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When is it going to leak out or get announced that Vigen is departing?

Bobcat99 said:
Your memory is getting pretty poor old man. Regardless, I would expect most good RB's to e able to run away from a DT. That's to be expected.

I have to say, considering the Griz ran for more yards per carry, have more all conference players, have the better coach, passed for more yards, it's a miracle you lost in your own house.
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It took damn near a miracle.

you guys gunna make another movie about it?
 
As the sayings go you can’t make a housewife out of a hoe or a tiger cannot change his stripes. Brent Vigen keeps showing us his stripes interviewing for these other jobs and it is only a matter of time before he is gone. #vigenahoe
 
5280Griz said:
As the sayings go you can’t make a housewife out of a hoe or a tiger cannot change his stripes. Brent Vigen keeps showing us his stripes interviewing for these other jobs and it is only a matter of time before he is gone. #vigenahoe
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I don't think anybody realistically expects or should even want an FCS coach to be a lifer. At this level, if you're good, you're going to have option to move up. And that's what realistically every good coach is going to do.
 
Bobcat99 said:
I don't think anybody realistically expects or should even want an FCS coach to be a lifer. At this level, if you're good, you're going to have option to move up. And that's what realistically every good coach is going to do.
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Wrong Bobby Hauck and Tim Polasek are not going to leave where they are in the FCS at this point in their careers. MSU is a stepping stone program while NDSU and UM are not. NDSU and UM are also the 2 best FCS programs all time depending on what your metric is you could put either at one. MSU is not even close which makes sense why you are a stepping stone program.
 
5280Griz said:
Wrong Bobby Hauck and Tim Polasek are not going to leave where they are in the FCS at this point in their careers. MSU is a stepping stone program while NDSU and UM are not. NDSU and UM are also the 2 best FCS programs all time depending on what your metric is you could put either at one. MSU is not even close which makes sense why you are a stepping stone program.
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This is laughable. How many coaches prior to Polasek used NDSU as a stepping stone? Hauck used Montana as a stepping stone, and no one else has because they all failed.
 
5280Griz said:
Wrong Bobby Hauck and Tim Polasek are not going to leave where they are in the FCS at this point in their careers. MSU is a stepping stone program while NDSU and UM are not. NDSU and UM are also the 2 best FCS programs all time depending on what your metric is you could put either at one. MSU is not even close which makes sense why you are a stepping stone program.
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Montana and NDSU are 100% stepping stone programs. The only difference right now is Bobby Hauck is 61 years old and likely is looking at Montana to be his retirement spot. That's what makes the NDSUs, SDSUs, Montanas, and MSUs different. These are programs with such a high pedigree that coaches want to coach here if it means it can elevate them to other career opportunities in the FBS. And being a stepping stone is not an insult. Programs should want to be stepping stones for coaches, because that means if your coach is leaving, it's most likely due to that coach continuing the level of success the program expects.

NDSU:
Craig Bohl (2003-2013) - Left for Wyoming
Chris Klieman (2014 -2018) - Left for Kansas State
Matt Entz (2019-2023) - Left for assistant role with USC in 2024, Head coach at Fresno State in 2025.
Tim Polasek (2024 - present)

Montana:
Bobby Hauck 1.0 (2003 - 2009 - Left for UNLV (he was 45 years old)
Robin Pflugrad (2010 - 2011) - Fired before he could get settled in.
Mick Delaney (2012 - 2014) - Came out of retirement to save the program (69 years old)
Bob Stitt (2015 -2017) - Struggled to be consistent at Montana. Was 50 when he was hired.
Bobby Hauck (2018 - present) - Was 54 when hired, now is 61. Likely coasting to retirement now.

If anything, Montana has not truly been a stepping stone program since Bobby Hauck's first tenure. Bob Stitt had an opportunity to be the first since, but he royally F'd that opportunity up haha. We've since become a program that either fires the coaches for not producing results, or a place for coaches to retire.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
I love it when the only thing someone ever adds to a football discussion is thier lack of football knowledge.
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Are you talking about yourself?
Like how you have been pretending to be a Griz fan for almost two decades?!?
Doesn’t it get tiring. Seems so exhausting to me. Like who the fuck spends the peak of their lifetime acting like such a loser?
Bub trolls. That’s who.
 
garizzalies said:
Are you talking about yourself?
Like how you have been pretending to be a Griz fan for almost two decades?!?
Doesn’t it get tiring. Seems so exhausting to me. Like who the fuck spends the peak of their lifetime acting like such a loser?
Bub trolls. That’s who.
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More incredible football insights from garizzalies.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
More incredible football insights from garizzalies.
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More lame trolling from snookims.
20 years and counting!! 😂
I think it’s hilarious that last year, when the bubz had their greatest year ever, you just could not help outing yourself.
Like a con artist with a crack addiction.
All that good will down the drain
 
garizzalies said:
Are you talking about yourself?
Like how you have been pretending to be a Griz fan for almost two decades?!?
Doesn’t it get tiring. Seems so exhausting to me. Like who the fuck spends the peak of their lifetime acting like such a loser?
Bub trolls. That’s who.
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I liked Skookum's initial comment. Thought it was good, insightful and funny. Skookum isn't nearly as bad as many of these sometime posters, and, now the took all my money, we've become friends. He's more knowledgeable than I had thought. I don't pay attention to posts and posters like I used to. I can't even remember who I bet, and have to ask them to show me the bet. Ha.
 
