here is Haslam's "view" on moving up.GRZFTBL said:We're moving up (within 5 years?). Look at the upgrades, albeit a bunch of private $$$. Softball, over the top (very nice, much needed) locker rooms, etc.
We will get a OC/DC from a decent FBS school to lead us to the next level.
Pease? Or?
http://latterdaysports.com/2010/02/kent-haslam/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;LatterDaySports: Are there any plans for Montana to move up a level?
Haslam: That’s a question that we get asked quite a bit and I’ll give you the honest answer. This is what I tell our boosters, supporters and our fans. What we really want to make sure we are able to do at the University of Montana is be in a position where we can make a decision that’s best for our future, as opposed to having a decision forced on us. All we can do is continue to build a financial support system that allows us to make a good decision so that if an opportunity presents itself someone’s not forcing you, or mandates from the NCAA, or changes in the classifications that are coming down the road here . . . you’re in a position to make a good decision. I don’t think it would be a reason for competitiveness, but it would be an opportunity to grow and to get better and be affiliated with like-universities. College athletics is really complex and you’ve got to be in the right conference and the conference has to make sense. So the honest answer is, we want to make sure that we are in a position to make a good decision.
An interactive college football fan map compiled by the New York Times using Facebook “likes” spoke volumes this week. The first was a reminder that the University of Montana remains in the NCAA Division I and its Football Championship Subdivision.
The other glaring reality taken from the graphic is that the Oregon Ducks have a reach that many professional football teams would envy. It extends from San Francisco north to the Columbia River and east into half of Montana.
Only the Texas Longhorns can claim a larger geography of fans, according to the Times’ graphic.
The map makes no mention of UM or Montana State University because it is reserved for teams in the Football Bowl Subdivision, such as the Washington Huskies, Arizona State Sun Devils and the Colorado Buffaloes.
In the Mountain West Conference – one that courted UM a few years back without success – teams like the Air Force Falcons, the New Mexico Lobos, UNLV Rebels and San Diego State Aztecs enjoy a noticeable presence.
The Boise State Broncos and Nevada Wolf Pack may claim the largest region of fans among teams in the Mountain West, leaving one to wonder what the graphic might look like if the Montana Grizzlies were to jump to the FBS and leave the FCS behind.
I’ve asked school officials about that possibility before, mostly in jest. The answers usually come with a grin and they're always non-revealing.
But one can’t ignore UM’s latest push to invest millions of dollars to upgrade its athletic facilities. And one has to wonder if these upgrades are part of a long-term plan to help boost recruitment and take the leap to the FBS, like Marshall University has done so successfully.
The Washington Foundation recently gifted UM around $7 million toward its planned $14 million Washington-Grizzly Champions Center. The center will connect to the football stadium and include new locker rooms and a weight room that other programs will envy.
If you haven’t been to campus recently, there’s also a gaping hole in front of the Adams Center. It didn’t get there by accident. It will soon house a new $2.5 million student-athlete academic center – another nod to school athletics.
Both projects will be paid for with private funding, as were the ribbon boards that now grace the interior of Washington-Grizzly Stadium. As for those boards, UM's Athletic Department believes they add to the fan experience, and I believe they’re right.
It’s that fan experience the school is keen on keeping. At least in Montana, it’s hard to compete with the Grizzlies in popularity, and there are few games that sport the atmosphere that’s displayed on Saturday afternoons in Missoula when the stadium is filled.
When this conversation comes up – and it often does – some have told me that UM’s fan base exists because the Grizzlies have had a winning football program for so many years. They also feel that fan base would be diminished if the Grizzlies began to lose, even to FBS teams.
I’m not so sure about that. I for one would rather watch the Grizzlies compete against the Wyoming Cowboys, the Hawaii Warriors and the Colorado State Rams than, say, the Northern Arizona Lumberjacks, the Southern Utah Thunderbirds or the Northern Colorado Bears.
