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Who could get a shot in the pros this time next year?

jcu27 said:
griz_this said:
jcu27....why such a Dan Moore hater?
Because he hasn't done much for the team. Besides maybe leadership and a lot of other players can provide that to. You guys act like he's the only one who works hard. Everyone that is active on the team works hard period. Dan Moore just needs to be on ST or FB. Having him as a RB is one of the dumbest things ever.
Adding you JCU makes two of the dumbest things ever in one thread. Coincidence??
 
BWahlberg said:
jcu27 said:
You're drunk out of your mind if you really think Dan Moore will be drafted.

People said the same thing to me last year about my projections.

Keep in mind that roster limits were expanded by 10 players for every NFL team to 90 players. This just occurred a week or two ago with the new collective bargaining agreement. There are 320 new spots this year compared to last year.

With that said it is still impressive that the Griz got so many signings when other schools did not.
 
Grizmayor said:
jcu27 said:
griz_this said:
jcu27....why such a Dan Moore hater?
Because he hasn't done much for the team. Besides maybe leadership and a lot of other players can provide that to. You guys act like he's the only one who works hard. Everyone that is active on the team works hard period. Dan Moore just needs to be on ST or FB. Having him as a RB is one of the dumbest things ever.
Adding you JCU makes two of the dumbest things ever in one thread. Coincidence??
How about instead of talking shit, give a reason to why you think he'll make it to the nfl? And what's so good about him?

Btw I think most know you are one of the biggest doofs on here. Pretty close to G1. Maybe worse. At least he provides an argument while shit talking.
 
jcu27 said:
Grizmayor said:
jcu27 said:
griz_this said:
jcu27....why such a Dan Moore hater?
Because he hasn't done much for the team. Besides maybe leadership and a lot of other players can provide that to. You guys act like he's the only one who works hard. Everyone that is active on the team works hard period. Dan Moore just needs to be on ST or FB. Having him as a RB is one of the dumbest things ever.
Adding you JCU makes two of the dumbest things ever in one thread. Coincidence??
How about instead of talking shit, give a reason to why you think he'll make it to the nfl? And what's so good about him?

Btw I think most know you are one of the biggest doofs on here. Pretty close to G1. Maybe worse. At least he provides an argument while shit talking.

I will bite. Justin Green was a college running back who was made into a fullback. Dan Moore is a fullback in a system that does not use a fullback. Most fullbacks are converted from another position in the pros. 99% of the college offenses now do not have fullbacks. Fullbacks however are at a premium in the NFL style offenses. Always have been and always will be. If you think Moore has few yards in college, he would have even fewer in the NFL if he is indeed a fullback. He could play 12 years and have fewer carries and yards than would in one year of college. He would block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, and then he would block some more. He is in for some 2 back situations for the griz and often is either a decoy or blocker, but has not really been used as a fullback per se.
 
grizatwork said:
jcu27 said:
Grizmayor said:
jcu27 said:
Because he hasn't done much for the team. Besides maybe leadership and a lot of other players can provide that to. You guys act like he's the only one who works hard. Everyone that is active on the team works hard period. Dan Moore just needs to be on ST or FB. Having him as a RB is one of the dumbest things ever.
Adding you JCU makes two of the dumbest things ever in one thread. Coincidence??
How about instead of talking shit, give a reason to why you think he'll make it to the nfl? And what's so good about him?

Btw I think most know you are one of the biggest doofs on here. Pretty close to G1. Maybe worse. At least he provides an argument while shit talking.

I will bite. Justin Green was a college running back who was made into a fullback. Dan Moore is a fullback in a system that does not use a fullback. Most fullbacks are converted from another position in the pros. 99% of the college offenses now do not have fullbacks. Fullbacks however are at a premium in the NFL style offenses. Always have been and always will be. If you think Moore has few yards in college, he would have even fewer in the NFL if he is indeed a fullback. He could play 12 years and have fewer carries and yards than would in one year of college. He would block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, and then he would block some more. He is in for some 2 back situations for the griz and often is either a decoy or blocker, but has not really been used as a fullback per se.
I don't disagree with any of that. Dan Moore should be blocking and catching passes. I like him as FB and ST. Just not as RB, he wouldn't make it in the NFL for that position. He might be a good defensive player too, but who knows. It'd be interesting seeing him as a LB.
 
jcu27 said:
grizatwork said:
jcu27 said:
Grizmayor said:
Adding you JCU makes two of the dumbest things ever in one thread. Coincidence??
How about instead of talking shit, give a reason to why you think he'll make it to the nfl? And what's so good about him?

Btw I think most know you are one of the biggest doofs on here. Pretty close to G1. Maybe worse. At least he provides an argument while shit talking.

