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When JJ is found Not Guilty, then what?
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Gametime said:
I completely disagree.
stubbins said:
Well, then we agree completely on our complete disagreement!!
grizbrokebacker1
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I'm not at all familiar with the revised UM Code of Conduct so hopefully someone could answer this question. If JJ returns to the UM football team (I'm inclined to think he might transfer to Weber to play for Pflugrad), would he face any possible suspension of practice and/or game time due to underage drinking? I'm not sure if Delaney or the U has an official policy on that?
grizbrokebacker1 said:
I would think the season he missed would probably suffice, cover any punishment for underage drinking.
grizbrokebacker1
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grizindabox said:
Good point. In regards to the transfer issue, I'm not so sure he wouldn't petition the NCAA for another year of eligibility and I think he'd have a good case.
grizbrokebacker1 said:
Since the NCAA is currently investigating UM for whatever reason during all this, they may not be willing to help out anyone trying to get out.
You only have 10 semesters to complete 8 semesters of play. NCAA will not waiver on the requirement to sit out a year in order to acclimate academically at the new institution. The only way to avoid the transfer rule is to have fulfilled your undergraduate degree and transfer to a new institution for a graduate degree in a program your former school doesn't offer.grizbrokebacker1 said:
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statler & waldorf
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How about a comprehensive list of all of those posters who ripped JJ, with perhaps, a special highlighting of their user name for eternity. Lest we forget.
grizindabox said:
One could run and hide. But I for one think JJ has enough character to stay on, given the chance. I know he'll have several thousand of his Griz Nation friends ready to welcome him back following acquittal. Of course there will be agenda driven hand wringers who will treat him as a convict no matter what but those people don't matter and never did. Jordy should stay. He'll have plenty of support here.
mtgrizrule
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Buttegrizzle said:
This incident would follow him anywhere he goes. After dealing with this, do you honestly think anything a fan could say would bother him? He will never go through a more difficult personal circumstance again in his life. I support any decision he makes. I do know, there is no way in hell I would want to rehash all this crap again with new teammates, new students, new coaches, and a new fan base.
He learned who his true friends are through all this. He probably has quite a few GRIZ teammates who will be friends for life now. They know him. They won't rehash this with him over and over. The GRIZ staff, and players have gone through hell and back by his side. Also, he will have the majority of GRIZNATION behind him. NO fcs fanbase can give him the support GRIZNATION can. He will have his detractors, and ass holes no matter where he is at. Might as well surround himself with as many positives as possible. I know I would not want to start over, when I already have a great extended family where I am at. Everyone of his teammates, coaches, and a majority of the community will welcome him back with open arms. I am sure he will face this like a man. The toughest is about to be put behind him. His life can only get better again from here.
Let me be the 1st to welcome back if he is found not guilty and chooses to remain a GRIZ!
If he is acquitted, he should hold his head high, ignore his detractors (there will be many) and pursue whatever goals he has set for himself.
grizindabox said:
Did you read the entire post? Or did you just respond like the caveman you are with a stupid one word answer?
It is not just JJ I was talking about. This is as divisive a issue as the University and Missoula has faced in a long time. For JJ's sake I agree he shouldn't run and hide. I don't think he raped the girl. But at the same time, his stupid decision got him exactly where he is. He could have gotten her pregnant, a STD, or had her freak out when he ignored her. The outcome on this was never going to be good. He led her on, he took advantage of her and now he is paying the price for a dumb college aged decision. Right or wrong, many have done it in the past and many others will do the same in the future, but that certainly doesn't make it a smart decision.
So JJ whines and cries that he is wrongfully accused of a crime. He should take a good hard look in the mirror and figure out who and what part of his body got him in this mess. Reality, he had bad quick sex with a wacky girl. He's lucky he didn't get her pregnant at the same time and then he would have another big dose of reality.
I'm sure, as many can testify to, that JJ is a great guy most of the time. But to sit her and feel sorry for the dumba$$ who cheated on his girlfriend and wanted a quickie with no consequences, I won't do it. As a quarterback you are supposed to be a leader, better than others, smarter than others, and make the right decisions. In this situation he was none of the above. I am assuming he has grown up a lot from this situation and won't do it again. But as I tell my child, there are consequences for bad decisions. Some small, some big. This is clearly the big kind of consequence.
My point was that when he is found not guilty this issue will go on and on and on for the time that he remains at this school. Many will support him, while others will continue to feel he got away with raping a innocent girl. Either way the issue festers.
In the big picture, it would be better for the University, Community, the State if he were gone. Many outside Missoula and the State of Montana who have no dog in this fight, think this a joke what the UM Athletes have gotten away with. This will likely confirm their thoughts.
Please explain why it would be better for the University and the community if an innocent man -- who by all other accounts seems to be a pretty damn good kid -- leaves town?
If people have troubles with that, the issues are not with Jordy or the University of Montana. The issues are their own.
And your last sentence really sums up your entire position, doesn't it? No matter what 12 jury members believe after listening to the testimony, you believe he's guilty no matter what.
What UM athletes get away with. Please.
There should be only one "away", and that's where we all hope you go.
If people have troubles with that, the issues are not with Jordy or the University of Montana. The issues are their own.
And your last sentence really sums up your entire position, doesn't it? No matter what 12 jury members believe after listening to the testimony, you believe he's guilty no matter what.
What UM athletes get away with. Please.
There should be only one "away", and that's where we all hope you go.
mtgrizrule
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Where on Earth are all these perfect do gooders coming from all of the sudden?
The majority of us male or female, have taken advantage of someone, and/or were taken advantage of by the opposite sex at some point in our lives. More than than likely, most of us were in our teens or 20's when it happened too.
What sheltered world do you live in, or what are you on to escape reality? I sure in the hell could use some of what ever it is, where ever you are at.
The majority of us male or female, have taken advantage of someone, and/or were taken advantage of by the opposite sex at some point in our lives. More than than likely, most of us were in our teens or 20's when it happened too.
What sheltered world do you live in, or what are you on to escape reality? I sure in the hell could use some of what ever it is, where ever you are at.
