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What level is acceptable for Griz fans?

whitefishbear said:
Proud Griz Man said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
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I am a Count Chocula.

+1

At least we know which group you are in. :protesst:

Im more of a Fruit Brute after last weekend.

I went into the Weber game thinking..."This is finally it...the big game where Stitt is going to prove all of us that have backed him right....this is the game we're finally clicking..."

And than the game happened and it made me feel sick....and sad....and stupid....and taken advantage of.

Basically this program makes me feel like Jody Foster in the Accused.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
So as much as I hate the Tide and their fans, I'll argue Nick Saban is the greatest college coach of all time. It took him three years to bring Alabama to a national championship. I think it's fair to give Stitt four years to try.
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alabamagrizzly said:
So as much as I hate the Tide and their fans, I'll argue Nick Saban is the greatest college coach of all time. It took him three years to bring Alabama to a national championship. I think it's fair to give Stitt four years to try.


So, we can count on us winning a national championship next year with Stitt? :lol: :thumb:
 
One thing I have come accustom to since Stitt has been here is failure. No matter how much I want the Griz to win the big game against' winning teams in my heart, somehow the truth always takes over in my head bringing me back to reality. I used to get mad and upset when we lost these games, now I am just bewildered and I have accepted the fact it will not happen.

I wish NDSU would have blown us out of our house on that opening day, that way I wouldn't have got that false sense of security that we are now good again.

I don't know the answer to our griz football problems. Who should be the coach, are the players right, are all the coaches right, do we have the right AD? Too much to phantom thru my mind.

I can't believe there is one person on this forum who can make decisions or has the power to make all my issues better.

I will continue to enjoy Griz football the way I have for many years. I will always feel the griz will win every game. At the end of each game I will accept reality win or lose.

One day everything will all become right and we will be back on top again!
 
whitefishbear said:
While reading the many comments supporting Bob Stitt and the future of our program, it has become obvious that there are two camps in Griz Nation. One camp seems to be satisfied by taking baby steps toward being a national power once again, and always seems to find positive things from losses like the Weber game, even though the game was over at halftime, and we still lost by 14.
The second camp wants to see us go deep into the playoffs this season, and to return NOW to being a national power once again.

My question is..... which camp are you in? If you are in the first camp, are you willing to accept the fact that we are not, nor are unlikely to be, a national power in the near future? If expectations for the fan base becomes mollified, I assure you the program will seek that level and stay there.

Until we demand a better product on Saturdays, nothing will change. We enjoy way too many recruiting advances to be sitting as the #6 place team in the big sky, and unrated nationally. But if that is good enough for the masses, then that what we will continue to be.

While watching the Weber game, I could not help but notice the many empty seats in their glorified high school stadium, and the fact that they were able to recruit athletes to play in that stadium which were good enough to beat us by 14 points was very troubling to me. It is the same situation all over the Big Sky. Yet we continue to remain a middle-of-the-pack team. We are either being out-recruited for talent, or being severely out-coached (or both). Until Griz fans come to terms with these facts, nothing will change.

Yeah a Stadium that has a permanent Capacity of 17,500 and Standing Room only of over 20,000 is a High School Stadium :roll:

BTW, Washington Griz Stadium only holds a whopping 7,717 more fans than Stewart Stadium, and MSU's Bobcat Stadium holds a whopping 3,267 fans more than Stewart Stadium.

No we don't get the crowds but we also don't have the history the Montana's do, (or no FBS schools to compete with like the Montana's do). And yet with what "little" we have, it must be working since Weber to be 4-0 against both Montana juggernauts and their vaunted Stadiums since 2015.
 
whitefishbear said:
alabamagrizzly said:
So as much as I hate the Tide and their fans, I'll argue Nick Saban is the greatest college coach of all time. It took him three years to bring Alabama to a national championship. I think it's fair to give Stitt four years to try.


So, we can count on us winning a national championship next year with Stitt? :lol: :thumb:

At this point I'd almost enjoy the championship more for all the Stitt haters to eat their words then for Montana to return to dominance. I'll save that for the second one.
 
WILDCATFAN said:
whitefishbear said:
While reading the many comments supporting Bob Stitt and the future of our program, it has become obvious that there are two camps in Griz Nation. One camp seems to be satisfied by taking baby steps toward being a national power once again, and always seems to find positive things from losses like the Weber game, even though the game was over at halftime, and we still lost by 14.
The second camp wants to see us go deep into the playoffs this season, and to return NOW to being a national power once again.

