Weekly Position Discussion: Week 6, Linebackers

[uofmman1122]

I laugh at us arguing who is the best of our Linebackers, when any coach in the BSC would gladly take our 3rd best LB and would instantly start over any of his LB's. It's a good problem to have. Life is good and the Griz will have an amazing year in 2013.

You obviously don't know much about some of the other LB's out there in the BSC, IMO Coyle is the only one that would have a shot at starting for the Cats and even then I would take Na'a over him anyway.
UNC is pretty stacked at LB this year, not sure any of your guys would make starters there, EWU and SAC both have solid groups that your guys may not make the cut either.

So says the pathetic cat fan who only has 1 player in the NFL over the past 6 years. The Griz have 7 on active roster from last year alone and it would have been 8 but Shann got hurt early. Out of those players most are Montana boys! The whole time you moron cat fans tried to argue that you were winning the Montana recruiting and years later we proved we were winning it by putting our players in the NFL and 3 of them even played in the Pro Bowl. Idiots!!!!

Damn 8 in the NFL eh? Where are those NCAA championship rings? Griz ==> Buffalo Bills of the NFL.

Aren't the Bills the Bills of the NFL? :lol: :lol:

 

[CatFan22]

Do tell, is this news or just more fizz hopes and dreams

Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Mm. Thanks.

 

[Thurman Murman]

Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Mm. Thanks.

Well I didn't find out much new. Just that he has to redshirt this season and it sounded like it was probably labrum but not 100% sure, it could be a different shoulder injury. Doesn't seem that he has had the surgery yet but I think plans to soon.

 

[Raider]

I find it odd that some of you cat fans constantly lurk around e-griz and yet you don’t have any decent information on your own program. This issue with Na’a isn’t some top secret ordeal. I knew about it two weeks ago, after being in Bozo for one day for work.

 

[zengriz]

...tripp haz all the toolz...
...the only concern with him...
...hiz tendency to over play/react...

... ...

 

[Grisly Fan]

I find it odd that some of you cat fans constantly lurk around e-griz and yet you don’t have any decent information on your own program. This issue with Na’a isn’t some top secret ordeal. I knew about it two weeks ago, after being in Bozo for one day for work.

I think the fact that they spend so much time lurking on eGriz tells you all you need to know about them as "Cat fans".

 

[CatFan22]

I find it odd that some of you cat fans constantly lurk around e-griz and yet you don’t have any decent information on your own program. This issue with Na’a isn’t some top secret ordeal. I knew about it two weeks ago, after being in Bozo for one day for work.

I think the fact that they spend so much time lurking on eGriz tells you all you need to know about them as "Cat fans".

Oh god, get over yourself.

 

[argh!]

nau ran straight at tripp during their comeback that turned into a rout. getgrizzy has a point.

 

[AZGrizFan]

nau ran straight at tripp during their comeback that turned into a rout. getgrizzy has a point.

Good thing nobody else missed a tackle in that game...we can blame the entire thing on Tripp. :roll:

 

[George Ferguson]

WELL-put AZ. In fact, I heard after that game, the entire team snuck into Tripp's bedroom with pillow cases full of bars of soap and performed a code red on him in hopes he would never miss a tackle again. Ray Lewis, and every other linebacker in the entire football world is allowed to miss tackles and over persue, but when Jordy does it, he's overrated and sucks.

 

[BDizzle]

Our worst defensive game against the run was vs the best rushing team we faced. Bauman is a stud. And we have talked about this many times but if you take away 2-3 long runs our defense did ok. He piled up some yards in the 4th quarter when our defense was gased because our offense couldn't stay on the field. So our whole defense had a less than stellar game vs NAU but there were a few "excuses" as to why.

 

[Raider]

argh, that was fucking stupid, even by your standards.

 

[griz4life]

nau ran straight at tripp during their comeback that turned into a rout. getgrizzy has a point.

