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Weber State to host First Round CBI Game

Congrats! Hope you guys kick some ass in the CBI and represent the Big Sky well. The more Big Sky teams in tournaments the better!

I hope the Griz end up in the NIT. There's an outside shot it sounds like according to the "experts".

I wonder if NAU has a shot of getting in the CBI... They are another team that could make some waves in a tournament like that with their incredibly efficient offense and 3 point shooting. Their RPI was 151 (Weber is 152) and they played some good teams close earlier in the year ( Arizona, USC, Creighton). Would love to see them get a shot in the CBI too.
 
As if we didn't know it already but the Big Sky is just not a good basketball conference. One need look no further than what St. Mary's did to Weber State on thurs.....and that great win at UCLA might not have been so great, even though at the time, it seemed like it.....oh, well, there is always next year and refs to blame....
 
GrizLA said:
As if we didn't know it already but the Big Sky is just not a good basketball conference. One need look no further than what St. Mary's did to Weber State on thurs.....and that great win at UCLA might not have been so great, even though at the time, it seemed like it.....oh, well, there is always next year and refs to blame....
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They beat Weebs by 23 and we beat them by 17, so what's your point. This is of course a disheartened Weber team,also. And I still consider that UCLA win one of the greatest in Griz history. Are you even REALLY a fan or do you just like stirrin' the pot?
 
SeaGrizluvr said:
GrizLA said:
As if we didn't know it already but the Big Sky is just not a good basketball conference. One need look no further than what St. Mary's did to Weber State on thurs.....and that great win at UCLA might not have been so great, even though at the time, it seemed like it.....oh, well, there is always next year and refs to blame....
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They beat Weebs by 23 and we beat them by 17, so what's your point. This is of course a disheartened Weber team,also. And I still consider that UCLA win one of the greatest in Griz history. Are you even REALLY a fan or do you just like stirrin' the pot?
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Grow up! I was at Pauley and saw a Griz team take advantage of the worst night of bball at pauley pavillion by a team that was anything but good this year. last night's fiasco proved that....As for being dispirited, seems to me, St. Mary's lost a game just 5 days to Gonzaga, and the conference title....My point is that just because UM beat Weber...once, by the way, and St. Mary's blew them out, and the were few out of conference wins for any Big Sky team, I think it is safe to say, as do the NCAA tourney, the ESPN and people who know basketball, that the Big Sky is just not a very good conference in Basketball...guess that makes me a bad fan and you somewhat of an jerk. Isn't that right?
 
GrizLA said:
As if we didn't know it already but the Big Sky is just not a good basketball conference. One need look no further than what St. Mary's did to Weber State on thurs.....and that great win at UCLA might not have been so great, even though at the time, it seemed like it.....oh, well, there is always next year and refs to blame....
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No need to get all emo over the Big Sky this year. It's a lot better than the RPI shows. There are some very good teams in the Big Sky this year, and there are some very low ranked teams as well which really drags the RPI of the entire conference down.

Lets look at the top of the Big Sky (Top 4).

UNC - No "good" wins (top 100). However they did play Illinois (possible 11 seed with 46 RPI) pretty close earlier in the year at Illinois.
Griz - Beat UCLA (#43 in RPI, 2nd in the PAC10 and likely a 7 seed).
Weber - Played Tulsa (81 RPI) at Tulsa very close after losing Lillard. Also played BYU (#5 in RPI and likely 2 seed) VERY close at BYU.
NAU - Played Arizona (17 RPI and likely 5 seed) @Arizona very close, and gave USC (67 rpi and possible 12 seed) a great game too.

Even look at ISU. They gave Colorado a good game earlier this year. Colorado may very well end up in the NCAA tournament too.

Sure, the Big Sky isn't as highly rated in RPI as they were last year, but I don't think anyone is going to be looking past a Big Sky team in the tournaments this year, or it may come back to bite them in the ass big time.

As I said before, the more teams we get in tournaments the better. More exposure for our teams, and more experience against quality opponents. I'm hoping NAU gets an invite to the CBI too, and I really think they deserve it.