My question is..... which camp are you in? If you are in the first camp, are you willing to accept the fact that we are not, nor are unlikely to be, a national power in the near future? If expectations for the fan base becomes mollified, I assure you the program will seek that level and stay there.

Until we demand a better product on Saturdays, nothing will change. We enjoy way too many recruiting advances to be sitting as the #6 place team in the big sky, and unrated nationally. But if that is good enough for the masses, then that what we will continue to be.

While watching the Weber game, I could not help but notice the many empty seats in their glorified high school stadium, and the fact that they were able to recruit athletes to play in that stadium which were good enough to beat us by 14 points was very troubling to me. It is the same situation all over the Big Sky. Yet we continue to remain a middle-of-the-pack team. We are either being out-recruited for talent, or being severely out-coached (or both). Until Griz fans come to terms with these facts, nothing will change.

Yeah a Stadium that has a permanent Capacity of 17,500 and Standing Room only of over 20,000 is a High School Stadium :roll:

BTW, Washington Griz Stadium only holds a whopping 7,717 more fans than Stewart Stadium, and MSU's Bobcat Stadium holds a whopping 3,267 fans more than Stewart Stadium.

No we don't get the crowds but we also don't have the history the Montana's do, (or no FBS schools to compete with like the Montana's do). And yet with what "little" we have, it must be working since Weber to be 4-0 against both Montana juggernauts and their vaunted Stadiums since 2015.

Which is exactly my point. Thanks for supporting it.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
whitefishbear said:
alabamagrizzly said:
So as much as I hate the Tide and their fans, I'll argue Nick Saban is the greatest college coach of all time. It took him three years to bring Alabama to a national championship. I think it's fair to give Stitt four years to try.


So, we can count on us winning a national championship next year with Stitt? :lol: :thumb:

At this point I'd almost enjoy the championship more for all the Stitt haters to eat their words then for Montana to return to dominance. I'll save that for the second one.

Don't hold your breath, or at least purchase your cemetery lot before you do.
 
...I got to be honest l never regain my confidence in Stitt after the Cat melt down..or NAU game last year
l never wanted to be a Stitt basher but lm not sure hes got it as a head coach..leadership is a funny thing..either you have it or you don't..we can get great recruits and have great facilities but it means nothing without leadership..leadership makes the hard decisions ...just don't see it!
 
Dillon said:
How long did it take Don Read?

1986 6-4
1987 6-5
1988 8-4
1989 11-3
1990 7-4
1991 7-4
1992 6-5
1993 10-2
1994 11-3
1995 13-2


Kind of sick do compare what coach Read had to overcome, to what coach Stitt inherited.

Just my opinion.
 
spsyk said:
Dillon said:
How long did it take Don Read?

1986 6-4
1987 6-5
1988 8-4
1989 11-3
1990 7-4
1991 7-4
1992 6-5
1993 10-2
1994 11-3
1995 13-2


Kind of sick do compare what coach Read had to overcome, to what coach Stitt inherited.

Just my opinion.

And you are correct
 
whitefishbear said:
WILDCATFAN said:
whitefishbear said:
While reading the many comments supporting Bob Stitt and the future of our program, it has become obvious that there are two camps in Griz Nation. One camp seems to be satisfied by taking baby steps toward being a national power once again, and always seems to find positive things from losses like the Weber game, even though the game was over at halftime, and we still lost by 14.
The second camp wants to see us go deep into the playoffs this season, and to return NOW to being a national power once again.

My question is..... which camp are you in? If you are in the first camp, are you willing to accept the fact that we are not, nor are unlikely to be, a national power in the near future? If expectations for the fan base becomes mollified, I assure you the program will seek that level and stay there.

Until we demand a better product on Saturdays, nothing will change. We enjoy way too many recruiting advances to be sitting as the #6 place team in the big sky, and unrated nationally. But if that is good enough for the masses, then that what we will continue to be.

While watching the Weber game, I could not help but notice the many empty seats in their glorified high school stadium, and the fact that they were able to recruit athletes to play in that stadium which were good enough to beat us by 14 points was very troubling to me. It is the same situation all over the Big Sky. Yet we continue to remain a middle-of-the-pack team. We are either being out-recruited for talent, or being severely out-coached (or both). Until Griz fans come to terms with these facts, nothing will change.