The beat down in that game started when NAU put two tight ends off the right tackle. UM did nothing to adjust and its linebackers were simply out manned.
It's not the best example, but if you pause the video below at 10 seconds you can see the setup and a little bit of Montana's--uh--response. Look at where the linebackers are relative to NAU's overloaded right side before the snap. You can't play an overloaded side like that with everyone inside the tight ends. That's not the linebacker's fault. That's a coach not making good adjustments.
The problem is, if you bring Tripp out to the edge, basically shifting all your linebackers toward NAU's right, you have to have a safety capable of picking up the other side----a 46 Defense. You can't see it in this video, but NAU had one receiver way out on the left hash.
Once NAU figured out how UM was going to react, the Lumberjacks just kept shoving that same play down Montana's throats, same side every time. It really isn't fair to blame Jordan Tripp.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtnXRkqAgLs[/youtube]

 

[CV Griz Fan]

nau ran straight at tripp during their comeback that turned into a rout. getgrizzy has a point.

The beat down in that game started when NAU put two tight ends off the right tackle. UM did nothing to adjust and its linebackers were simply out manned.
It's not the best example, but if you pause the video below at 10 seconds you can see the setup and a little bit of Montana's--uh--response. Look at where the linebackers are relative to NAU's overloaded right side before the snap. You can't play an overloaded side like that with everyone inside the tight ends. That's not the linebacker's fault. That's a coach not making good adjustments.
The problem is, if you bring Tripp out to the edge, basically shifting all your linebackers toward NAU's right, you have to have a safety capable of picking up the other side----a 46 Defense. You can't see it in this video, but NAU had one receiver way out on the left hash.
Once NAU figured out how UM was going to react, the Lumberjacks just kept shoving that same play down Montana's throats, same side every time. It really isn't fair to blame Jordan Tripp
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtnXRkqAgLs[/youtube]

You're good Griz4life. The first two runs especially. I forgot how ugly that last run really was. How many missed tackles, six?
A couple of the Griz defenders looked to be in position to make the play too. Ouch!

 

[grizbrokebacker1]

Do tell, is this news or just more fizz hopes and dreams

Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Since you brought it up and put the information on a public forum presumably without the consent of Na'a, it's also a violation of HIPAA so I'm sure the feds would like to know.

 

[brian s]

I laugh at us arguing who is the best of our Linebackers, when any coach in the BSC would gladly take our 3rd best LB and would instantly start over any of his LB's. It's a good problem to have. Life is good and the Griz will have an amazing year in 2013.

You obviously don't know much about some of the other LB's out there in the BSC, IMO Coyle is the only one that would have a shot at starting for the Cats and even then I would take Na'a over him anyway.
UNC is pretty stacked at LB this year, not sure any of your guys would make starters there, EWU and SAC both have solid groups that your guys may not make the cut either.

You really don't know football very well do you? There isn't a cat line backer that would start for the griz. The cat coaches even know and acknowledge this. Now, after this group of seniors is gone the cats will have a large edge at LB. But until then they will remain far behind the griz starters.

Also, this isn't solely direct at you but also some other griz posters making claims. Coyle is a good linebacker, in fact he will among the best in the conference this year. However, he simply is not on the same level as Tripp. A good all around backer but nonetheless he has struggled to completely solidify himself and become a great player. Something Tripp and JP did early on. I would put him and JP roughly tied for the best behind Tripp. Tripp will be drafted. Coyle most likely will get a undrafted free agent deal. I hope he takes it from there and does well, but in reality I don't think he will make it past the first round or two of cuts. Also, looking at tackles to compare the two isn't a correct evaluation. A MLB should get roughly 1.5 or more times the tackles of an OLB.

I have no doubt the griz will have the best front 7 in the conference next year and there isn't a backer who isn't a griz who could start for the griz. I do worry very much though about the LB position after this group is gone.

You have been reading too many draftnic postings. You can direct all of your comments to the Griz posters who know that Coyle is the best LB on the team, and there are quite a few of us. Funny how Coyle had way more tackles than Tripp last season, even though he missed much of the first two games. The spread will be even greater this season. Coyle is going have a senior season much like McSurdy's, if he can stay healthy. Your opinion has been duly noted, but that is all it is, your opinion, nothing more. By the way, I do not think Tripp gets drafted. Free agent. If he does, it will be in the 7th round. And don't count out Coyle getting making it in the NFL either.