Of course, there’s more at stake than a two-bit opinion like mine – more athletic scholarships and additional seating inside Washington-Grizzly Stadium among them. But even so, joining the Mountain West would only boost the school’s profile at a time when profiles count for so much, including student recruitment.
At any rate, it would be nice to see UM listed on a NY Times football fan-base graphic, not because the Grizzlies win, but because they were big enough to be considered among such athletic rankings.
yellowstone60 said:and maybe we wouldn't have to depend on ESPN 3 for away games :lol:
The MWC never courted UM, ever. The WAC, yes, the MWC, no.Grizbeer said:Since this is a move up thread I thought Martin Kidston's (UM beat writer for the Missoulian) take Sunday was interesting. I can't imagine Betsy Cohen or Gwen Florio ever advocating for a move up for the Griz:
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/martin-kidston-take-the-leap-to-mountain-west-conference/article_06986600-30e5-58bb-90ef-b21cd70c363a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
An interactive college football fan map compiled by the New York Times using Facebook “likes” spoke volumes this week. The first was a reminder that the University of Montana remains in the NCAA Division I and its Football Championship Subdivision.
The other glaring reality taken from the graphic is that the Oregon Ducks have a reach that many professional football teams would envy. It extends from San Francisco north to the Columbia River and east into half of Montana.
Only the Texas Longhorns can claim a larger geography of fans, according to the Times’ graphic.
The map makes no mention of UM or Montana State University because it is reserved for teams in the Football Bowl Subdivision, such as the Washington Huskies, Arizona State Sun Devils and the Colorado Buffaloes.
In the Mountain West Conference – one that courted UM a few years back without success – teams like the Air Force Falcons, the New Mexico Lobos, UNLV Rebels and San Diego State Aztecs enjoy a noticeable presence.
The Boise State Broncos and Nevada Wolf Pack may claim the largest region of fans among teams in the Mountain West, leaving one to wonder what the graphic might look like if the Montana Grizzlies were to jump to the FBS and leave the FCS behind.
I’ve asked school officials about that possibility before, mostly in jest. The answers usually come with a grin and they're always non-revealing.
But one can’t ignore UM’s latest push to invest millions of dollars to upgrade its athletic facilities. And one has to wonder if these upgrades are part of a long-term plan to help boost recruitment and take the leap to the FBS, like Marshall University has done so successfully.
The Washington Foundation recently gifted UM around $7 million toward its planned $14 million Washington-Grizzly Champions Center. The center will connect to the football stadium and include new locker rooms and a weight room that other programs will envy.
If you haven’t been to campus recently, there’s also a gaping hole in front of the Adams Center. It didn’t get there by accident. It will soon house a new $2.5 million student-athlete academic center – another nod to school athletics.
Both projects will be paid for with private funding, as were the ribbon boards that now grace the interior of Washington-Grizzly Stadium. As for those boards, UM's Athletic Department believes they add to the fan experience, and I believe they’re right.
It’s that fan experience the school is keen on keeping. At least in Montana, it’s hard to compete with the Grizzlies in popularity, and there are few games that sport the atmosphere that’s displayed on Saturday afternoons in Missoula when the stadium is filled.
When this conversation comes up – and it often does – some have told me that UM’s fan base exists because the Grizzlies have had a winning football program for so many years. They also feel that fan base would be diminished if the Grizzlies began to lose, even to FBS teams.
I’m not so sure about that. I for one would rather watch the Grizzlies compete against the Wyoming Cowboys, the Hawaii Warriors and the Colorado State Rams than, say, the Northern Arizona Lumberjacks, the Southern Utah Thunderbirds or the Northern Colorado Bears.
Of course, there’s more at stake than a two-bit opinion like mine – more athletic scholarships and additional seating inside Washington-Grizzly Stadium among them. But even so, joining the Mountain West would only boost the school’s profile at a time when profiles count for so much, including student recruitment.