Since it looks like we are going to be in the Big Sky for a while, I really hope we start trying to get home & home deals going with more of the higher up mid major programs, and even try scheduling some more top 50 teams even if it means we have to travel a bit more in the non-conference season. Look at what Oakland did this year. They scheduled some very tough opponents, and it really paid off when conference rolled around, and got them some pretty good exposure in non-conference.

The great thing about Basketball is it's not like Football in that there are rarely big time upsets. There are always "Cinderella" teams in the big dance. If a highly ranked team looks past a lower ranked team in one of the tournaments, they are going to end up with a fight on their hands and possibly losing.
 
GrizLA said:
SeaGrizluvr said:
GrizLA said:
As if we didn't know it already but the Big Sky is just not a good basketball conference. One need look no further than what St. Mary's did to Weber State on thurs.....and that great win at UCLA might not have been so great, even though at the time, it seemed like it.....oh, well, there is always next year and refs to blame....
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They beat Weebs by 23 and we beat them by 17, so what's your point. This is of course a disheartened Weber team,also. And I still consider that UCLA win one of the greatest in Griz history. Are you even REALLY a fan or do you just like stirrin' the pot?
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Grow up! I was at Pauley and saw a Griz team take advantage of the worst night of bball at pauley pavillion by a team that was anything but good this year. last night's fiasco proved that....As for being dispirited, seems to me, St. Mary's lost a game just 5 days to Gonzaga, and the conference title....My point is that just because UM beat Weber...once, by the way, and St. Mary's blew them out, and the were few out of conference wins for any Big Sky team, I think it is safe to say, as do the NCAA tourney, the ESPN and people who know basketball, that the Big Sky is just not a very good conference in Basketball...guess that makes me a bad fan and you somewhat of an jerk. Isn't that right?
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Thanks for proving my point. Get your facts straight. We beat Weber State TWICE this year! How is 23 points a "blowout" but 17 points just a win. And what fiasco was "last night" involving the Griz? And so the Bruins finishing 2nd Pac-10 doesn't make a good team. And we didn't play awesome that night to beat UCLA(defense especially). Not only are you not a real fan at heart, I don't think you REALLY know much about the game. :shock:
 
SeaGrizluvr said:
GrizLA said:
SeaGrizluvr said:
GrizLA said:
As if we didn't know it already but the Big Sky is just not a good basketball conference. One need look no further than what St. Mary's did to Weber State on thurs.....and that great win at UCLA might not have been so great, even though at the time, it seemed like it.....oh, well, there is always next year and refs to blame....
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They beat Weebs by 23 and we beat them by 17, so what's your point. This is of course a disheartened Weber team,also. And I still consider that UCLA win one of the greatest in Griz history. Are you even REALLY a fan or do you just like stirrin' the pot?
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Grow up! I was at Pauley and saw a Griz team take advantage of the worst night of bball at pauley pavillion by a team that was anything but good this year. last night's fiasco proved that....As for being dispirited, seems to me, St. Mary's lost a game just 5 days to Gonzaga, and the conference title....My point is that just because UM beat Weber...once, by the way, and St. Mary's blew them out, and the were few out of conference wins for any Big Sky team, I think it is safe to say, as do the NCAA tourney, the ESPN and people who know basketball, that the Big Sky is just not a very good conference in Basketball...guess that makes me a bad fan and you somewhat of an jerk. Isn't that right?
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Thanks for proving my point. Get your facts straight. We beat Weber State TWICE this year! How is 23 points a "blowout" but 17 points just a win. And what fiasco was "last night" involving the Griz? And so the Bruins finishing 2nd Pac-10 doesn't make a good team. And we didn't play awesome that night to beat UCLA(defense especially). Not only are you not a real fan at heart, I don't think you REALLY know much about the game. :shock:
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if you had read correctly, you would see that UCLA was blown out by Oregon in LA...they were over rated, and like so many nationally recognized teams, recieved great support for being highly ranked...the Rpi means nothing..not even considered in the tourney...If the BSC had such great wins, why then is the UCLA LOSS being considered a low point in Bruin basketball history, and why are they only recieving one entry to the tourney and most likely a 16 seed...losing to Illinois is hardly a recommendation....and beating Weber without their star player is like kissing your sister...sorry....glad you can see the BSC as a good conference...people should support it, i guess. I just think it is not a good conference, at present, and, I suspect most would agree with me....but, cheerleaders are always welcome and are part of the game....
 
