui.

I had a neighbor in Cali that lost their position at a med school for exactly that. And, I know of a major engineering group that has firm guidelines that are adhered to. If not they are politely shown the door.

Name the engineering group, and I will see if what you are saying is correct.

How about USC med school? Young woman OD's when with the older dean in his hotel room, and meth is found in the room, this gets reported to the school, and the deans stays on the payroll, keeps seeing patients, and keeps representing the school. School keeps getting contacted by the LA Times for a year, and nothing changes with the dean.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Why does that mean that the players should get crucified for misdemeanors? Why does that mean that some fans say they should be dropped from the team if they get a dui?

I know that being in the public eye and getting more press and more attention leads to more scrutiny. But I don't get the higher standard stuff. I hope you are not saying that standards of conduct should be based on how much attention or publicity that someone gets. Football gets much more attention than cross country or band, so they standards of conduct should be higher for the football team? You've got to be kidding.

No one is getting crucified. It would seem that people have different feeling about the severity of DUI. I am not saying standards should be based on the publicity, but publicity brings out the different view points on the crime, and football is more visible than cross country or band but the code of conduct should be the same. Are you implying that they are not at the University of Montana?