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What's your realistic expectations Saturday?

bpcats said:
The Griz should roll in this one. The only unit that has been playing well for the Cats is their offensive line. The defensive line can't hold the line of scrimmage, the linebackers are being gap sound in their run lanes, the receivers can't get open etc. etc. The worst part is that I haven't seen any fight out of the team the couple of weeks.

The Griz have been giving it their all and it show on the field. It is going to be a blow out for the Griz.

bpcats, I agree with your comments but can't foresee a blow out. Despite how flat the bobcats have looked I just can't imagine they are not up for this one. They have to be rather twisted souls after hearing "Eat Sh*t Grizzlies, Go cats Go" every day for the past four years, from fans, strangers, school children, grandmothers, and possibly even clergy. At this point the players must even be mumbling it to themselves in their sleep.

In addition, when a loss means they're done for the year I'd expect you'll see all the "fight" they have left in them. In the end I do think the Grizzlies win. The Griz have been playing with heart and you can sense a building momentum as they move towards the playoffs. I'd like to think it will be easy but experience tells me this will be decided in the fourth quarter.
Go Griz! :ugeek:
 
argh! said:
johnson has been a ~50% passer in bsc play this year, and contrary to maroon-colored belief, most of the incompletions are due to inaccuracy, not dropped passes or throwaways.

as for my realistic expectations for saturday, i realistically expect to not be able to see the game, as it doesn't appear to be online, i don't have t.v., and i don't live somewhere with bars that show a lot of college football. i blame engstrom.

The first paragraph regarding the reason for the percentage in conference play is not accurate.
 
Buttegrizzle said:
The Griz win this one. One under appreciated player is Shaw. How many great Griz teams were hampered by a sub par punter? Shaw turns the field and we pickup 15-20 yards. Although out kick coverage has been a bit generous at times, those ultra high 45-50 yard punts have really helped get us out of jams this year. I give the Griz the edge in both defense and offense. The season stats don't mean as much to me as the past few games and clearly the Cat offense is stagnant while the Griz defense is improving.
I, for one, do not under-appreciate Stephen Shaw. All season long I have said that he is easily the most consistent player on the 2013 Griz team.
 
signedbewildered said:
"....about as far northeast as you can go in the u.s."

Guessing Estcourt Station Maine or Barrow Alaska. Not sure how that works, would more North make up for less East?
There's quite a bit of Alaska east of Barrow.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
argh! said:
CDAGRIZ said:
argh! said:
johnson has been a ~50% passer in bsc play this year, and contrary to maroon-colored belief, most of the incompletions are due to inaccuracy, not dropped passes or throwaways.

as for my realistic expectations for saturday, i realistically expect to not be able to see the game, as it doesn't appear to be online, i don't have t.v., and i don't live somewhere with bars that show a lot of college football. i blame engstrom.

Where do you live? Not specific address, just general area . . .

about as far northeast as you can go in the u.s.

Could you possibly find a bar or restaurant with the DTV sports package? The game should be on either Dish's or DTV's sports package (DTV has it on 687). Just a thought.

Try kgvo's web site for the radio feed. Spend Saturday with Mick and Gurns. It'll be fun.
 
'68griz said:
signedbewildered said:
"....about as far northeast as you can go in the u.s."

Guessing Estcourt Station Maine or Barrow Alaska. Not sure how that works, would more North make up for less East?
There's quite a bit of Alaska east of Barrow.

But is it East of Maine? This is what I am trying to calculate. What is the furthest "northeast" (lets say town) you can go in the US?
 
signedbewildered said:
'68griz said:
signedbewildered said:
"....about as far northeast as you can go in the u.s."

Guessing Estcourt Station Maine or Barrow Alaska. Not sure how that works, would more North make up for less East?
There's quite a bit of Alaska east of Barrow.

But is it East of Maine? This is what I am trying to calculate. What is the furthest "northeast" (lets say town) you can go in the US?

Isn't there a naval station way out in the Aleutions that might be so far west it's east? Meaning it's west of the 180th meridian, thus it's east.

The guy is mor likely to live in Maine though.
 
mcg said:
signedbewildered said:
'68griz said:
signedbewildered said:
"....about as far northeast as you can go in the u.s."

Guessing Estcourt Station Maine or Barrow Alaska. Not sure how that works, would more North make up for less East?
There's quite a bit of Alaska east of Barrow.

But is it East of Maine? This is what I am trying to calculate. What is the furthest "northeast" (lets say town) you can go in the US?