GrizLA said:
SeaGrizluvr said:
GrizLA said:
SeaGrizluvr said:
They beat Weebs by 23 and we beat them by 17, so what's your point. This is of course a disheartened Weber team,also. And I still consider that UCLA win one of the greatest in Griz history. Are you even REALLY a fan or do you just like stirrin' the pot?
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Grow up! I was at Pauley and saw a Griz team take advantage of the worst night of bball at pauley pavillion by a team that was anything but good this year. last night's fiasco proved that....As for being dispirited, seems to me, St. Mary's lost a game just 5 days to Gonzaga, and the conference title....My point is that just because UM beat Weber...once, by the way, and St. Mary's blew them out, and the were few out of conference wins for any Big Sky team, I think it is safe to say, as do the NCAA tourney, the ESPN and people who know basketball, that the Big Sky is just not a very good conference in Basketball...guess that makes me a bad fan and you somewhat of an jerk. Isn't that right?
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Thanks for proving my point. Get your facts straight. We beat Weber State TWICE this year! How is 23 points a "blowout" but 17 points just a win. And what fiasco was "last night" involving the Griz? And so the Bruins finishing 2nd Pac-10 doesn't make a good team. And we didn't play awesome that night to beat UCLA(defense especially). Not only are you not a real fan at heart, I don't think you REALLY know much about the game. :shock:
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if you had read correctly, you would see that UCLA was blown out by Oregon in LA...they were over rated, and like so many nationally recognized teams, recieved great support for being highly ranked...the Rpi means nothing..not even considered in the tourney...If the BSC had such great wins, why then is the UCLA LOSS being considered a low point in Bruin basketball history, and why are they only recieving one entry to the tourney and most likely a 16 seed...losing to Illinois is hardly a recommendation....and beating Weber without their star player is like kissing your sister...sorry....glad you can see the BSC as a good conference...people should support it, i guess. I just think it is not a good conference, at present, and, I suspect most would agree with me....but, cheerleaders are always welcome and are part of the game....
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I DID read correctly and that game was thursday night, not last night...your are so confused, are you okay? :roll: Judging by your rant, I highly doubt. Once again, thanks for showing your basketball ignorance(and giving me a good laugh). :lol:
 
Yes, UCLA got blown out by Oregon, but they also blew out Arizona and beat BYU earlier in the year. They also damn near beat Kansas in Kansas (controversial call at the end).

I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that UCLA losing to Montana is being viewed as a low point in Bruin basketball history. While the Big Sky isn't a power conference it has a lot more respect than you are giving it credit for. The Griz blew out Oregon last year in Oregon (remember, Oregon just "blew out" UCLA), so wouldn't the "blowout" loss against Oregon be a lower point for UCLA than their loss to Montana?

No one is saying the Big Sky is a great conference..but I really don't think it's as bad as some people seem to think.

I'm not sure where you are getting some of the info you are claiming either... RPI not considered in the tourney? It may not be a deciding factor but a teams RPI rating is considered, and is also very useful to us fans & analysts in guessing where a team is going to be seeded and which bubble teams will make it. Of course there are other factors, but it's not just a useless number. I also seriously doubt UNC will be a 16 seed. Right now Lunardi has them as a 15, and judging by the other teams in the tournament at the 14 and 16, I'm guessing 15 is where they'll end up.

Look at some of the other teams in the tournament that are likely 16 seeds:

Boston U (132 RPI)
UNC Asheville (148 RPI)
Alabama St (269 RPI) / Hampton (163 RPI)
Arkansas-Little Rock (189 RPI) / McNeese St. (147 RPI)

UNC should be a 16 seed and one of those teams should be a 15 instead? I think not :)
 
The local Los Angeles media seems to disagree with you...I am not going to defend or knock the UM win..it was what it was...and sure UCLA had close games and wins...so what? They are still a low achieving team with high caliber players that found it tough to play as a team...frankly, I am a Stanford supporter in the Pac 10...and it doesn't really matter to me who wins..but to say the BSC is respected in national basketball circles is a stretch. I wish UM would win every game..but, I am a bad fan....so, what is it the kids say ..GFY?
 