I will bite. Justin Green was a college running back who was made into a fullback. Dan Moore is a fullback in a system that does not use a fullback. Most fullbacks are converted from another position in the pros. 99% of the college offenses now do not have fullbacks. Fullbacks however are at a premium in the NFL style offenses. Always have been and always will be. If you think Moore has few yards in college, he would have even fewer in the NFL if he is indeed a fullback. He could play 12 years and have fewer carries and yards than would in one year of college. He would block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, and then he would block some more. He is in for some 2 back situations for the griz and often is either a decoy or blocker, but has not really been used as a fullback per se.
I don't disagree with any of that. Dan Moore should be blocking and catching passes. I like him as FB and ST. Just not as RB, he wouldn't make it in the NFL for that position. He might be a good defensive player too, but who knows. It'd be interesting seeing him as a LB.

He is being used as best he can based on the system that he is in. He started seeing the field better and became more patient last year. I think you will see better performance by him next year. No way he is a running back at the next level. Only shot is fullback. He is not fluid at the hips to be a linebacker in my opinion.
 
grizatwork said:
jcu27 said:
grizatwork said:
jcu27 said:
How about instead of talking shit, give a reason to why you think he'll make it to the nfl? And what's so good about him?

Btw I think most know you are one of the biggest doofs on here. Pretty close to G1. Maybe worse. At least he provides an argument while shit talking.

I will bite. Justin Green was a college running back who was made into a fullback. Dan Moore is a fullback in a system that does not use a fullback. Most fullbacks are converted from another position in the pros. 99% of the college offenses now do not have fullbacks. Fullbacks however are at a premium in the NFL style offenses. Always have been and always will be. If you think Moore has few yards in college, he would have even fewer in the NFL if he is indeed a fullback. He could play 12 years and have fewer carries and yards than would in one year of college. He would block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, and then he would block some more. He is in for some 2 back situations for the griz and often is either a decoy or blocker, but has not really been used as a fullback per se.
I don't disagree with any of that. Dan Moore should be blocking and catching passes. I like him as FB and ST. Just not as RB, he wouldn't make it in the NFL for that position. He might be a good defensive player too, but who knows. It'd be interesting seeing him as a LB.

He is being used as best he can based on the system that he is in. He started seeing the field better and became more patient last year. I think you will see better performance by him next year. No way he is a running back at the next level. Only shot is fullback. He is not fluid at the hips to be a linebacker in my opinion.
Well I wouldn't say he was used as best as possible. His best runs are North/South and they had him running around. Yeah I think he has improved, but he still needs to improve a lot more. I had that same thought about his hips, but I just think it'd be fun seeing what he could do.
 
I think Moore has a shot because like I said, the NFL loves prototypical fullbacks, and he can play like his hair is on fire on special teams. Whether that is draft material or free agent stuff is up to the professionals who scout players. But yes, he does do better with North/South, but all of our backs did when they were more aggressive and comfortable with the zone blocking. Zone blocking for O line can be frustrating to get, but when they pick it up and get comfortable with each other, it can really click. Our improvement in running last year can be attributed as much to improved zone blocking as it can to improved back play.
 
jcu27 said:
Grizmayor said:
jcu27 said:
griz_this said:
jcu27....why such a Dan Moore hater?
Because he hasn't done much for the team. Besides maybe leadership and a lot of other players can provide that to. You guys act like he's the only one who works hard. Everyone that is active on the team works hard period. Dan Moore just needs to be on ST or FB. Having him as a RB is one of the dumbest things ever.
Adding you JCU makes two of the dumbest things ever in one thread. Coincidence??
How about instead of talking shit, give a reason to why you think he'll make it to the nfl? And what's so good about him?

Btw I think most know you are one of the biggest doofs on here. Pretty close to G1. Maybe worse. At least he provides an argument while shit talking.
Wow... I guess you really told me. :lol: :lol: :lol: As Mark Twain would say (you have heard of Mark Twain, JCU? I know he isn't any M&M, but he is pretty wise) 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." He must have been talking about your dope-smoking ass.
 
jcu27 said:
grizatwork said:
jcu27 said:
grizatwork said:
I will bite. Justin Green was a college running back who was made into a fullback. Dan Moore is a fullback in a system that does not use a fullback. Most fullbacks are converted from another position in the pros. 99% of the college offenses now do not have fullbacks. Fullbacks however are at a premium in the NFL style offenses. Always have been and always will be. If you think Moore has few yards in college, he would have even fewer in the NFL if he is indeed a fullback. He could play 12 years and have fewer carries and yards than would in one year of college. He would block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, catch a pass, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, and then he would block some more. He is in for some 2 back situations for the griz and often is either a decoy or blocker, but has not really been used as a fullback per se.
I don't disagree with any of that. Dan Moore should be blocking and catching passes. I like him as FB and ST. Just not as RB, he wouldn't make it in the NFL for that position. He might be a good defensive player too, but who knows. It'd be interesting seeing him as a LB.

