Where are the Mods?

[firmgriz]

The mods should do something about all these damn annoying pop up ads! This place is getting to be about unreadable. It’s not fun visiting the site anymore just to navigate through ads everywhere including in the middle of folks’ posts. That’s over the line. WTH.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

The mods should do something about all these damn annoying pop up ads! This place is getting to be about unreadable. It’s not fun visiting the site anymore just to navigate through ads everywhere including in the middle of folks’ posts. That’s over the line. WTH.

Agreed. They usually don't bug me that much, but they have started covering content. That's lame.

 

[bigsky33]

From the Daily Montanan article you posted, it appears that the University took numerous actions with regard to these complaints. Doesn't appear they ignored harassment. There are two sides to every story. It appears you are only interested in one side. Just saying.

The article says the MSU administration held events in response to the death threats and racist things happening on campus, but did they investigate to attempt to identify the individuals responsible? I think that's what the federal investigation is about.

Also, dissolving a no-contact order protecting a young woman as part of a settlement to save your own ass is absolute coward sh*t. There's no "two sides" to that part. That administration is true garbage.

They took numerous actions;
The morning after the Queer Straight Alliance received its first threat, Ellig said Cruzado led an emergency meeting in her office and “emphasized the seriousness of the incident and the need for immediate action.”

Ellig said directors and leaders of the Office of Diversity and Inclusion, the Diversity and Inclusion Student Commons, Dean of Students Office, University Police, University Student Housing, and others were directed to reach out to the MSU LGBTQ+ community to provide support.

Through the semester, Ellig said university administrators met with a wide range of students and offered help, including through counseling and a teach-in to brainstorm how to create “a sense of belonging for all students.”

The article went on to say they also held numerous events on campus with students a faculty. I believe law enforcement investigates these situations to identify the students involved and details surrounding the event. It was stated in the article that law enforcement did do that. Also, stated in the article, the no-contact order in the case you mentioned, was lifted after 17 months. Is that a reasonable amount of time? I guess it depends on the facts of that particular case which we do not have.

I don't think the actions outlined above can be characterized as ignoring the harassment. It appears MSU was pro-active. The DOJ investigation will determine if that is so or not.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

The article says the MSU administration held events in response to the death threats and racist things happening on campus, but did they investigate to attempt to identify the individuals responsible? I think that's what the federal investigation is about.

Also, dissolving a no-contact order protecting a young woman as part of a settlement to save your own ass is absolute coward sh*t. There's no "two sides" to that part. That administration is true garbage.

They took numerous actions;
The morning after the Queer Straight Alliance received its first threat, Ellig said Cruzado led an emergency meeting in her office and “emphasized the seriousness of the incident and the need for immediate action.”

Ellig said directors and leaders of the Office of Diversity and Inclusion, the Diversity and Inclusion Student Commons, Dean of Students Office, University Police, University Student Housing, and others were directed to reach out to the MSU LGBTQ+ community to provide support.

Through the semester, Ellig said university administrators met with a wide range of students and offered help, including through counseling and a teach-in to brainstorm how to create “a sense of belonging for all students.”

The article went on to say they also held numerous events on campus with students a faculty. I believe law enforcement investigates these situations to identify the students involved and details surrounding the event. It was stated in the article that law enforcement did do that. Also, stated in the article, the no-contact order in the case you mentioned, was lifted after 17 months. Is that a reasonable amount of time? I guess it depends on the facts of that particular case which we do not have.

I don't think the actions outlined above can be characterized as ignoring the harassment. It appears MSU was pro-active. The DOJ investigation will determine if that is so or not.

Yeah, I read it, too. I'm not sure what you stated differently in your copy/paste that I didn't state in my first sentence that you quoted.

"Pro-active" is not the way that I would describe it. "Delayed reaction after complaints" is more accurate if the article is correct. Which, you seem to agree that it is given your citation to it in defense of the administration.

Lastly, taking a protective order away from a student so MSU can settle a lawsuit is inexcusable no matter the timeframe. No wonder she didn't feel safe there. Great work, Waded & Co. Really knocking it out of the park lately. :roll:

 

[bigsky33]

They took numerous actions;
The morning after the "bleep" Straight Alliance received its first threat, Ellig said Cruzado led an emergency meeting in her office and “emphasized the seriousness of the incident and the need for immediate action.”

Ellig said directors and leaders of the Office of Diversity and Inclusion, the Diversity and Inclusion Student Commons, Dean of Students Office, University Police, University Student Housing, and others were directed to reach out to the MSU LGBTQ+ community to provide support.

Through the semester, Ellig said university administrators met with a wide range of students and offered help, including through counseling and a teach-in to brainstorm how to create “a sense of belonging for all students.”

The article went on to say they also held numerous events on campus with students a faculty. I believe law enforcement investigates these situations to identify the students involved and details surrounding the event. It was stated in the article that law enforcement did do that. Also, stated in the article, the no-contact order in the case you mentioned, was lifted after 17 months. Is that a reasonable amount of time? I guess it depends on the facts of that particular case which we do not have.