Isn't there a naval station way out in the Aleutions that might be so far west it's east? Meaning it's west of the 180th meridian, thus it's east.

The guy is mor likely to live in Maine though.
I think the "far east" is most likely in Maine.
 
'68griz said:
mcg said:
signedbewildered said:
'68griz said:
There's quite a bit of Alaska east of Barrow.

But is it East of Maine? This is what I am trying to calculate. What is the furthest "northeast" (lets say town) you can go in the US?

Isn't there a naval station way out in the Aleutions that might be so far west it's east? Meaning it's west of the 180th meridian, thus it's east.

The guy is mor likely to live in Maine though.
I think the "far east" is most likely in Maine.

Wherever it is, it must be beyond the reach of satellite television, but somehow within reach of the the Internet. A Palo Alto sub-basement?
 
Mot of you are unaware of my deep connections in the coaching world. After long conversations with Coach Ron Ash and former Griz DC Coach Brenske,, they both agree Griz 28 Cats 14....
 
It's hard not to feel optimistic about this game.

The Cats been on a clear downward trajectory since their game against UC-Davis. I feel like we've all seen this before. Sure, they're going to play harder than they have all season, but if they no longer trust in what they're doing, they're going to play tentative and get exploited by a Griz team that has been growing in confidence. I don't put too much into the blowout of Weber State, as some others have. They're harmless and everyone knew it going in, so the 300+ rushing yards are probably not indicative of how it will go on Saturday. If Trayvon Van is 90-100% this week, then that changes the whole dynamic, in which case I feel we can run on anyone in the conference.

We haven't beaten a good team this year, but at this point the Cats may not qualify as one. Ash has already been talking this week about how banged up they are, so he knows his team is up against it. On Saturday, as soon as things start not going their way, the mood in the stadium could turn sour as it did last week, as well as the last three Griz games in Bozeman. That's when players start to try making things happen that aren't there, which lead to costly missed assignments and turnovers. I think that since we still have a few deficiencies, it probably won't turn into a runaway as it was in recent meetings in Bozeman, but since the Griz have been clutch in close games, I expect us to win.

The Griz are 3-1 in one-possession games, including 2-0 in overtime, all since the middle of the season. We lost the one against the more talented team (EWU), and won against the less-talented ones, so it may not say much about how good our team is, except that we know we've been in the situation before and won't cave under pressure. The Cats are 1-2 in close games, with an expected loss to SMU (a game that they blew spectacularly), a 35-28 comeback win against a vastly inferior Northern Colorado team, and last week's botched comeback attempt against a team they should have handled at home.

I don't know or care what the score will be. I just think these signs all point to a Griz win.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Big G said:
Raider said:
Big G,

Nothing personal man. I only said drop the act, because I assumed you could not possibly be that naïve. Bad assumption on my part.

Bottom line, you can argue a few of these either way, but to say 8 out of 11 and 9 out of 11 is complete, moronic nonsense. Even the most irrational, shit talking cat fan would not agree with that.

Carry on.

Thanks, sorry for having my own opinion. If I can go back and amend part of what I posted. I was talking about current players for this weekends game. I excluded Van and Counts because they are injured. If this were straight up players at 100% then I would change my numbers but until then I will stick with what I said because I am not that fair off as it is.

You guys getting bent out of shape over this show what you know about football could almost fill a thimble.
In what few positions do you see the Griz having the edge? 8-)

Kistler, Henderson, Shaw, Bieneman and 2 of our LB's Tripp and Coyle.

Every other position is a push or the Cat players are just better than ours. Every player the Cats have in the secondary even their backups are better than any player we have. Cat DBs can tackle and are physical.

Wagenmann is no Daly, not even on a good day. Do you guys even read the stats? Daly has sick numbers like a video game.

Cat O-Line is just as good at every position, but Kistler
 
Big G said:
AZGrizFan said:
Big G said:
Raider said:
Big G,

Nothing personal man. I only said drop the act, because I assumed you could not possibly be that naïve. Bad assumption on my part.

Bottom line, you can argue a few of these either way, but to say 8 out of 11 and 9 out of 11 is complete, moronic nonsense. Even the most irrational, shit talking cat fan would not agree with that.

Carry on.

Thanks, sorry for having my own opinion. If I can go back and amend part of what I posted. I was talking about current players for this weekends game. I excluded Van and Counts because they are injured. If this were straight up players at 100% then I would change my numbers but until then I will stick with what I said because I am not that fair off as it is.

