Where's Coach Stitt's offense?

[get'em_griz]

I love how there are posters who after only 4 games are saying things like "Stitt's offense sucks", "teams are figuring out containment", and "Gustafson is better than Chalich". What will they say when the offense starts clicking, the oline improves and the team gets it figured out and starts putting tons of points on the scoreboard?

The boys will definitely get it figured out.

 

[grizindabox]

Not sure I see what makes the offense so "gimmicky" either...

 

[first11]

Huh. I guess I've never viewed Stitt's offense as "gimmick". I'd argue that Read's offense was more "gimmicky" than Stitt's. Stitt wants to be fairly run/pass balanced; where he tries to get an advantage is with formation, motion and speed of offense.

You raise some good observations.....a better view will be as the season progresses as to effectiveness of Stitt approach on offense.

 

[Grisly Fan]

I suppose it might be deemed gimmicky since not a lot of other teams run this particular offense. By that measure you'd have to call the triple option a gimmick -- which I believe it is not. It is just not typical. Perhaps Stitt's insistence on going for it on 4th down could qualify as a gimmick -- if it wasn't backed by some rather compelling statistics. 4th downs aside, Oregon State runs an offense that is quite similar: fly sweeps, bubble screens, hot reads.

 

[mtgrizrule]

What do you all expect in an offense? Even when this offense is "struggling" and is inconsistent, it is putting up 400 yards plus of offense consistently. Do you realize, if the offense were scoring TD's instead of FG's in the Red Zone, we would all be praising Stitt and his offense? The bright side is, the GRIZ can only get better at Red Zone scoring.

Scarier yet, the offense only has a foundation to it. Imagine how great this offense will be as the players mature, get on the same page, and quit struggling in the red zone? I damn well know this offense is going to get it together! It will happen, be patient!!!

 

[Spanky]

Coach Stitt's offense is in place and ready to explode. When he is able to patch up further some weaker positions, watch out!! Anyone should be able to see if he is able to get 100% at all positions, we will be scoring 35-50 points every game.

 

[Mmont]

Coach Stitt's offense is in place and ready to explode. When he is able to patch up further some weaker positions, watch out!! Anyone should be able to see if he is able to get 100% at all positions, we will be scoring 35-50 points every game.

I agree. It takes time. A few more players that fit his system. An improved OL and just time for the QB to really learn the system and reads and they will be rolling. The Cats run a similar offense and are having no problem putting up a lot of points. Prukrop is much improved over last year being more comfortable at staying in the pocket and knowing all the reads thus making better decisions. That takes time.

 

[Grizzoola]

Stalled drives and field goals is what i saw a whole lot of? Defense won that game, they looked a lot better this week. Like I said when Gus gets back it'll get rolling again, Chalich sucks we need that Billings West boy slingin the rock around the yard.

I suspect those high on BG are high on him for this reason. It's a piss-poor reason. If he can produce, he'll be the guy; doesn't matter he's a West product.

 

[Grizzoola]

What do you all expect in an offense? Even when this offense is "struggling" and is inconsistent, it is putting up 400 yards plus of offense consistently. Do you realize, if the offense were scoring TD's instead of FG's in the Red Zone, we would all be praising Stitt and his offense? The bright side is, the GRIZ can only get better at Red Zone scoring.

Scarier yet, the offense only has a foundation to it. Imagine how great this offense will be as the players mature, get on the same page, and quit struggling in the red zone? I damn well know this offense is going to get it together! It will happen, be patient!!!

:clap: :clap: :thumb: :thumb:

 

[AZGrizFan]

What do you all expect in an offense? Even when this offense is "struggling" and is inconsistent, it is putting up 400 yards plus of offense consistently. Do you realize, if the offense were scoring TD's instead of FG's in the Red Zone, we would all be praising Stitt and his offense? The bright side is, the GRIZ can only get better at Red Zone scoring.

Scarier yet, the offense only has a foundation to it. Imagine how great this offense will be as the players mature, get on the same page, and quit struggling in the red zone? I damn well know this offense is going to get it together! It will happen, be patient!!!

Yep. 1000% agree. :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[first11]

My use of gimmicky offense appears to have hit a nerve to some. I may have overstated my case but I do not at this juncture have faith that Stitts approach will produce a high point average. Yup, we pile up yards but seem to stall in red zone.

Maybe...perhaps we just don't have Stitt athletes now, but can we recruit enough with those specific skills and depth to make it last a season? I certainly hope so.

Ok, so Stitt blew away DII teams, I just don't see it sustaining here at our level of competition. And I do believe that our red zone troubles are exacerbated with defenses having a shorter field to defend. We seem to roll along with a bigger field to work with..... but points not yards determine wins.

Only my opinion. I do hope I am proven wrong. I still think Stitt is a good hire but his approach will get some tweaking. I enjoy the debate with all responses.

 

[AZDoc]

Coach Stitt's offense is in place and ready to explode. When he is able to patch up further some weaker positions, watch out!! Anyone should be able to see if he is able to get 100% at all positions, we will be scoring 35-50 points every game.

Which positions specifically don't fit his offense or aren't "his type of player"?

 

[AZGrizFan]

My use of gimmicky offense appears to have hit a nerve to some. I may have overstated my case but I do not at this juncture have faith that Stitts approach will produce a high point average. Yup, we pile up yards but seem to stall in red zone.

Maybe...perhaps we just don't have Stitt athletes now, but can we recruit enough with those specific skills and depth to make it last a season? I certainly hope so.