At any rate, it would be nice to see UM listed on a NY Times football fan-base graphic, not because the Grizzlies win, but because they were big enough to be considered among such athletic rankings.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Close only counts in horseshoes.kemajic said:The MWC never courted UM, ever. The WAC, yes, the MWC, no.Grizbeer said:Since this is a move up thread I thought Martin Kidston's (UM beat writer for the Missoulian) take Sunday was interesting. I can't imagine Betsy Cohen or Gwen Florio ever advocating for a move up for the Griz:
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/martin-kidston-take-the-leap-to-mountain-west-conference/article_06986600-30e5-58bb-90ef-b21cd70c363a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
An interactive college football fan map compiled by the New York Times using Facebook “likes” spoke volumes this week. The first was a reminder that the University of Montana remains in the NCAA Division I and its Football Championship Subdivision.
The other glaring reality taken from the graphic is that the Oregon Ducks have a reach that many professional football teams would envy. It extends from San Francisco north to the Columbia River and east into half of Montana.
Only the Texas Longhorns can claim a larger geography of fans, according to the Times’ graphic.
The map makes no mention of UM or Montana State University because it is reserved for teams in the Football Bowl Subdivision, such as the Washington Huskies, Arizona State Sun Devils and the Colorado Buffaloes.
In the Mountain West Conference – one that courted UM a few years back without success – teams like the Air Force Falcons, the New Mexico Lobos, UNLV Rebels and San Diego State Aztecs enjoy a noticeable presence.
The Boise State Broncos and Nevada Wolf Pack may claim the largest region of fans among teams in the Mountain West, leaving one to wonder what the graphic might look like if the Montana Grizzlies were to jump to the FBS and leave the FCS behind.
I’ve asked school officials about that possibility before, mostly in jest. The answers usually come with a grin and they're always non-revealing.
But one can’t ignore UM’s latest push to invest millions of dollars to upgrade its athletic facilities. And one has to wonder if these upgrades are part of a long-term plan to help boost recruitment and take the leap to the FBS, like Marshall University has done so successfully.
The Washington Foundation recently gifted UM around $7 million toward its planned $14 million Washington-Grizzly Champions Center. The center will connect to the football stadium and include new locker rooms and a weight room that other programs will envy.
If you haven’t been to campus recently, there’s also a gaping hole in front of the Adams Center. It didn’t get there by accident. It will soon house a new $2.5 million student-athlete academic center – another nod to school athletics.
Both projects will be paid for with private funding, as were the ribbon boards that now grace the interior of Washington-Grizzly Stadium. As for those boards, UM's Athletic Department believes they add to the fan experience, and I believe they’re right.
It’s that fan experience the school is keen on keeping. At least in Montana, it’s hard to compete with the Grizzlies in popularity, and there are few games that sport the atmosphere that’s displayed on Saturday afternoons in Missoula when the stadium is filled.
When this conversation comes up – and it often does – some have told me that UM’s fan base exists because the Grizzlies have had a winning football program for so many years. They also feel that fan base would be diminished if the Grizzlies began to lose, even to FBS teams.
I’m not so sure about that. I for one would rather watch the Grizzlies compete against the Wyoming Cowboys, the Hawaii Warriors and the Colorado State Rams than, say, the Northern Arizona Lumberjacks, the Southern Utah Thunderbirds or the Northern Colorado Bears.
Of course, there’s more at stake than a two-bit opinion like mine – more athletic scholarships and additional seating inside Washington-Grizzly Stadium among them. But even so, joining the Mountain West would only boost the school’s profile at a time when profiles count for so much, including student recruitment.
At any rate, it would be nice to see UM listed on a NY Times football fan-base graphic, not because the Grizzlies win, but because they were big enough to be considered among such athletic rankings.
'68griz said:Yeah, I noticed that too. Close only counts in horseshoes.kemajic said:The MWC never courted UM, ever. The WAC, yes, the MWC, no.Grizbeer said:Since this is a move up thread I thought Martin Kidston's (UM beat writer for the Missoulian) take Sunday was interesting. I can't imagine Betsy Cohen or Gwen Florio ever advocating for a move up for the Griz:
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/martin-kidston-take-the-leap-to-mountain-west-conference/article_06986600-30e5-58bb-90ef-b21cd70c363a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
An interactive college football fan map compiled by the New York Times using Facebook “likes” spoke volumes this week. The first was a reminder that the University of Montana remains in the NCAA Division I and its Football Championship Subdivision.