Yeah a Stadium that has a permanent Capacity of 17,500 and Standing Room only of over 20,000 is a High School Stadium :roll:

BTW, Washington Griz Stadium only holds a whopping 7,717 more fans than Stewart Stadium, and MSU's Bobcat Stadium holds a whopping 3,267 fans more than Stewart Stadium.

No we don't get the crowds but we also don't have the history the Montana's do, (or no FBS schools to compete with like the Montana's do). And yet with what "little" we have, it must be working since Weber to be 4-0 against both Montana juggernauts and their vaunted Stadiums since 2015.

Which is exactly my point. Thanks for supporting it.

If belittling others helps ease your pain of Montana's lack of success, then by all means carry on.
 
WILDCATFAN said:
whitefishbear said:
WILDCATFAN said:
whitefishbear said:
While reading the many comments supporting Bob Stitt and the future of our program, it has become obvious that there are two camps in Griz Nation. One camp seems to be satisfied by taking baby steps toward being a national power once again, and always seems to find positive things from losses like the Weber game, even though the game was over at halftime, and we still lost by 14.
The second camp wants to see us go deep into the playoffs this season, and to return NOW to being a national power once again.

My question is..... which camp are you in? If you are in the first camp, are you willing to accept the fact that we are not, nor are unlikely to be, a national power in the near future? If expectations for the fan base becomes mollified, I assure you the program will seek that level and stay there.

Until we demand a better product on Saturdays, nothing will change. We enjoy way too many recruiting advances to be sitting as the #6 place team in the big sky, and unrated nationally. But if that is good enough for the masses, then that what we will continue to be.

While watching the Weber game, I could not help but notice the many empty seats in their glorified high school stadium, and the fact that they were able to recruit athletes to play in that stadium which were good enough to beat us by 14 points was very troubling to me. It is the same situation all over the Big Sky. Yet we continue to remain a middle-of-the-pack team. We are either being out-recruited for talent, or being severely out-coached (or both). Until Griz fans come to terms with these facts, nothing will change.

Yeah a Stadium that has a permanent Capacity of 17,500 and Standing Room only of over 20,000 is a High School Stadium :roll:

BTW, Washington Griz Stadium only holds a whopping 7,717 more fans than Stewart Stadium, and MSU's Bobcat Stadium holds a whopping 3,267 fans more than Stewart Stadium.

No we don't get the crowds but we also don't have the history the Montana's do, (or no FBS schools to compete with like the Montana's do). And yet with what "little" we have, it must be working since Weber to be 4-0 against both Montana juggernauts and their vaunted Stadiums since 2015.

Which is exactly my point. Thanks for supporting it.

If belittling others helps ease your pain of Montana's lack of success, then by all means carry on.

Dude calm the fuck down....he said what you said.

He gave you a back handed compliment lol.
 
WILDCATFAN said:
whitefishbear said:
WILDCATFAN said:
whitefishbear said:
While reading the many comments supporting Bob Stitt and the future of our program, it has become obvious that there are two camps in Griz Nation. One camp seems to be satisfied by taking baby steps toward being a national power once again, and always seems to find positive things from losses like the Weber game, even though the game was over at halftime, and we still lost by 14.
The second camp wants to see us go deep into the playoffs this season, and to return NOW to being a national power once again.

My question is..... which camp are you in? If you are in the first camp, are you willing to accept the fact that we are not, nor are unlikely to be, a national power in the near future? If expectations for the fan base becomes mollified, I assure you the program will seek that level and stay there.

Until we demand a better product on Saturdays, nothing will change. We enjoy way too many recruiting advances to be sitting as the #6 place team in the big sky, and unrated nationally. But if that is good enough for the masses, then that what we will continue to be.

While watching the Weber game, I could not help but notice the many empty seats in their glorified high school stadium, and the fact that they were able to recruit athletes to play in that stadium which were good enough to beat us by 14 points was very troubling to me. It is the same situation all over the Big Sky. Yet we continue to remain a middle-of-the-pack team. We are either being out-recruited for talent, or being severely out-coached (or both). Until Griz fans come to terms with these facts, nothing will change.

Yeah a Stadium that has a permanent Capacity of 17,500 and Standing Room only of over 20,000 is a High School Stadium :roll:

BTW, Washington Griz Stadium only holds a whopping 7,717 more fans than Stewart Stadium, and MSU's Bobcat Stadium holds a whopping 3,267 fans more than Stewart Stadium.