I don't think the actions outlined above can be characterized as ignoring the harassment. It appears MSU was pro-active. The DOJ investigation will determine if that is so or not.

Yeah, I read it, too. I'm not sure what you stated differently in your copy/paste that I didn't state in my first sentence that you quoted.

"Pro-active" is not the way that I would describe it. "Delayed reaction after complaints" is more accurate if the article is correct. Which, you seem to agree that it is given your citation to it in defense of the administration.

Lastly, taking a protective order away from a student so MSU can settle a lawsuit is inexcusable no matter the timeframe. No wonder she didn't feel safe there. Great work, Waded & Co. Really knocking it out of the park lately. :roll:

Like I wrote on the protective order case, we have no facts as to that whole situation. We don't know anything about the context of the settlement and how it relates to the individual and lifting the protective order. It might have been perfectly the right thing to do. Your assumptions may be off base. I take it you know the definition of assume lol.

 

[uofmman1122]

Yeah, I read it, too. I'm not sure what you stated differently in your copy/paste that I didn't state in my first sentence that you quoted.

"Pro-active" is not the way that I would describe it. "Delayed reaction after complaints" is more accurate if the article is correct. Which, you seem to agree that it is given your citation to it in defense of the administration.

Lastly, taking a protective order away from a student so MSU can settle a lawsuit is inexcusable no matter the timeframe. No wonder she didn't feel safe there. Great work, Waded & Co. Really knocking it out of the park lately. :roll:

Like I wrote on the protective order case, we have no facts as to that whole situation. We don't know anything about the context of the settlement and how it relates to the individual and lifting the protective order. It might have been perfectly the right thing to do. Your assumptions may be off base. I take it you know the definition of assume lol.

Funny, you had a very different attitude towards this kind of stuff when it was UM being investigated in 2013:

Sometimes when your so close to things you just don't see it. I don't think the NCAA and DOJ would still be there if there is nothing wrong. Just my opinion. The facts will come out. Right now you have so many people on here stating things that are just based on emotions and heresay. Hopefully all will work out and you guys can get on with talking about football.

 

[bigsky33]

Like I wrote on the protective order case, we have no facts as to that whole situation. We don't know anything about the context of the settlement and how it relates to the individual and lifting the protective order. It might have been perfectly the right thing to do. Your assumptions may be off base. I take it you know the definition of assume lol.

Funny, you had a very different attitude towards this kind of stuff when it was UM being investigated in 2013:

Sometimes when your so close to things you just don't see it. I don't think the NCAA and DOJ would still be there if there is nothing wrong. Just my opinion. The facts will come out. Right now you have so many people on here stating things that are just based on emotions and heresay. Hopefully all will work out and you guys can get on with talking about football.

I think that is what I said in this situation. The DOJ investigation will determine if MSU actions were inadequate. The facts will come out.

 

[3-7-77]

DOJ??? DOE got involved. Where did DOJ figure into this?

 

[EverettGriz]

Or perhaps one on the university continuing to employee coaches with multiple criminal charges? Or perhaps the university ignoring harassment of the LGBTQ community to the point the DOE has begun an investigation? poop, those are far more interesting and worthwhile than a 40 minute recap of one game the bubs finally won.

From the Daily Montanan article you posted, it appears that the University took numerous actions with regard to these complaints. Doesn't appear they ignored harassment. There are two sides to every story. It appears you are only interested in one side. Just saying.

Did we read the same article?????

 

[EverettGriz]

Like I wrote on the protective order case, we have no facts as to that whole situation. We don't know anything about the context of the settlement and how it relates to the individual and lifting the protective order. It might have been perfectly the right thing to do. Your assumptions may be off base. I take it you know the definition of assume lol.

Funny, you had a very different attitude towards this kind of stuff when it was UM being investigated in 2013:

Sometimes when your so close to things you just don't see it. I don't think the NCAA and DOJ would still be there if there is nothing wrong. Just my opinion. The facts will come out. Right now you have so many people on here stating things that are just based on emotions and heresay. Hopefully all will work out and you guys can get on with talking about football.

Hahahahaha!! Great find 1122

 

[EverettGriz]

MsdUi's leadership has not only been stepping in it lately, but man, they are tracking it all over their house.

 

[uofmman1122]

Funny, you had a very different attitude towards this kind of stuff when it was UM being investigated in 2013:

Hahahahaha!! Great find 1122

It was genuinely out of curiosity, like "I wonder what these cat fans that have been around a long time were saying back then?", and this was like the first thing that popped up, I didn't even have to look. :lol:

But I'm sure there isn't a treasure trove of hypocritical posts back then from the likes of bigsky and poorgriz, though. :lol:

 

[EverettGriz]

Hahahahaha!! Great find 1122

It was genuinely out of curiosity, like "I wonder what these cat fans that have been around a long time were saying back then?", and this was like the first thing that popped up, I didn't even have to look. :lol:

But I'm sure there isn't a treasure trove of hypocritical posts back then from the likes of bigsky and poorgriz, though. :lol:

Nooooo!