You guys getting bent out of shape over this show what you know about football could almost fill a thimble.
In what few positions do you see the Griz having the edge? 8-)

Kistler, Henderson, Shaw, Bieneman and 2 of our LB's Tripp and Coyle.

Every other position is a push or the Cat players are just better than ours. Every player the Cats have in the secondary even their backups are better than any player we have. Cat DBs can tackle and are physical.

Wagenmann is no Daly, not even on a good day. Do you guys even read the stats? Daly has sick numbers like a video game.

Cat O-Line is just as good at every position, but Kistler

At least, this post shows that you have no clue what you're talking about.

Daly does have terrific stats this year, but in the conference, Daly has 6 sacks to Wags' 5, and TFL's of 8.5 compared to Wags' 8.
 
I crown you president cherry picker. You are the only person in the universe that thinks Wags is better than Daly. Why did you pick the stats where Wags is closer to Daly and not show the whole stat line? Try to be more forthright from now on even when you are sucking up.
 
Big G said:
AZGrizFan said:
Big G said:
Raider said:
Big G,

Nothing personal man. I only said drop the act, because I assumed you could not possibly be that naïve. Bad assumption on my part.

Bottom line, you can argue a few of these either way, but to say 8 out of 11 and 9 out of 11 is complete, moronic nonsense. Even the most irrational, shit talking cat fan would not agree with that.

Carry on.

Thanks, sorry for having my own opinion. If I can go back and amend part of what I posted. I was talking about current players for this weekends game. I excluded Van and Counts because they are injured. If this were straight up players at 100% then I would change my numbers but until then I will stick with what I said because I am not that fair off as it is.

You guys getting bent out of shape over this show what you know about football could almost fill a thimble.
In what few positions do you see the Griz having the edge? 8-)

Kistler, Henderson, Shaw, Bieneman and 2 of our LB's Tripp and Coyle.

Every other position is a push or the Cat players are just better than ours. Every player the Cats have in the secondary even their backups are better than any player we have. Cat DBs can tackle and are physical.

Wagenmann is no Daly, not even on a good day. Do you guys even read the stats? Daly has sick numbers like a video game.

Cat O-Line is just as good at every position, but Kistler

You know, ONE guy having sick stats could be a function of a lack of ability of the guys around him as well. Remember when that UNI LB came to town a couple years ago, "video game" stats...touted as a Buchanan finalist....we abused him all day. If you watched ANY of the MSU/EWU or MSU/SUU games you know they, for the most part, have already checked out mentally.

Oh, and looking at the stats, Daly isn't THAT far ahead of Wagenmann. Now, would I like to have Daly on our team? Sure...but I can't name 3 other 'scats I'd take over our current starters. Funny how a defense that's so much better than ours couldn't even get the EWU punter on the field ONCE in 60 minutes of football. And funny how an offense that's so much better at at almost all the positions than ours couldn't muster 40 yards of offense through three quarters against Southern Utah.
 
Big G said:
I crown you president cherry picker. You are the only person in the universe that thinks Wags is better than Daly. Why did you pick the stats where Wags is closer to Daly and not show the whole stat line? Try to be more forthright from now on even when you are sucking up.

How about because his (Daly's) other games in which he built up stats are against the likes of Colorado Mesa, Monmouth, etc.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Big G said:
I crown you president cherry picker. You are the only person in the universe that thinks Wags is better than Daly. Why did you pick the stats where Wags is closer to Daly and not show the whole stat line? Try to be more forthright from now on even when you are sucking up.

How about because his (Daly's) other games in which he built up stats are against the likes of Colorado Mesa, Monmouth, etc.

Don't play that game pal, we played Oklahoma Panhandle St, North Dakota and Weber etc
 
Big G said:
AZGrizFan said:
Big G said:
I crown you president cherry picker. You are the only person in the universe that thinks Wags is better than Daly. Why did you pick the stats where Wags is closer to Daly and not show the whole stat line? Try to be more forthright from now on even when you are sucking up.

How about because his (Daly's) other games in which he built up stats are against the likes of Colorado Mesa, Monmouth, etc.

Don't play that game pal, we played Oklahoma Panhandle St, North Dakota and Weber etc

Exactly. Which is why PR compared only CONFERENCE stats. 8 of Daly's 19 TFL's came against Colorad Mesa & Monmouth. Wags hardly played against OPSU. Arguing with you is like taking candy from a baby.
 
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