No we don't get the crowds but we also don't have the history the Montana's do, (or no FBS schools to compete with like the Montana's do). And yet with what "little" we have, it must be working since Weber to be 4-0 against both Montana juggernauts and their vaunted Stadiums since 2015.

Which is exactly my point. Thanks for supporting it.

If belittling others helps ease your pain of Montana's lack of success, then by all means carry on.

Hey Moron-hes not belittling you, you idiot, hes praising you. hes saying you're able to do more with less.
 
hilinegrizfan said:
WILDCATFAN said:
whitefishbear said:
WILDCATFAN said:
Yeah a Stadium that has a permanent Capacity of 17,500 and Standing Room only of over 20,000 is a High School Stadium :roll:

BTW, Washington Griz Stadium only holds a whopping 7,717 more fans than Stewart Stadium, and MSU's Bobcat Stadium holds a whopping 3,267 fans more than Stewart Stadium.

No we don't get the crowds but we also don't have the history the Montana's do, (or no FBS schools to compete with like the Montana's do). And yet with what "little" we have, it must be working since Weber to be 4-0 against both Montana juggernauts and their vaunted Stadiums since 2015.

Which is exactly my point. Thanks for supporting it.

If belittling others helps ease your pain of Montana's lack of success, then by all means carry on.

Hey Moron-hes not belittling you, you idiot, hes praising you. hes saying you're able to do more with less.


Yeah...

While watching the Weber game, I could not help but notice the many empty seats in their glorified high school stadium, and the fact that they were able to recruit athletes to play in that stadium which were good enough to beat us by 14 points was very troubling to me


praising right... :?
 
WILDCATFAN said:
hilinegrizfan said:
WILDCATFAN said:
whitefishbear said:
Which is exactly my point. Thanks for supporting it.

If belittling others helps ease your pain of Montana's lack of success, then by all means carry on.

Hey Moron-hes not belittling you, you idiot, hes praising you. hes saying you're able to do more with less.


Yeah...

While watching the Weber game, I could not help but notice the many empty seats in their glorified high school stadium, and the fact that they were able to recruit athletes to play in that stadium which were good enough to beat us by 14 points was very troubling to me


praising right... :?

yes. if you can't see that the griz have nicer facilities and a much bigger fan base than you than maybe you should get mentally evaluated. despite all that, you have a better team and kicked our asses to an embarrassing degree. what about that is false? you guys do more with less. that's a compliment. idiot.
 
hilinegrizfan said:
WILDCATFAN said:
hilinegrizfan said:
WILDCATFAN said:
If belittling others helps ease your pain of Montana's lack of success, then by all means carry on.

Hey Moron-hes not belittling you, you idiot, hes praising you. hes saying you're able to do more with less.


Yeah...

While watching the Weber game, I could not help but notice the many empty seats in their glorified high school stadium, and the fact that they were able to recruit athletes to play in that stadium which were good enough to beat us by 14 points was very troubling to me


praising right... :?

yes. if you can't see that the griz have nicer facilities and a much bigger fan base than you than maybe you should get mentally evaluated. despite all that, you have a better team and kicked our asses to an embarrassing degree. what about that is false? you guys do more with less. that's a compliment. idiot.


When did I ever say Montana didn't have nicer facilities and better support :?:

Would you feel complimented if I came on here after a basketball game and said something like......"How Can Montana recruit good players to play in that half empty glorified high school gym?"

Tell me does that sound like a compliment to you?
 
whitefishbear said:
spsyk said:
Dillon said:
How long did it take Don Read?

1986 6-4
1987 6-5
1988 8-4
1989 11-3
1990 7-4
1991 7-4
1992 6-5
1993 10-2
1994 11-3
1995 13-2


Kind of sick do compare what coach Read had to overcome, to what coach Stitt inherited.

Just my opinion.

And you are correct

Bobby Hauck's record
2003 9-4
2004 12-3
2005 8-4
2006 12-2
2007 11-1
2008 14-2
2009 14-1

And 0 natty's. we ain't had a good enough coach (if natty's is the standard as whitefish suggested) since 2001.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
spsyk said:
to what coach Stitt inherited.

I think people over-estimate what Stitt inherited, but I also think people over-estimate what Stitt has added to the program.

So are you one of those guys that the glass is neither half full nor half empty? It's just half a glass.
 
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