I should also note that there was no handshake line at the end of the game as well. That was a first for me to see that, too. Perhaps neither team wanted any kind of a post-game dustup?grizzlyjournal said:There's a second story thread that I just have to put on the table, but don't really understand. It started before the game's opening tip when the entire Seattle team (everyone from coaches to assistants, to trainers to players etc.) stayed in the locker room until after the national anthem was over. I've watched basketball games for many, many years and have never seen a team entirely skip the anthem. Then...only minutes into the first quarter, SU guard Bree Calhoun -- a quick, feisty, great shooting point guard -- stole the ball from Sophia Stiles, but was called for the reach-in foul. Calhoun got face-to-face with Stiles and clapped her hands inches from Sophia's face, immediately getting whistled for the technical. Calhoun didn't return until the second half. But there seemed to be some strange tension between Montana players and Calhoun and another SU player, McKenzi Williams. The odd thing was that the Montana players seemed puzzled by the situation, and no other SU player showed any animosity or aggressiveness toward Montana. But throughout the rest of the game, Calhoun and Williams were constantly in Montana players' faces while confronting the refs as well. At one point, one of the refs walked up to Williams, pointed her finger directly at Williams, and said something pretty directly as a warning. It didn't work. Williams continued the chatter until, with both teams lined up at the ft line after a Williams foul, a different ref quickly called a technical on Williams. He walked right up to Williams and signaled the T about 1 foot from her face. Minutes later, Calhoun was called for a flagrant foul in which Sammy Fatkin (I think) while in-air to get a rebound, was jerked down to the floor, where she fell flat on her back (I didn't see it all, so if anyone had a better view, go for it). All this time the Seattle coach seemed pretty passive, occasionally shrugging, but never really arguing with the ref. A very strange scenario. The tension was clear, but it was obvious that coach Holsinger had cautioned his team against any give and take: all the Griz and all the other players played a hard, clean game. The game was called fairly by the refs (18 fouls on SU, 17 on Montana). I was certainly puzzled by the situation. I plan to watch the SU Bobcats game to see how it unfolds. Anyway: an oddly tense game overall where Montana gave more solid hints that it'll be a team to be reckoned with... especially if the treys keep falling at 35% plus from here on. Go Griz.
P.S. I am NOT trying to connect the two SU players to the team not being on the floor for the national anthem. I am also not really trying to create any kind of conspiracy. It was just... well, unusual.
MissoulaCanucksFan said:I should also note that there was no handshake line at the end of the game as well. That was a first for me to see that, too. Perhaps neither team wanted any kind of a post-game dustup?grizzlyjournal said:There's a second story thread that I just have to put on the table, but don't really understand. It started before the game's opening tip when the entire Seattle team (everyone from coaches to assistants, to trainers to players etc.) stayed in the locker room until after the national anthem was over. I've watched basketball games for many, many years and have never seen a team entirely skip the anthem. Then...only minutes into the first quarter, SU guard Bree Calhoun -- a quick, feisty, great shooting point guard -- stole the ball from Sophia Stiles, but was called for the reach-in foul. Calhoun got face-to-face with Stiles and clapped her hands inches from Sophia's face, immediately getting whistled for the technical. Calhoun didn't return until the second half. But there seemed to be some strange tension between Montana players and Calhoun and another SU player, McKenzi Williams. The odd thing was that the Montana players seemed puzzled by the situation, and no other SU player showed any animosity or aggressiveness toward Montana. But throughout the rest of the game, Calhoun and Williams were constantly in Montana players' faces while confronting the refs as well. At one point, one of the refs walked up to Williams, pointed her finger directly at Williams, and said something pretty directly as a warning. It didn't work. Williams continued the chatter until, with both teams lined up at the ft line after a Williams foul, a different ref quickly called a technical on Williams. He walked right up to Williams and signaled the T about 1 foot from her face. Minutes later, Calhoun was called for a flagrant foul in which Sammy Fatkin (I think) while in-air to get a rebound, was jerked down to the floor, where she fell flat on her back (I didn't see it all, so if anyone had a better view, go for it). All this time the Seattle coach seemed pretty passive, occasionally shrugging, but never really arguing with the ref. A very strange scenario. The tension was clear, but it was obvious that coach Holsinger had cautioned his team against any give and take: all the Griz and all the other players played a hard, clean game. The game was called fairly by the refs (18 fouls on SU, 17 on Montana). I was certainly puzzled by the situation. I plan to watch the SU Bobcats game to see how it unfolds. Anyway: an oddly tense game overall where Montana gave more solid hints that it'll be a team to be reckoned with... especially if the treys keep falling at 35% plus from here on. Go Griz.
