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Weekly Position Discussion: Week 6, Linebackers

MrTitleist said:
grizbrokebacker1 said:
Thurman Murman said:
CatFan22 said:
From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Since you brought it up and put the information on a public forum presumably without the consent of Na'a, it's also a violation of HIPAA so I'm sure the feds would like to know.

I'm not so sure you understand what a HIPAA violation is..

Then I'm not so sure you know what I do for a living. :coffee:
 
grizbrokebacker1 said:
MrTitleist said:
grizbrokebacker1 said:
Thurman Murman said:
Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Since you brought it up and put the information on a public forum presumably without the consent of Na'a, it's also a violation of HIPAA so I'm sure the feds would like to know.

I'm not so sure you understand what a HIPAA violation is..

Then I'm not so sure you know what I do for a living. :coffee:

Likewise.
 
grizbrokebacker1 said:
Thurman Murman said:
CatFan22 said:
Thurman Murman said:
Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Since you brought it up and put the information on a public forum presumably without the consent of Na'a, it's also a violation of HIPAA so I'm sure the feds would like to know.


Oh my God.

An absolute new low for cat stupidity. And the bar was already 14,157 miles under the earth with 25.06's earlier post.

But this one? This one sets all KINDS of records.


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grizbrokebacker1 said:
MrTitleist said:
grizbrokebacker1 said:
Thurman Murman said:
Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Since you brought it up and put the information on a public forum presumably without the consent of Na'a, it's also a violation of HIPAA so I'm sure the feds would like to know.

I'm not so sure you understand what a HIPAA violation is..

Then I'm not so sure you know what I do for a living. :coffee:
Here is a list of entities covered by HIPAA:
Covered healthcare providers (hospitals, clinics, regional health services, individual medical practitioners) that carry out transactions in electronic form
Healthcare clearinghouses
Health plans (including insurers, HMOs, Medicaid, Medicare prescription drug card sponsors, flexible spending accounts, public health authority, in addition to employers, schools or universities that collect, store or transmit EPHI, or electronic protected health information, to enroll employees or students in health plans)
Their business associates (including private sector vendors and third-party administrators)

So GBB1 you must know more about Titleist's area of employment than even you do about your own. How come we are blessed with so many Bobcat geniuses on this forum?
 
brian s said:
You have been reading too many draftnic postings. You can direct all of your comments to the Griz posters who know that Coyle is the best LB on the team, and there are quite a few of us. Funny how Coyle had way more tackles than Tripp last season, even though he missed much of the first two games. The spread will be even greater this season. Coyle is going have a senior season much like McSurdy's, if he can stay healthy. Your opinion has been duly noted, but that is all it is, your opinion, nothing more. By the way, I do not think Tripp gets drafted. Free agent. If he does, it will be in the 7th round. And don't count out Coyle getting making it in the NFL either.

The Mike linebacker should have more tackles in a 4/3 defense than the Will linebacker. Comparing who has the most tackles between the two as who is better doesn't work. Tripp's position requires more coverage responsibilities (especially in the way our coaches utilized Tripp last year). Coyle's responsibilities were much more limited and focused with more opportunities to be involved in tackles. Tripp is clearly the most talented LB and the best nfl prospect we have. I like Coyle a lot too and think he has pro potential, but Tripp is at a different level talent wise. If you ask Coyle or any player or coach on the team, they will tell you the same. Hopefully, the coaches won't put as much on him this year and allow him to do his job instead of trying to help compensate for deficiencies in pass coverage from other positions.
 
CatFan22 said:
Thurman Murman said:
Cats2506 said:
Thurman Murman said:
Also 2506, for a cat fan who claims to be in the know and thinks they are always correct, you might want to do some research before you talk about how good Na'a will be next season. I have a feeling he won't even be in the running since he won't be playing this coming season.
Do tell, is this news or just more fizz hopes and dreams

Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

cat fans using eGriz for information since 1997!!
 
EverettGriz said:
CatFan22 said:
Thurman Murman said:
Cats2506 said:
Do tell, is this news or just more fizz hopes and dreams

Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

cat fans using eGriz for information since 1997!!

Griz fans picking and choosing the smallest sample sizes to prove their points since...forever? :thumb:

;)
 
HighLineGRIZ said:
brian s said:
You have been reading too many draftnic postings. You can direct all of your comments to the Griz posters who know that Coyle is the best LB on the team, and there are quite a few of us. Funny how Coyle had way more tackles than Tripp last season, even though he missed much of the first two games. The spread will be even greater this season. Coyle is going have a senior season much like McSurdy's, if he can stay healthy. Your opinion has been duly noted, but that is all it is, your opinion, nothing more. By the way, I do not think Tripp gets drafted. Free agent. If he does, it will be in the 7th round. And don't count out Coyle getting making it in the NFL either.