 

[cclarkblues]

The mods should do something about all these damn annoying pop up ads! This place is getting to be about unreadable. It’s not fun visiting the site anymore just to navigate through ads everywhere including in the middle of folks’ posts. That’s over the line. WTH.

1. Mods have NOTHING to do with ads.

2. I don't see any of you geniuses offering to do the dirty work. Apparently y'all just want to bitch. And to quote Dr. Sheldon Cooper PHD's mailman, "Bitches be crazy. "

 

[bigsky33]

Hahahahaha!! Great find 1122

It was genuinely out of curiosity, like "I wonder what these cat fans that have been around a long time were saying back then?", and this was like the first thing that popped up, I didn't even have to look. :lol:

But I'm sure there isn't a treasure trove of hypocritical posts back then from the likes of bigsky and poorgriz, though. :lol:

However, you screwed it up. My posts on this are not hypocritical at all. What I said about this situation is the same as I did in the old post that you found. I said in this case that the DOE will determine if the actions MSU were adequate or not. Just read back in this thread or the other thread on this subject. Of course the DOE is involved because there is a problem. That is obvious. That’s why they are investigating. They will get the facts. No different than what I said in the UM case you pointed out.

 

[3-7-77]

Hmmm....BigGameBob can sh*t all over eGriz, and WHAT is it you, or any Mod, do about it? Asking for a friend.

 

[uofmman1122]

It was genuinely out of curiosity, like "I wonder what these cat fans that have been around a long time were saying back then?", and this was like the first thing that popped up, I didn't even have to look. :lol:

But I'm sure there isn't a treasure trove of hypocritical posts back then from the likes of bigsky and poorgriz, though. :lol:

However, you screwed it up. My posts on this are not hypocritical at all. What I said about this situation is the same as I did in the old post that you found. I said in this case that the DOE will determine if the actions MSU were adequate or not. Just read back in this thread or the other thread on this subject. Of course the DOE is involved because there is a problem. That is obvious. That’s why they are investigating. They will get the facts. No different than what I said in the UM case you pointed out.

You're completely ignoring the bolded part of the quote. You've done this for everything that's come out against msu. You'll say things like "everything will come out, let's see how it goes", but it's clear you don't think msu did anything wrong, just like it's clear from your old post that you thought UM did.

You've posted enough on both of these topics for everyone to see your bias is very evident. Just own it, dude.

 

[Wolf777]

However, you screwed it up. My posts on this are not hypocritical at all. What I said about this situation is the same as I did in the old post that you found. I said in this case that the DOE will determine if the actions MSU were adequate or not. Just read back in this thread or the other thread on this subject. Of course the DOE is involved because there is a problem. That is obvious. That’s why they are investigating. They will get the facts. No different than what I said in the UM case you pointed out.

You're completely ignoring the bolded part of the quote. You've done this for everything that's come out against msu. You'll say things like "everything will come out, let's see how it goes", but it's clear you don't think msu did anything wrong, just like it's clear from your old post that you thought UM did.

You've posted enough on both of these topics for everyone to see your bias is very evident. Just own it, dude.

I think he’s more confident just saying we will see when it all comes out because he’s pretty positive with the behind the scenes work in Bozoville that nothing will ever be allowed to see the light of day.

 

[EverettGriz]

It was genuinely out of curiosity, like "I wonder what these cat fans that have been around a long time were saying back then?", and this was like the first thing that popped up, I didn't even have to look. :lol:

But I'm sure there isn't a treasure trove of hypocritical posts back then from the likes of bigsky and poorgriz, though. :lol:

However, you screwed it up. My posts on this are not hypocritical at all. What I said about this situation is the same as I did in the old post that you found. I said in this case that the DOE will determine if the actions MSU were adequate or not. Just read back in this thread or the other thread on this subject. Of course the DOE is involved because there is a problem. That is obvious. That’s why they are investigating. They will get the facts. No different than what I said in the UM case you pointed out.

So we all agree, then, the DOE wouldn't be there if there wasn't issues.

 

[bigsky33]

However, you screwed it up. My posts on this are not hypocritical at all. What I said about this situation is the same as I did in the old post that you found. I said in this case that the DOE will determine if the actions MSU were adequate or not. Just read back in this thread or the other thread on this subject. Of course the DOE is involved because there is a problem. That is obvious. That’s why they are investigating. They will get the facts. No different than what I said in the UM case you pointed out.

So we all agree, then, the DOE wouldn't be there if there wasn't issues.

Why would they be there if there wasn’t issues? Like I said it is obvious. You have students telling stories and you have MSU giving their side. Thus, the DOE will investigate and find the actual facts. Not hard to understand.