Ok, so Stitt blew away DII teams, I just don't see it sustaining here at our level of competition. And I do believe that our red zone troubles are exacerbated with defenses having a shorter field to defend. We seem to roll along with a bigger field to work with..... but points not yards determine wins.

Only my opinion. I do hope I am proven wrong. I still think Stitt is a good hire but his approach will get some tweaking. I enjoy the debate with all responses.

The issue isn't the "athletes" in this system.....it's the O-line he inherited....that's where the team starts and stops...it was said before the season and it bears repeating: this team will go only as far as the O-line development takes it.

 

[Hammer]

My use of gimmicky offense appears to have hit a nerve to some. I may have overstated my case but I do not at this juncture have faith that Stitts approach will produce a high point average. Yup, we pile up yards but seem to stall in red zone.

Maybe...perhaps we just don't have Stitt athletes now, but can we recruit enough with those specific skills and depth to make it last a season? I certainly hope so.

Ok, so Stitt blew away DII teams, I just don't see it sustaining here at our level of competition. And I do believe that our red zone troubles are exacerbated with defenses having a shorter field to defend. We seem to roll along with a bigger field to work with..... but points not yards determine wins.

Only my opinion. I do hope I am proven wrong. I still think Stitt is a good hire but his approach will get some tweaking. I enjoy the debate with all responses.

The issue isn't the "athletes" in this system.....it's the O-line he inherited....that's where the team starts and stops...it was said before the season and it bears repeating: this team will go only as far as the O-line development takes it.

Absolutely the truth! And it's true at every level of football. The game is won and lost in the trenches!

 

[NLGrizFan]

No O line is like taking a road trip with bald tires....

 

[brewskis]

Coach Stitt's offense is in place and ready to explode. When he is able to patch up further some weaker positions, watch out!! Anyone should be able to see if he is able to get 100% at all positions, we will be scoring 35-50 points every game.

Which positions specifically don't fit his offense or aren't "his type of player"?

Our offensive line doesn't fit any offense.

I think Stitt believes that this offense really is tough for the QB to master. He's pleased with Chalich (according to the presser) and it sounds like Chalich is still leaving some plays on the field. So more time with QB's learning the offense will be a good thing.

I'm sort of in the Growler-corner on "types of players" and I think that talent is pretty transferable to any offense. Stitt just requires more WRs and no TEs or FBs.

 

[The_Real_Chief]

Stalled drives and field goals is what i saw a whole lot of? Defense won that game, they looked a lot better this week. Like I said when Gus gets back it'll get rolling again, Chalich sucks we need that Billings West boy slingin the rock around the yard.

I suspect those high on BG are high on him for this reason. It's a piss-poor reason. If he can produce, he'll be the guy; doesn't matter he's a West product.

I does matter if you went to West, although I did like Selle better than Brady. Would have been fun to see what he could have done without the injury back in 2010

 

[grizcountry420]

Stalled drives and field goals is what i saw a whole lot of? Defense won that game, they looked a lot better this week. Like I said when Gus gets back it'll get rolling again, Chalich sucks we need that Billings West boy slingin the rock around the yard.

I suspect those high on BG are high on him for this reason. It's a piss-poor reason. If he can produce, he'll be the guy; doesn't matter he's a West product.

I does matter if you went to West, although I did like Selle better than Brady. Would have been fun to see what he could have done without the injury back in 2010

Johnny Montana was probably the best QB that came out of Billings West..

 

[ranco]

Coach Stitt's offense is in place and ready to explode. When he is able to patch up further some weaker positions, watch out!! Anyone should be able to see if he is able to get 100% at all positions, we will be scoring 35-50 points every game.

Which positions specifically don't fit his offense or aren't "his type of player"?

Our offensive line doesn't fit any offense.

I think Stitt believes that this offense really is tough for the QB to master. He's pleased with Chalich (according to the presser) and it sounds like Chalich is still leaving some plays on the field. So more time with QB's learning the offense will be a good thing.

I'm sort of in the Growler-corner on "types of players" and I think that talent is pretty transferable to any offense. Stitt just requires more WRs and no TEs or FBs.

I generally agree with that as well, the talent is transferable. Notably, Stitt's offense is much better than Delaney's offense even though there is a lot less talent this year... ie: no Jordy Johnson and no Canada. If Stitt had those two players this year, I'm certain we would be scoring a lot more touchdowns.

 

[AZDoc]

Coach Stitt's offense is in place and ready to explode. When he is able to patch up further some weaker positions, watch out!! Anyone should be able to see if he is able to get 100% at all positions, we will be scoring 35-50 points every game.

Which positions specifically don't fit his offense or aren't "his type of player"?

Our offensive line doesn't fit any offense.

I think Stitt believes that this offense really is tough for the QB to master. He's pleased with Chalich (according to the presser) and it sounds like Chalich is still leaving some plays on the field. So more time with QB's learning the offense will be a good thing.

I'm sort of in the Growler-corner on "types of players" and I think that talent is pretty transferable to any offense. Stitt just requires more WRs and no TEs or FBs.

I generally agree with that as well, the talent is transferable. Notably, Stitt's offense is much better than Delaney's offense even though there is a lot less talent this year... ie: no Jordy Johnson and no Canada. If Stitt had those two players this year, I'm certain we would be scoring a lot more touchdowns.

OK just making sure really the issue is the O-line. I think that any of the backs are "his type" as they all can get it done if given holes. and QB imo is just a huge learning curve and they will all be better at the end of the year. was hoping someone didn't think the WR position was a problem!