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What is happening with the AD search?
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I can't claim it's "insider scoop" but I do know and have talked with a number of folks around the Griz Nation and I can tell you what I do know.
1) There has been an overwhelming level of support in letters and other message delivery directly to Engstrom endorsing Kent for the job. This includes a letter from the GSA President endorsed by all 12 or 13 Montana GSA chapter Presidents, numerous letters from business leaders here in Missoula and around the state as well as significant alumni outside Montana. Rumor (and it is ONLY word of mouth so take with a grain of salt) is that these communications outnumber those on behalf of all other finalists something like 8 or 9 to 1.
2) There is a strong fear that King is Engstrom's "plant" finalist among the four. I have heard this voiced from many around the community who understand where Engstrom really comes from (mindset, intitutional politics views, etc...) What makes this a) plausible and b) terrifying is that King is a DII AD at a school (Pan Am) with NO FOOTBALL Program and b) that he is a "compliance" guy who held that asst. AD positions at Bama and, ironiclly, Liberty who we see Saturday.
Weak people in positions of authority (for which R.E. is a poster child) tend to invariably do two key things:
A) Place Personal Power and goals ahead of the best interest of the Insitution or Organization which they have been elected, appointed or chosen to lead; and,
B) Purge support senior leadership staff of strong personalities and core competencies while replacing them with "yes men/women".
Ring any bells?
Now, why would a DII AD make the finalist list from a school with no football program for a school whose new (and completely unqualified - never ran a soda stand) president who hates athletics and football in particular? If you think that to be unfair I will simply say my momma always said "actions speak louder than words". Also - because Jim O'Day was so well known and so very universally well liked among the NCAA AD community, word was definitely on the street that this was a pooftie University President who was so self absorbed and so anti-athletics that the pool of truly qualified applicants was pretty scant due to lack of interest. That word on the street didn't come from O'Day it came from all the big boy ADs out there who knew it to be true. Take my word.....King would be a disaster.
Kent Haslam is the only choice that can possibly help Griz Nation heal and move forward.
#1 he is a man of great personal integrity
#2 his whole career has prepared him to be a DI AD
#3 he KNOWS Griz Nation and, importantly, our donor pool and our communiy
#4 he has spent 12 years deeply involved in the BSC and is currently (unlike Johnson) working in an ADept. within the conference
I could go on but there is no need.
What to do?
Call, email, fax every Regent, Montana State Legislator and Montana Business leader you know and urge them to flood Main Hall with FEDEXED or personally delivered letters, emails or faxes in support of Kent addressed directly to R.E.
If he continues down this ruinous path I can assure you there will be an active effort next year when we have the legislature back in Session to force the regents to buy out Engstrom's contract and excise this cancer from Griz Nation. BUT - let's do the positive thing and make it clear to him that another bureacratic patsy is not the right solution.
Because of where we are now, Kent Haslam is.
1) There has been an overwhelming level of support in letters and other message delivery directly to Engstrom endorsing Kent for the job. This includes a letter from the GSA President endorsed by all 12 or 13 Montana GSA chapter Presidents, numerous letters from business leaders here in Missoula and around the state as well as significant alumni outside Montana. Rumor (and it is ONLY word of mouth so take with a grain of salt) is that these communications outnumber those on behalf of all other finalists something like 8 or 9 to 1.
2) There is a strong fear that King is Engstrom's "plant" finalist among the four. I have heard this voiced from many around the community who understand where Engstrom really comes from (mindset, intitutional politics views, etc...) What makes this a) plausible and b) terrifying is that King is a DII AD at a school (Pan Am) with NO FOOTBALL Program and b) that he is a "compliance" guy who held that asst. AD positions at Bama and, ironiclly, Liberty who we see Saturday.
Weak people in positions of authority (for which R.E. is a poster child) tend to invariably do two key things:
A) Place Personal Power and goals ahead of the best interest of the Insitution or Organization which they have been elected, appointed or chosen to lead; and,
B) Purge support senior leadership staff of strong personalities and core competencies while replacing them with "yes men/women".
Ring any bells?
Now, why would a DII AD make the finalist list from a school with no football program for a school whose new (and completely unqualified - never ran a soda stand) president who hates athletics and football in particular? If you think that to be unfair I will simply say my momma always said "actions speak louder than words". Also - because Jim O'Day was so well known and so very universally well liked among the NCAA AD community, word was definitely on the street that this was a pooftie University President who was so self absorbed and so anti-athletics that the pool of truly qualified applicants was pretty scant due to lack of interest. That word on the street didn't come from O'Day it came from all the big boy ADs out there who knew it to be true. Take my word.....King would be a disaster.
Kent Haslam is the only choice that can possibly help Griz Nation heal and move forward.
#1 he is a man of great personal integrity
#2 his whole career has prepared him to be a DI AD
#3 he KNOWS Griz Nation and, importantly, our donor pool and our communiy
#4 he has spent 12 years deeply involved in the BSC and is currently (unlike Johnson) working in an ADept. within the conference
I could go on but there is no need.
What to do?
Call, email, fax every Regent, Montana State Legislator and Montana Business leader you know and urge them to flood Main Hall with FEDEXED or personally delivered letters, emails or faxes in support of Kent addressed directly to R.E.