He is being used as best he can based on the system that he is in. He started seeing the field better and became more patient last year. I think you will see better performance by him next year. No way he is a running back at the next level. Only shot is fullback. He is not fluid at the hips to be a linebacker in my opinion.
Well I wouldn't say he was used as best as possible. His best runs are North/South and they had him running around. Yeah I think he has improved, but he still needs to improve a lot more. I had that same thought about his hips, but I just think it'd be fun seeing what he could do.
Well JCU Lombardi... let's hear your professional opinion on how much Dan can improve and in what areas?? I'm curious about your "expert" opinion... or should we wait until you get done reading "Fullbacks for Dummies" to give us that tidbit... PLEASE HURRY before the seasons starts, I'm sure Dan is waiting.
 
grizatwork said:
I think Moore has a shot because like I said, the NFL loves prototypical fullbacks, and he can play like his hair is on fire on special teams. Whether that is draft material or free agent stuff is up to the professionals who scout players. But yes, he does do better with North/South, but all of our backs did when they were more aggressive and comfortable with the zone blocking. Zone blocking for O line can be frustrating to get, but when they pick it up and get comfortable with each other, it can really click. Our improvement in running last year can be attributed as much to improved zone blocking as it can to improved back play.
Also remember during the early parts of the season, Dan was out running his trap blocking by Kis, Oiland and Poehls. One memorable play inside the ten, all he had to do was wait for Kistler to take out the safety and it was an easy six, but Dan zigged when he should have zagged and got drilled. Later in the year (Cat game especially), he was more patient and hit the jets. As far as his 5 yards in 4 carries at SHSU, you can't make your own holes. They were shooting the inside backers regularly and I don't know if they were keying on him specifically, but the gaps weren't there for him. Give the Bearkats credit for that.
 
Griz Growler said:
I heard Kemp is gone. I heard that he left the program after all the...Hmmmm...stuff went down.

Uh... Wrong, he was on the sidelines in the 2nd half of spring ball with injuries.
 
BWahlberg said:
Griz Growler said:
I heard Kemp is gone. I heard that he left the program after all the...Hmmmm...stuff went down.

Uh... Wrong, he was on the sidelines in the 2nd half of spring ball with injuries.

AS for football, unless he wants to drop down, he has no good options. The only way I see him leaving is, if his injury/injuries will not permit him to play his SR year. IF, he is healthy, I don't see Kemp as a quitter. Then again, maybe some good d II program will hand him a starting qb job, and see where it leads.

I have no idea, but am believing, he will be a GRIZ for his SR year.
 
Grizmayor said:
grizatwork said:
I think Moore has a shot because like I said, the NFL loves prototypical fullbacks, and he can play like his hair is on fire on special teams. Whether that is draft material or free agent stuff is up to the professionals who scout players. But yes, he does do better with North/South, but all of our backs did when they were more aggressive and comfortable with the zone blocking. Zone blocking for O line can be frustrating to get, but when they pick it up and get comfortable with each other, it can really click. Our improvement in running last year can be attributed as much to improved zone blocking as it can to improved back play.
Also remember during the early parts of the season, Dan was out running his trap blocking by Kis, Oiland and Poehls. One memorable play inside the ten, all he had to do was wait for Kistler to take out the safety and it was an easy six, but Dan zigged when he should have zagged and got drilled. Later in the year (Cat game especially), he was more patient and hit the jets. As far as his 5 yards in 4 carries at SHSU, you can't make your own holes. They were shooting the inside backers regularly and I don't know if they were keying on him specifically, but the gaps weren't there for him. Give the Bearkats credit for that.
Did I hurt your feelings? Is Moore your bf? All I'm saying is hes not a good running back. He's ok at tops. So be sad about the truth.
 
mtgrizrule said:
BWahlberg said:
Griz Growler said:
I heard Kemp is gone. I heard that he left the program after all the...Hmmmm...stuff went down.

Uh... Wrong, he was on the sidelines in the 2nd half of spring ball with injuries.

AS for football, unless he wants to drop down, he has no good options. The only way I see him leaving is, if his injury/injuries will not permit him to play his SR year. IF, he is healthy, I don't see Kemp as a quitter. Then again, maybe some good d II program will hand him a starting qb job, and see where it leads.

I have no idea, but am believing, he will be a GRIZ for his SR year.


He would look good in Tech green!!!!!!
 
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