The Mike linebacker should have more tackles in a 4/3 defense than the Will linebacker. Comparing who has the most tackles between the two as who is better doesn't work. Tripp's position requires more coverage responsibilities (especially in the way our coaches utilized Tripp last year). Coyle's responsibilities were much more limited and focused with more opportunities to be involved in tackles. Tripp is clearly the most talented LB and the best nfl prospect we have. I like Coyle a lot too and think he has pro potential, but Tripp is at a different level talent wise. If you ask Coyle or any player or coach on the team, they will tell you the same. Hopefully, the coaches won't put as much on him this year and allow him to do his job instead of trying to help compensate for deficiencies in pass coverage from other positions.


That is your opinion, and is not based upon fact. I don't agree with it, and neither does Coyle. Stop trying to speak for him.
 
CatFan22 said:
EverettGriz said:
CatFan22 said:
Thurman Murman said:
Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

cat fans using eGriz for information since 1997!!

Griz fans picking and choosing the smallest sample sizes to prove their points since...forever? :thumb:

;)[/quote

For instance the win loss record of Griz - Cat/Brawl of TW?
 
brian s said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
brian s said:
You have been reading too many draftnic postings. You can direct all of your comments to the Griz posters who know that Coyle is the best LB on the team, and there are quite a few of us. Funny how Coyle had way more tackles than Tripp last season, even though he missed much of the first two games. The spread will be even greater this season. Coyle is going have a senior season much like McSurdy's, if he can stay healthy. Your opinion has been duly noted, but that is all it is, your opinion, nothing more. By the way, I do not think Tripp gets drafted. Free agent. If he does, it will be in the 7th round. And don't count out Coyle getting making it in the NFL either.

The Mike linebacker should have more tackles in a 4/3 defense than the Will linebacker. Comparing who has the most tackles between the two as who is better doesn't work. Tripp's position requires more coverage responsibilities (especially in the way our coaches utilized Tripp last year). Coyle's responsibilities were much more limited and focused with more opportunities to be involved in tackles. Tripp is clearly the most talented LB and the best nfl prospect we have. I like Coyle a lot too and think he has pro potential, but Tripp is at a different level talent wise. If you ask Coyle or any player or coach on the team, they will tell you the same. Hopefully, the coaches won't put as much on him this year and allow him to do his job instead of trying to help compensate for deficiencies in pass coverage from other positions.


That is your opinion, and is not based upon fact. I don't agree with it, and neither does Coyle. Stop trying to speak for him.
actually, its very accurate. Depending on the offense they are defending, the Mike will usually have more tackle opportunities that the will or sam, especially the way the Griz use Tripp much like KC used Derrick Thomas back in the day, more of a pass rusher than run defender. You don't have to be a dick about it it's just a discussion.
 
FYI

Greg Rachac
‏@CatGrizInsider
Also, I asked Ash about potential injury to LB Moeakiola. Said they'll announce something soon, and that "something is definitely going on"

https://twitter.com/CatGrizInsider/status/355403666922020867" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Hammer said:
brian s said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
brian s said:
You have been reading too many draftnic postings. You can direct all of your comments to the Griz posters who know that Coyle is the best LB on the team, and there are quite a few of us. Funny how Coyle had way more tackles than Tripp last season, even though he missed much of the first two games. The spread will be even greater this season. Coyle is going have a senior season much like McSurdy's, if he can stay healthy. Your opinion has been duly noted, but that is all it is, your opinion, nothing more. By the way, I do not think Tripp gets drafted. Free agent. If he does, it will be in the 7th round. And don't count out Coyle getting making it in the NFL either.

The Mike linebacker should have more tackles in a 4/3 defense than the Will linebacker. Comparing who has the most tackles between the two as who is better doesn't work. Tripp's position requires more coverage responsibilities (especially in the way our coaches utilized Tripp last year). Coyle's responsibilities were much more limited and focused with more opportunities to be involved in tackles. Tripp is clearly the most talented LB and the best nfl prospect we have. I like Coyle a lot too and think he has pro potential, but Tripp is at a different level talent wise. If you ask Coyle or any player or coach on the team, they will tell you the same. Hopefully, the coaches won't put as much on him this year and allow him to do his job instead of trying to help compensate for deficiencies in pass coverage from other positions.


That is your opinion, and is not based upon fact. I don't agree with it, and neither does Coyle. Stop trying to speak for him.
actually, its very accurate. Depending on the offense they are defending, the Mike will usually have more tackle opportunities that the will or sam, especially the way the Griz use Tripp much like KC used Derrick Thomas back in the day, more of a pass rusher than run defender. You don't have to be a dick about it it's just a discussion.

Not being a dick, dick. Just have a problem with people trying to speak for players. If the guy wants to ask Coyle his opinion, or tell him in person that he is not in the same league as our Adonis LB, then I could arrange for him to do so.
 
GrizBoard said:
I'm sure you're all shocked to know that brian s is none other than Mr Growler1. Say buh-bye Growler.

I guess I'm not surprised that Growler can't remember to log into egriz from a different computer when he's posing as "Brian S". A few of our egriz "insiders" know how it's done...mursa uajor for example. Now that guy's funny! ;)

YITB
 
GrizBoard said:
I'm sure you're all shocked to know that brian s is none other than Mr Growler1. Say buh-bye Growler.


Yes. Shocked....


The dude keeps getting himself into these pickles, doesn't he?....
 