The other glaring reality taken from the graphic is that the Oregon Ducks have a reach that many professional football teams would envy. It extends from San Francisco north to the Columbia River and east into half of Montana.
Only the Texas Longhorns can claim a larger geography of fans, according to the Times’ graphic.
The map makes no mention of UM or Montana State University because it is reserved for teams in the Football Bowl Subdivision, such as the Washington Huskies, Arizona State Sun Devils and the Colorado Buffaloes.
In the Mountain West Conference – one that courted UM a few years back without success – teams like the Air Force Falcons, the New Mexico Lobos, UNLV Rebels and San Diego State Aztecs enjoy a noticeable presence.
The Boise State Broncos and Nevada Wolf Pack may claim the largest region of fans among teams in the Mountain West, leaving one to wonder what the graphic might look like if the Montana Grizzlies were to jump to the FBS and leave the FCS behind.
I’ve asked school officials about that possibility before, mostly in jest. The answers usually come with a grin and they're always non-revealing.
But one can’t ignore UM’s latest push to invest millions of dollars to upgrade its athletic facilities. And one has to wonder if these upgrades are part of a long-term plan to help boost recruitment and take the leap to the FBS, like Marshall University has done so successfully.
The Washington Foundation recently gifted UM around $7 million toward its planned $14 million Washington-Grizzly Champions Center. The center will connect to the football stadium and include new locker rooms and a weight room that other programs will envy.
If you haven’t been to campus recently, there’s also a gaping hole in front of the Adams Center. It didn’t get there by accident. It will soon house a new $2.5 million student-athlete academic center – another nod to school athletics.
Both projects will be paid for with private funding, as were the ribbon boards that now grace the interior of Washington-Grizzly Stadium. As for those boards, UM's Athletic Department believes they add to the fan experience, and I believe they’re right.
It’s that fan experience the school is keen on keeping. At least in Montana, it’s hard to compete with the Grizzlies in popularity, and there are few games that sport the atmosphere that’s displayed on Saturday afternoons in Missoula when the stadium is filled.
When this conversation comes up – and it often does – some have told me that UM’s fan base exists because the Grizzlies have had a winning football program for so many years. They also feel that fan base would be diminished if the Grizzlies began to lose, even to FBS teams.
I’m not so sure about that. I for one would rather watch the Grizzlies compete against the Wyoming Cowboys, the Hawaii Warriors and the Colorado State Rams than, say, the Northern Arizona Lumberjacks, the Southern Utah Thunderbirds or the Northern Colorado Bears.
Of course, there’s more at stake than a two-bit opinion like mine – more athletic scholarships and additional seating inside Washington-Grizzly Stadium among them. But even so, joining the Mountain West would only boost the school’s profile at a time when profiles count for so much, including student recruitment.
At any rate, it would be nice to see UM listed on a NY Times football fan-base graphic, not because the Grizzlies win, but because they were big enough to be considered among such athletic rankings.
'68griz said:Yeah, I noticed that too. Close only counts in horseshoes.kemajic said:The MWC never courted UM, ever. The WAC, yes, the MWC, no.Grizbeer said:Since this is a move up thread I thought Martin Kidston's (UM beat writer for the Missoulian) take Sunday was interesting. I can't imagine Betsy Cohen or Gwen Florio ever advocating for a move up for the Griz:
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/martin-kidston-take-the-leap-to-mountain-west-conference/article_06986600-30e5-58bb-90ef-b21cd70c363a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
An interactive college football fan map compiled by the New York Times using Facebook “likes” spoke volumes this week. The first was a reminder that the University of Montana remains in the NCAA Division I and its Football Championship Subdivision.
The other glaring reality taken from the graphic is that the Oregon Ducks have a reach that many professional football teams would envy. It extends from San Francisco north to the Columbia River and east into half of Montana.