 

[MrTitleist]

Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Since you brought it up and put the information on a public forum presumably without the consent of Na'a, it's also a violation of HIPAA so I'm sure the feds would like to know.

I'm not so sure you understand what a HIPAA violation is..

 

[Copper Griz]

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Since you brought it up and put the information on a public forum presumably without the consent of Na'a, it's also a violation of HIPAA so I'm sure the feds would like to know.

I'm not so sure you understand what a HIPAA violation is..

Everyone knows Having IPA is Acceptable. Did Na'a have IPA's and if he did who disclosed it without his consent. This is a serious HIPAA violation. Someone call the Feds. Someone call the Feds.

 

[Thurman Murman]

I laugh at us arguing who is the best of our Linebackers, when any coach in the BSC would gladly take our 3rd best LB and would instantly start over any of his LB's. It's a good problem to have. Life is good and the Griz will have an amazing year in 2013.

You obviously don't know much about some of the other LB's out there in the BSC, IMO Coyle is the only one that would have a shot at starting for the Cats and even then I would take Na'a over him anyway.
UNC is pretty stacked at LB this year, not sure any of your guys would make starters there, EWU and SAC both have solid groups that your guys may not make the cut either.

You really don't know football very well do you? There isn't a cat line backer that would start for the griz. The cat coaches even know and acknowledge this. Now, after this group of seniors is gone the cats will have a large edge at LB. But until then they will remain far behind the griz starters.

Also, this isn't solely direct at you but also some other griz posters making claims. Coyle is a good linebacker, in fact he will among the best in the conference this year. However, he simply is not on the same level as Tripp. A good all around backer but nonetheless he has struggled to completely solidify himself and become a great player. Something Tripp and JP did early on. I would put him and JP roughly tied for the best behind Tripp. Tripp will be drafted. Coyle most likely will get a undrafted free agent deal. I hope he takes it from there and does well, but in reality I don't think he will make it past the first round or two of cuts. Also, looking at tackles to compare the two isn't a correct evaluation. A MLB should get roughly 1.5 or more times the tackles of an OLB.
I have no doubt the griz will have the best front 7 in the conference next year and there isn't a backer who isn't a griz who could start for the griz. I do worry very much though about the LB position after this group is gone.

You have been reading too many draftnic postings. You can direct all of your comments to the Griz posters who know that Coyle is the best LB on the team, and there are quite a few of us. Funny how Coyle had way more tackles than Tripp last season, even though he missed much of the first two games. The spread will be even greater this season. Coyle is going have a senior season much like McSurdy's, if he can stay healthy. Your opinion has been duly noted, but that is all it is, your opinion, nothing more. By the way, I do not think Tripp gets drafted. Free agent. If he does, it will be in the 7th round. And don't count out Coyle getting making it in the NFL either.

You know he is better huh? Well the stats, accolades, and career production say otherwise. But I will stand by my statement which we will have to wait until draft day to evaluate. But you just keep "knowing" who is better. Obviously you don't "know" much if you are comparing the tackles of a MLB and an OLB. Perhaps you should re-read the section in bold above.

Don't get me wrong. I think coyle is a solid LB and believe he will have a good senior year. I have said before that he is among the best in the conference. However, he has yet to do anything to show he is a great LB and he is now a senior. Comparing him to Jordy is simply Naïve. I hope and feel that they both will have an all American year, but at this point only one of them has show the promise of it.

 

[Thurman Murman]

Shoulder injury.. Out for the year unless he changed his mind and decided not to have the surgery, but last I heard he had decided to have surgery.

From what? It's July. You'd think (depending on when the injury happened) he'd have the surgery sooner. What's your source?

Not sure what from. I would assume something football related. As for my source, that is for me and them to know and nobody else. Let me see if I can find out if/when he had surgery or if it is only planned at this point.

Since you brought it up and put the information on a public forum presumably without the consent of Na'a, it's also a violation of HIPAA so I'm sure the feds would like to know.

Haha. You may want to brush up on your understanding of HIPPA there buddy. I am not a health professional, and specifically a health professional/person with personal knowledge of the injury. Nice try though.