Bjorn Bjornstein said:
GrizBoard said:
I'm sure you're all shocked to know that brian s is none other than Mr Growler1. Say buh-bye Growler.

I guess I'm not surprised that Growler can't remember to log into egriz from a different computer when he's posing as "Brian S". A few of our egriz "insiders" know how it's done...mursa uajor for example. Now that guy's funny! ;)

YITB

I guess my question is why does Growler have to come on to E-Griz under an alternative screen name? As a "free speech" advocate, I don't hear Growler/Brian S. yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater. I know his "Issues" are legendary but aren't we all a little " beyond the pale" as E-Griz posters? Remember, E-Griz is a "fan" site. From my vantage point, banning and censoring Growler is kinda' Un-American, don't ya think? I think E-Griz is a pretty big "tent" with many varying opinions. Growler should be allowed to voice his opinions like any other poster.
 
Hammer said:
brian s said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
brian s said:
You have been reading too many draftnic postings. You can direct all of your comments to the Griz posters who know that Coyle is the best LB on the team, and there are quite a few of us. Funny how Coyle had way more tackles than Tripp last season, even though he missed much of the first two games. The spread will be even greater this season. Coyle is going have a senior season much like McSurdy's, if he can stay healthy. Your opinion has been duly noted, but that is all it is, your opinion, nothing more. By the way, I do not think Tripp gets drafted. Free agent. If he does, it will be in the 7th round. And don't count out Coyle getting making it in the NFL either.

The Mike linebacker should have more tackles in a 4/3 defense than the Will linebacker. Comparing who has the most tackles between the two as who is better doesn't work. Tripp's position requires more coverage responsibilities (especially in the way our coaches utilized Tripp last year). Coyle's responsibilities were much more limited and focused with more opportunities to be involved in tackles. Tripp is clearly the most talented LB and the best nfl prospect we have. I like Coyle a lot too and think he has pro potential, but Tripp is at a different level talent wise. If you ask Coyle or any player or coach on the team, they will tell you the same. Hopefully, the coaches won't put as much on him this year and allow him to do his job instead of trying to help compensate for deficiencies in pass coverage from other positions.


That is your opinion, and is not based upon fact. I don't agree with it, and neither does Coyle. Stop trying to speak for him.
actually, its very accurate. Depending on the offense they are defending, the Mike will usually have more tackle opportunities that the will or sam, especially the way the Griz use Tripp much like KC used Derrick Thomas back in the day, more of a pass rusher than run defender. You don't have to be a dick about it it's just a discussion.

Yep. I don't expect Growler to understand the difference in football positions on the field, since he's never played the game and clearly doesn't understand the simple basics of a 4-3 defense. Kind of like arguing a DE is better that a DT because they have more sacks... People who have been critical on Tripp don't understand the enormous responsibilities put on him last year. I played Will in college and I can tell you that Tripp's responsibilities were more than any player I've observed at that position at the college level. Making the transition from Sam to Will isn't easy and as Griz4life pointed out some of the mistakes some fans point out on Tripp weren't completely on him.

I might have misspoke by assuming Coyle would agree that Tripp is the most talented backer on the team. I don't know Coyle nor ever talked to him so who knows... He probably said "hi" to Growler, so he thinks they are best friends now... Anyways, he'll leave as one of the best MLB to ever suit up here with a strong year next year and will have opportunities in NFL camps next year. I just think Tripp is at a higher level in terms of raw talent and pro potential. Not a knock on Coyle at all, just common sense observation.
 
CV Griz Fan said:
I guess my question is why does Growler have to come on to E-Griz under an alternative screen name? As a "free speech" advocate, I don't hear Growler/Brian S. yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater. I know his "Issues" are legendary but aren't we all a little " beyond the pale" as E-Griz posters? Remember, E-Griz is a "fan" site. From my vantage point, banning and censoring Growler is kinda' Un-American, don't ya think? I think E-Griz is a pretty big "tent" with many varying opinions. Growler should be allowed to voice his opinions like any other poster.

Sounds like you're bucking to be the defense lawyer for Tamerlan (Dzhokhar) Tsarnaev.
 
WyomingGrizFan said:
CV Griz Fan said:
I guess my question is why does Growler have to come on to E-Griz under an alternative screen name? As a "free speech" advocate, I don't hear Growler/Brian S. yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater. I know his "Issues" are legendary but aren't we all a little " beyond the pale" as E-Griz posters? Remember, E-Griz is a "fan" site. From my vantage point, banning and censoring Growler is kinda' Un-American, don't ya think? I think E-Griz is a pretty big "tent" with many varying opinions. Growler should be allowed to voice his opinions like any other poster.

Sounds like you're bucking to be the defense lawyer for Tamerlan (Dzhokhar) Tsarnaev.

It is very American. Fanplay is a private company. It has the right to refuse service to anybody and censor any conduct it wants. The space provided on this site is not owned by us, it is owned by Fanplay and they have the right to determine what content is posted on the site and who is allowed to post it. The site has a clearly posted code of conduct. They don't need to but they have it and seems like they try to enforce that code fairly.
 
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