P.S. I am NOT trying to connect the two SU players to the team not being on the floor for the national anthem. I am also not really trying to create any kind of conspiracy. It was just... well, unusual.
As for the game itself, it was a game where Montana was firing on all cylinders while Seattle was like deer in the headlights from the 2nd quarter onward. I think switching out Tsineke for Huard might have provided the spark UM needed. All of Huard's 12 points game from three-pointers, but Tsineke played lights out from the bench. Maybe having Tsineke play off the bench might be have been the wake-up call she needed to hopefully work her way back to a starting role down the road, so I'll be curious to see if Huard will start again on Monday.
Also loved seeing Willa Albrecht, Lisa Kiefer, and Lamprini Polymini get some action. Polymini got more playing time but I think her ball-handling could use some work, as she had a couple of turnovers. Last night marked the first time I had ever seen Albrecht play in person (outside of the scrimmage) since we fans weren't allowed at Dahlberg last season, and the same for Kiefer and it was good to see her get in on the action.
Cuervohola said:I loved Kiefer's excitement after getting that free throw. Coach could have put her in a long time before that, though.
As far as the National Anthem, it doesn't surprise me a bit, they are from a Communist City.
But they are "Catholic"... Uh Huh... As "Godly" as Al Sharpton.
I'm done, just pointing out the obvious.
DoubleNicks said:GJ, my take on the foul to Fatkin that they reviewed and changed to flagrant on Seattle appeared to me that the Seattle player was just going for the rebound. She definitely caught Fatkin under the arm which threw her off balance but didn't look like anything other than a common foul to me. But you can decide. Here's the replay:
https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/b3c9feab-365c-46c5-9ede-434d318fce8a
The play in question is at about the 1:27:50 mark and the closer endline replay starts at 1:32:25.
Good win by the ladies. I was thinking this three game stretch could either be some really solid mid major wins or easily be losses if the LG didn't come ready to go. Hopefully, the great play continues on Monday.
grizzlyjournal said:DoubleNicks said:GJ, my take on the foul to Fatkin that they reviewed and changed to flagrant on Seattle appeared to me that the Seattle player was just going for the rebound. She definitely caught Fatkin under the arm which threw her off balance but didn't look like anything other than a common foul to me. But you can decide. Here's the replay:
https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/b3c9feab-365c-46c5-9ede-434d318fce8a
The play in question is at about the 1:27:50 mark and the closer endline replay starts at 1:32:25.
Good win by the ladies. I was thinking this three game stretch could either be some really solid mid major wins or easily be losses if the LG didn't come ready to go. Hopefully, the great play continues on Monday.
DoubleNicks: I watched the play where the SU player was called for the intentional foul. I agree: It was a pretty hard foul, but it didn't seem intentional or flagrant to me. My initial description of the foul was incorrect in that there was no grabbing involved.
maroonandsilver said:MissoulaCanucksFan said:I should also note that there was no handshake line at the end of the game as well. That was a first for me to see that, too. Perhaps neither team wanted any kind of a post-game dustup?
The teams waved at each other after the game, as all teams did last year. I thought it was a return to Covid precautions.
grizzlyjournal said:As for the flag situation: I'm holding my opinion until I watch SU's game vs. the Cats in Bozeman. Which brings me to: Is Montana State really planning to keep the women's game scheduled for 3 p.m. on Saturday? If so, that does not signal much respect to women's basketball in Bozeman, since there'll be a football playoff game in progress a few blocks away.
grizzlyjournal said:Is Montana State really planning to keep the women's game scheduled for 3 p.m. on Saturday? If so, that does not signal much respect to women's basketball in Bozeman, since there'll be a football playoff game in progress a few blocks away.
grizzlyjournal said:Cats win 76-49. MSU trailed SU at half, was behind by four (36-32) with 6 minutes remaining in the third, but then scored 12 straight (3 treys) and coasted.