5280Griz said:
The Griz probably have a similar amount of FCS playoff appearances as all the other teams you listed combined whereas NDSU probably have a similar amount of FCS championships as all the other teams you listed combined.
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Rings matter and I don't care if We have 30 appearances all of this teams have the Championships. One could even argue getting there and losing is a slight detraction from your previously incorrect post. We are not top 5 all time in the FCS
 
get'em_griz said:
Montana and NDSU are 100% stepping stone programs. The only difference right now is Bobby Hauck is 61 years old and likely is looking at Montana to be his retirement spot. That's what makes the NDSUs, SDSUs, Montanas, and MSUs different. These are programs with such a high pedigree that coaches want to coach here if it means it can elevate them to other career opportunities in the FBS. And being a stepping stone is not an insult. Programs should want to be stepping stones for coaches, because that means if your coach is leaving, it's most likely due to that coach continuing the level of success the program expects.

NDSU:
Craig Bohl (2003-2013) - Left for Wyoming
Chris Klieman (2014 -2018) - Left for Kansas State
Matt Entz (2019-2023) - Left for assistant role with USC in 2024, Head coach at Fresno State in 2025.
Tim Polasek (2024 - present)

Montana:
Bobby Hauck 1.0 (2003 - 2009 - Left for UNLV (he was 45 years old)
Robin Pflugrad (2010 - 2011) - Fired before he could get settled in.
Mick Delaney (2012 - 2014) - Came out of retirement to save the program (69 years old)
Bob Stitt (2015 -2017) - Struggled to be consistent at Montana. Was 50 when he was hired.
Bobby Hauck (2018 - present) - Was 54 when hired, now is 61. Likely coasting to retirement now.

If anything, Montana has not truly been a stepping stone program since Bobby Hauck's first tenure. Bob Stitt had an opportunity to be the first since, but he royally F'd that opportunity up haha. We've since become a program that either fires the coaches for not producing results, or a place for coaches to retire.
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I would rather be a place for coaches to retire than leave especially in the new transfer portal era which most of NDSU’s churn was prior to and Bobby 1.0 was way prior to. Nowadays the best coaches and players leave with the coach going FBS. It can work to reload quickly because the FCS isn’t that good but it is also possible to take some steps back like Idaho did this season.
 
A lot of people care about 30 playoff appearances and would put Montana as the top program having success over many different eras. Montana was winning championships while NDSU was D2 for a lot of history. The App State, JMU etc aren’t in FCS anymore. SDSU was winless in FCS playoffs 10 years ago.
 
5280Griz said:
Wrong Bobby Hauck and Tim Polasek are not going to leave where they are in the FCS at this point in their careers. MSU is a stepping stone program while NDSU and UM are not. NDSU and UM are also the 2 best FCS programs all time depending on what your metric is you could put either at one. MSU is not even close which makes sense why you are a stepping stone program.
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Well Bobby might not leave anymore, but that doesn't mean that UM isn't a stepping stone program. There isn't a single FCS program that isn't a stepping stone program. With some rare exceptions, especially if you're a 60+ year old retread, all of these coaches want to advance up the ladder. It's increased money, increased prestige, it's how you get the chance to coach at a premier program.

Fwiw, NDSU's last several coaches have all moved up the ladder. The only reason nobody at UM has is because Pflugrad got fired before he wouldn't been able to, and everybody else post Hauck 1.0 hasn't been good enough to move up. So it's not that UM isn't a stepping stone, it's just that your coaches haven't been all that great lately. And I don't think calling these programs a stepping stone is an insult, it's just the reality of being an FCS program. There aren't any better places to coach in the FCS, that's without a doubt, but it's still seen as the JV league nationally.
 
5280Griz said:
I would rather be a place for coaches to retire than leave especially in the new transfer portal era which most of NDSU’s churn was prior to and Bobby 1.0 was way prior to. Nowadays the best coaches and players leave with the coach going FBS. It can work to reload quickly because the FCS isn’t that good but it is also possible to take some steps back like Idaho did this season.
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I'd personally rather have people still trying to be climb the ladder and be great than have people who have settled in all cozy like. Staying in one place too long can lead to contentment, and that's not a great thing for a coach to have imo. Plus, older fellas just don't have the energy to recruit like the young ones, and you had better believe that matters.
 
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