GrizLA said:
The local Los Angeles media seems to disagree with you...I am not going to defend or knock the UM win..it was what it was...and sure UCLA had close games and wins...so what? They are still a low achieving team with high caliber players that found it tough to play as a team...frankly, I am a Stanford supporter in the Pac 10...and it doesn't really matter to me who wins..but to say the BSC is respected in national basketball circles is a stretch. I wish UM would win every game..but, I am a bad fan....so, what is it the kids say ..GFY?
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So a few newspapers called it the low point for UCLA? BFD. I wonder how many of the journalists that said that actually follow college basketball outside of the Pac-10? Look, I wanted the Griz to move out of the Big Sky too and into the WAC, but the fact is the Big Sky has a pretty good history in Basketball itself, and is a lot more well respected than you and apparently a couple journalists in LA seem to think.

I'm guessing if you asked people who actually know and follow College Basketball (not just one conference or one team), they would agree with me. Sure the Big Sky isn't a power conference, but they sure as hell aren't a conference you can look past when you have a game against one of their the top teams in the Big Sky.

Also, I'd like to read some of the articles you read saying that the loss to the Griz was the low point for UCLA. What context was it in? Was it the low point of the season? Or were they saying it was the low point for UCLA Basketball in their entire history, as you said? Anyone who would write that, or say that, should have their head examined, and obviously does not follow college basketball outside of the small group of teams in the PAC-10.

As for the last part of your rant, I never said you were a bad fan. One would think someone with a Stanford education would be a little better at reading comprehension and not have to resort to a "GFY" to end an argument. If you want to take this discussion in that direction though, by all means, go ahead and make an ass out of yourself. :roll:
 
WILDCATFAN said:
Weber to host a first round game at the Dee Events Center either tuesday or wednesday. opponent will be known Sunday at 8pm

You can never have too much College hoops, especially if its your own team :D .
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Before anyone goes off on another thread on egriz.com onto a tangent that has nothing to do with the beginning posting, let's wish Weber State a successful postseason appearance in the CBI, what ever that is. Is this the first year for that, the CBI, that is? Not the other; that's almost always a daily routine.

Oh, by the way. Go Wildcats!!!!
 
Dexter X said:
GrizLA said:
The local Los Angeles media seems to disagree with you...I am not going to defend or knock the UM win..it was what it was...and sure UCLA had close games and wins...so what? They are still a low achieving team with high caliber players that found it tough to play as a team...frankly, I am a Stanford supporter in the Pac 10...and it doesn't really matter to me who wins..but to say the BSC is respected in national basketball circles is a stretch. I wish UM would win every game..but, I am a bad fan....so, what is it the kids say ..GFY?
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So a few newspapers called it the low point for UCLA? BFD. I wonder how many of the journalists that said that actually follow college basketball outside of the Pac-10? Look, I wanted the Griz to move out of the Big Sky too and into the WAC, but the fact is the Big Sky has a pretty good history in Basketball itself, and is a lot more well respected than you and apparently a couple journalists in LA seem to think.

I'm guessing if you asked people who actually know and follow College Basketball (not just one conference or one team), they would agree with me. Sure the Big Sky isn't a power conference, but they sure as hell aren't a conference you can look past when you have a game against one of their the top teams in the Big Sky.

Also, I'd like to read some of the articles you read saying that the loss to the Griz was the low point for UCLA. What context was it in? Was it the low point of the season? Or were they saying it was the low point for UCLA Basketball in their entire history, as you said? Anyone who would write that, or say that, should have their head examined, and obviously does not follow college basketball outside of the small group of teams in the PAC-10.

As for the last part of your rant, I never said you were a bad fan. One would think someone with a Stanford education would be a little better at reading comprehension and not have to resort to a "GFY" to end an argument. If you want to take this discussion in that direction though, by all means, go ahead and make an ass out of yourself. :roll:
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Isn't it funny that the lowly Bruins actually WILL be in the tourney(which doesn't sound too lowly to me).
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The lowly Pac-10 produced one of the most exciting CBB games in recent memory in last night's UW/ARIZONA Championship.

Oh and go Wildcats! :D
 
Nevermind, after the CBI promised Weber a first round home game, they turned around and gave it to Oregon.

What a jip, Im pretty pissed right now
 
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