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Where are all the don't go for it on 4th down haters?

PlayerRep

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As others have already noted, the critics of going for it on 4th down, especially near the goal line, seem to have disappeared. It's amazing what a difference converting on a play, and not fumbling it for a 98 yard fumble return, makes. Does anyone think that short FG kicks are automatic this year?
 
PlayerRep said:
As others have already noted, the critics of going for it on 4th down, especially near the goal line, seem to have disappeared. It's amazing what a difference converting on a play, and not fumbling it for a 98 yard fumble return, makes. Does anyone think that short FG kicks are automatic this year?
I just hope we don't lose a game this year because we go for it on 4th down in lieu of a 42 yard field goal... :egriz:
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Here come the excuses......... :roll:
Totally different circumstances.
Against NAU we were down two scores and struggling to put points on the board.
Against UCD, we're leading by 14, not giving up anything defensively, and was following two missed FG attempts by our True Freshman kicker.
Not even a close comparison.
Go Griz!
 
GottaluvGriz said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Here come the excuses......... :roll:
Totally different circumstances.
Against NAU we were down two scores and struggling to put points on the board.
Against UCD, we're leading by 14, not giving up anything defensively, and was following two missed FG attempts by our True Freshman kicker.
Not even a close comparison.
Go Griz!

I would argue that it is more important to go for it when you're down 14 and struggling. You have to show confidence in your team. You have to find a way to get back in the game. You have to take chances, not be conservative. College football isn't the NFL. Also, even if you don't make it from the 2, you've got the opponent near their goal line, with 2.5 minutes to go, and 3 timeouts. The true frosh kickers is our starting kicker; he beat out the other guy.
 
Ursa Major said:
AZGrizFan said:
We weren't down 14-0 this time.

+1 Different circumstances all together. You can't boil this down to just going for it on 4th. That's too simplistic.

It was more important to go for it at NAU, because we were down 14 and struggling. We had to find a way to get back in the game. Trying a FG isn't the way to get back in a game or show confidence in your offense. Why can't some of you just admit that the call was at least fine, or better yet, that the call was the right call.
 
PlayerRep said:
Ursa Major said:
AZGrizFan said:
We weren't down 14-0 this time.

+1 Different circumstances all together. You can't boil this down to just going for it on 4th. That's too simplistic.

It was more important to go for it at NAU, because we were down 14 and struggling. We had to find a way to get back in the game. Trying a FG isn't the way to get back in a game or show confidence in your offense. Why can't some of you just admit that the call was at least fine, or better yet, that the call was the right call.
Disagree. It was more important to put points on the board that early in the game at NAU. Last night we could afford to gamble because we were ahead. On at least one, the one JJ took, of those 4th down plays I think we should've kicked the FG. Luckily it worked out though. As for the one on the goal line, at least they ran it straight up the middle instead of a slow developing play around the edge. Now if they'd just learn to use Counts in those situation, I'd be a lot more comfortable with those calls.
 
Wrong again...........snap your current streak and say something smart and correct. Ask for help to compose one post that isnt completely retarded.
 
PlayerRep said:
Ursa Major said:
AZGrizFan said:
We weren't down 14-0 this time.

+1 Different circumstances all together. You can't boil this down to just going for it on 4th. That's too simplistic.

It was more important to go for it at NAU, because we were down 14 and struggling. We had to find a way to get back in the game. Trying a FG isn't the way to get back in a game or show confidence in your offense. Why can't some of you just admit that the call was at least fine, or better yet, that the call was the right call.

Given the circumstances of being in the lead and clearly outplaying your opponent to that point in the game, I say go for it on 4th and less than 1 to break the will of the other team.

Given the circumstances of being down and clearly being outplayed by your opponent to that point in the game, being 2 yards out to an opponent with a talented defense, I say kick the FG. Take the points, get the momentum and live to fight again with the 3rd quarter kick-off.

PR, these are all opinions. You seem to want to seek some objective truth. You're not going to find it.

What gets me about the NAU play is the play calling. I hate rolling the qb to the short side. We did this a lot last year on third down plays and near the goal line. We are NOT fooling anyone. I would rather see us run up the gut with Wilson plowing a path for Counts.
 
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
Ursa Major said:
AZGrizFan said:
We weren't down 14-0 this time.

+1 Different circumstances all together. You can't boil this down to just going for it on 4th. That's too simplistic.

It was more important to go for it at NAU, because we were down 14 and struggling. We had to find a way to get back in the game. Trying a FG isn't the way to get back in a game or show confidence in your offense. Why can't some of you just admit that the call was at least fine, or better yet, that the call was the right call.
Disagree. It was more important to put points on the board that early in the game at NAU. Last night we could afford to gamble because we were ahead. On at least one, the one JJ took, of those 4th down plays I think we should've kicked the FG. Luckily it worked out though. As for the one on the goal line, at least they ran it straight up the middle instead of a slow developing play around the edge. Now if they'd just learn to use Counts in those situation, I'd be a lot more comfortable with those calls.

Disagree. The end of the first half is not "early in the game". It was important to find a way to turn things around and get some momentum. Getting 3 points at that time would not have been a big deal. Anticipating that there would be a 98 yard fumble return was impossible.
 
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