Only the Texas Longhorns can claim a larger geography of fans, according to the Times’ graphic.
The map makes no mention of UM or Montana State University because it is reserved for teams in the Football Bowl Subdivision, such as the Washington Huskies, Arizona State Sun Devils and the Colorado Buffaloes.
In the Mountain West Conference – one that courted UM a few years back without success – teams like the Air Force Falcons, the New Mexico Lobos, UNLV Rebels and San Diego State Aztecs enjoy a noticeable presence.
The Boise State Broncos and Nevada Wolf Pack may claim the largest region of fans among teams in the Mountain West, leaving one to wonder what the graphic might look like if the Montana Grizzlies were to jump to the FBS and leave the FCS behind.
I’ve asked school officials about that possibility before, mostly in jest. The answers usually come with a grin and they're always non-revealing.
But one can’t ignore UM’s latest push to invest millions of dollars to upgrade its athletic facilities. And one has to wonder if these upgrades are part of a long-term plan to help boost recruitment and take the leap to the FBS, like Marshall University has done so successfully.
The Washington Foundation recently gifted UM around $7 million toward its planned $14 million Washington-Grizzly Champions Center. The center will connect to the football stadium and include new locker rooms and a weight room that other programs will envy.
If you haven’t been to campus recently, there’s also a gaping hole in front of the Adams Center. It didn’t get there by accident. It will soon house a new $2.5 million student-athlete academic center – another nod to school athletics.
Both projects will be paid for with private funding, as were the ribbon boards that now grace the interior of Washington-Grizzly Stadium. As for those boards, UM's Athletic Department believes they add to the fan experience, and I believe they’re right.
It’s that fan experience the school is keen on keeping. At least in Montana, it’s hard to compete with the Grizzlies in popularity, and there are few games that sport the atmosphere that’s displayed on Saturday afternoons in Missoula when the stadium is filled.
When this conversation comes up – and it often does – some have told me that UM’s fan base exists because the Grizzlies have had a winning football program for so many years. They also feel that fan base would be diminished if the Grizzlies began to lose, even to FBS teams.
I’m not so sure about that. I for one would rather watch the Grizzlies compete against the Wyoming Cowboys, the Hawaii Warriors and the Colorado State Rams than, say, the Northern Arizona Lumberjacks, the Southern Utah Thunderbirds or the Northern Colorado Bears.
Of course, there’s more at stake than a two-bit opinion like mine – more athletic scholarships and additional seating inside Washington-Grizzly Stadium among them. But even so, joining the Mountain West would only boost the school’s profile at a time when profiles count for so much, including student recruitment.
At any rate, it would be nice to see UM listed on a NY Times football fan-base graphic, not because the Grizzlies win, but because they were big enough to be considered among such athletic rankings.
This is true. Even with the success of the Oregon Ducks, you can't see all of their games on TV either, at least not network. I have never tried to find them on ESPN3 so I don't know about that. Certainly the Beavers with the recent poor performance don't get on the big stage every week. You had better believe that many, if not most of the Griz games would not be televised.mtgriz said:yellowstone60 said:and maybe we wouldn't have to depend on ESPN 3 for away games :lol:
Actually this is something I'm quite nervous about. I don't think many lower level FBS teams get all their games televised because if the network contracting with the conference doesn't cover your game, no one does.
and shit fights. Shit splatters.BadlandsGrizFan said:'68griz said:Yeah, I noticed that too. Close only counts in horseshoes.kemajic said:The MWC never courted UM, ever. The WAC, yes, the MWC, no.Grizbeer said:Since this is a move up thread I thought Martin Kidston's (UM beat writer for the Missoulian) take Sunday was interesting. I can't imagine Betsy Cohen or Gwen Florio ever advocating for a move up for the Griz:
http://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/martin-kidston-take-the-leap-to-mountain-west-conference/article_06986600-30e5-58bb-90ef-b21cd70c363a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and hand grenades!