If he continues down this ruinous path I can assure you there will be an active effort next year when we have the legislature back in Session to force the regents to buy out Engstrom's contract and excise this cancer from Griz Nation. BUT - let's do the positive thing and make it clear to him that another bureacratic patsy is not the right solution.
Because of where we are now, Kent Haslam is.
granitegriz
Well-known member
Good points and analysis strikeangel. Seems obvious RE will name his own stooge or puppet. It is also obvious who needs to be "let go" without any reasons.
FWIW, UTPA is a DI program, and while they don't offer football, they offer more sports than Montana does. Of course, Kimg also spent a number of years at Alabama. As I recall, they play a little football there....
I'll leave the conspiracy theories to others, but can say with certainty that there should be an announcement very soon.
I'll leave the conspiracy theories to others, but can say with certainty that there should be an announcement very soon.
I was told by the secret society that an AD would be announced WED of THUR. Nothing official. It was mentioned that Haslam was very high on the committee's list. King was also very high. One man I do not want is Johnson as he would damage the status we have. Bad and full of himself.
I have to wait until Engstrom makes the selection. That will tell me how his weak supervising mind is working. He wilted under the threat of Carol and Pat Williams. At this point our president has shown zero leadership skills. He lives in a "make believe" world. Asked the previous staff to demand all athletes not drink any alcohol, among other silly suggestions. BYU is a prime example that does not work.
Our football program is good and has been. Engstrom has admitted to the NCAA "our football program is foul and running roughshod over local women".....Yes Admitted. How can the poor soul admit to wrong doing without any real proof. He an Gwen drink from the same glass. Now we have the NCAA snooping around for the fourth time. Guess what? They have not found squat! They won't. Sure some small crap but nothing big! Take this to the bank.
NCAA asking questions of kids getting a DUI 5 years ago, how they paid for an attorney. Did the U pay for the attorney? The type of questions an 8th grader expects. Nothing has or will come of it. ZERO......OOPS, I am ranting. Perhaps it is because of this damn smoke I am sucking in.
I have to wait until Engstrom makes the selection. That will tell me how his weak supervising mind is working. He wilted under the threat of Carol and Pat Williams. At this point our president has shown zero leadership skills. He lives in a "make believe" world. Asked the previous staff to demand all athletes not drink any alcohol, among other silly suggestions. BYU is a prime example that does not work.
Our football program is good and has been. Engstrom has admitted to the NCAA "our football program is foul and running roughshod over local women".....Yes Admitted. How can the poor soul admit to wrong doing without any real proof. He an Gwen drink from the same glass. Now we have the NCAA snooping around for the fourth time. Guess what? They have not found squat! They won't. Sure some small crap but nothing big! Take this to the bank.
NCAA asking questions of kids getting a DUI 5 years ago, how they paid for an attorney. Did the U pay for the attorney? The type of questions an 8th grader expects. Nothing has or will come of it. ZERO......OOPS, I am ranting. Perhaps it is because of this damn smoke I am sucking in.
EverettGriz said:
Yes Everett you are techically correct - Pan Am is technically DI - but AAA that microcosm of non-football schools that are basically DII and look at that conference? hello? No hate there but you can't avoid facts.
As for conspiracies.......none offered - I am referring to agendas not conspiracies
As for Bama - hey I am a fan - I was referring to the bureaucratic position King held there as well as at other institutions Asst. AD for COMPLIANCE - read bureaucratic ass kisser job that never has the home institution's best interest at heart - look around NCAA resume's and see where those peeps go - just sayin'
StrikeAngel....Considering the recent events and investigations, my view is the hiring of the AD should be delayed until the investigations are concluded. At that time, UM should re-open the national search which, hopefully, will attract additional qualified candidates. At this time, I am of the opinion that it will be regarded as business as usual at UM if Engstrom hires anyone currently employed within the athletic department. Otherwise, I agree with the general thrust of the comments in your post.
Spanky said:
The problem with this is the assumption that the investigations will be over sometime in the foreseeable future. They won't be. As I stated before, if you don't know what your are looking for, and really don't know where to look, you end up looking for a REALLY long time, unless you admit that you were wrong in the first place. The NCAA isn't known for admitting that they were wrong, and there isn't anything there.
I expect them to be here for a while.
StrikeAngel said:
Strike Angel says"
1) There has been an overwhelming level of support in letters and other message delivery directly to Engstrom endorsing Kent for the job. This includes a letter from the GSA President endorsed by all 12 or 13 Montana GSA chapter Presidents, numerous letters from business leaders here in Missoula and around the state as well as significant alumni outside Montana. Rumor (and it is ONLY word of mouth so take with a grain of salt) is that these communications outnumber those on behalf of all other finalists something like 8 or 9 to 1.
Yeah, and we remember the fan support for hiring Don Holst too......all of the white cards held up during games saying "Hire Don". That one worked out real well for us, huh? If you allow the uniformed fan base to dictate who you hire, you have pissed your program away. Just look at 90% of the posters on egriz.....that should tell you all you need to know about their prowess in determining program direction!
yellowstone60
Well-known member
congrats to Kent.
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