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Wayne tinkle Rumor Mill

Proud Griz Man said:
wbtfg said:
mtgrizrule said:
Rockygriz said:
hope tinkle gets a chance for a big contract soon! he won't get it here. I love our program, but this guy's earned more than he's getting from u of m.


Fortunately for the GRIZ, his family loves Montana, they are not struggling, he is as passionate for GRIZ basketball as any coach, and it will be hard for any coach to leave a combo of Will Cherry and Kareem Jamar. A lot of teams from major conferences don't have the guard combo the GRIZ do. One more years with this combination would be very hard to leave for another job.

I've heard a couple times that Tinkle was waiting for Elle to graduate. Tres, on the other hand is eager to compete against better competition than what is offered in Montana High Schools.

I could be wrong, but if something opened up in an area with great high school bball that get a lot of attention from D-I recruiters, that Wayne and Tres would jump at the chance.

I've heard a couple times that you have really cool "We beat the f'n Griz" T-shirts made up for bobcat fans and then MSU lost to the Griz in 1997 ? Please send me a XL. Looks like those shirts haven't been in very high demand the last two decades, and in fact, not at all this year. :o :o :clap: :clap:

And bopping over to see Elle play in Spokane is a hell of a lot easier trip from Missoula than the Bay Area is to see Jos play...Family is a big time consideration for the Tinkles.
 
Proud Griz Man said:
GrizLA said:
..Howland gambled and lost, and he is not alone...And, like so many programs that focus only on winning, the off campus antics, so familiar to UM football fans, are now commonplace and reflect the arrogance of the pampered kid valued only for their athletic skills. I hope Howland is not let go, but returns to what he does best. But, I am afraid that a good coach, human being, and family guy, and recruiter like Tinkle will be asked to take over either the Bruin program or the hapless but promising USC bunch. Time will tell...

So other than you, who is mentioning Wayne Tinkle's name as a promising candidate for the UCLA or USC head coaching job ??? LA Times ? OC Register ? LA Daily News ? LB Press Telegram ?
Sorry, did not mean to say they ARE..but face it, Montana basketball coaches have a great track record and Tinkle is no exception. Both ADs are facing hostile alumni and changes are coming. Tinkle would be a great choice and if they have not considered or are considering him, they do not deserve their overpaid jobs. he would be a natural choice for either...and both pay well, have spirited student bodies, great academics and backing, updated or new facilities and both are presumably aware of how Montana and other Big Sky schools seem to glean talent from the crop overlooked by others....I hope he stays at UM for years...
 
Lets see, WT is established at UM and has emerging stars Cherry and Jamar coming back. Ward and Weisner return. The Griz have really good young talent on the bench and redshirting. UM has very Promising recruiting underway. Nice large automobile. Beautiful House, with a Beautiful Wife. David Byrne must have met WT.

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Why do we continualy accept the fact that our coaches are under paid. Sooner or later we have to either step up and pay our coaches at least on par with the top tier FCS teams and the top tier BB mid majors or drop down and play Div 2. Hogan once said "if other schools aren't trying to steal our coaches, we hired the wrong coach" He was right on with that comment, however we make their choice far too easy. When I see what many of the other FCS schools are paying their coaches for teams that draw less then 10k for their games and the same with BB we should be embarassed. The Butler coach was getting around $600k even before he ever made the final 4. Gonzaga used to be in the Big Sky. Thier coaches aren't so quick to leave. Wayne should be getting twice what he's getting. Even that is at the low end for a Div 1 school but it would probably make moving on not as attractive. If we're going to play Div 1 then we should at least be competative in all areas.
 
Excellent post! Until our AD and President gather the courage to make a bold presentation to the regents, a competitive increase won't happen and Tinkle will move on.
 
Spanky said:
Excellent post! Until our AD and President gather the courage to make a bold presentation to the regents, a competitive increase won't happen and Tinkle will move on.

Does tinkle have anything like quarterback club? I would imagine if enough people joined they could supplement his salary significantly....
 
wbtfg said:
Does tinkle have anything like quarterback club? I would imagine if enough people joined they could supplement his salary significantly....

Yep...the Roundball Club.
 
gotgame75 said:
wbtfg said:
Does tinkle have anything like quarterback club? I would imagine if enough people joined they could supplement his salary significantly....

Yep...the Roundball Club.

Does that supplement his salary? Is membership at capacity?
 
Spanky said:
Excellent post! Until our AD and President gather the courage to make a bold presentation to the regents, a competitive increase won't happen and Tinkle will move on.


I'm just sayin"

What other business lets their talent leave so freely? We have some good coaches. Let's try and at least fight for them to stay. How much does it cost to do the searches to replace them every 5 years?
 
Jud Heathcote1977–1978 Michigan St. 25-5 15-3 1st NCAA Elite Eight
1978–1979 Michigan St. 26-6 13-5 1st NCAA Champions
Jim Brandenburg 1987 Wyoming Sweet Sixteen 1 UNLV L 92-78
Mike Montgomery1987–1988 Stanford 21–12 11–7 4th NIT 2nd Round
1988–1989 Stanford 26–7 15–3 2nd NCAA 1st Round
1989–1990 Stanford 18–12 9–9 6th NIT 1st Round
1990–1991 Stanford 20–13 8–10 5th NIT Champions
1991–1992 Stanford 18–11 10–8 4th NCAA 1st Round
1992–1993 Stanford 7–23 2–16 10th None
1993–1994 Stanford 17–11 10–8 5th NIT 1st Round
1994–1995 Stanford 20–9 10–8 5th NCAA 2nd Round
1995–1996 Stanford 21–8 12–6 3rd NCAA 2nd Round
1996–1997 Stanford 22–8 12–6 T–2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen
1997–1998 Stanford 30–5 15–3 2nd NCAA Final Four
1998–1999 Stanford 26–7 15–3 1st NCAA 2nd Round
1999–2000 Stanford 27–4 15–3 T–1st NCAA 2nd Round
2000–2001 Stanford 31–3 16–2 1st NCAA Elite 8
2001–2002 Stanford 20–10 12–6 T–2nd NCAA 2nd Round
2002–2003 Stanford 24–9 14–4 2nd NCAA 2nd Round
2003–2004 Stanford 30–2 17–1 1st NCAA 2nd Round
2008–2009 California 22–11 11–7 T–3rd NCAA 1st Round
2009–2010 California 24–11 13–5 1st NCAA 2nd Round
2010–2011 California 18–15 10–8 T-4th NIT Second Round
Stew Morrill

1999–00 Utah State 28–6 16–0 1st(Eastern) NCAA First Round
2000–01 Utah State 28–6 13–3 2nd NCAA Second Round
2001–02 Utah State 23–8 13–5 T–1st NIT First Round
2002–03 Utah State 24–9 12–6 3rd NCAA First Round
2003–04 Utah State 25–4 17–1 T–1st NIT First Round
2004–05 Utah State 24–8 13–5 2nd NCAA First Round
2005–06 Utah State 23–9 11–5 T–2nd NCAA First Round
2006–07 Utah State 23–12 9–7 4th NIT First Round
2007–08 Utah State 24–11 12–4 T–1st NIT First Round
2008–09 Utah State 30–5 14–2 1st NCAA First Round
2009–10 Utah State 27–8 14–2 1st NCAA First Round
2010-11 Utah State 30-4 15-1 1st NCAA First Round
Don Holst
Pat Kennedy
Blaine Taylor
1991–1992 Montana 27–4 14–2 1st NCAA 1st Round
1992–1993 Montana 17–11 8–6 4th
1993–1994 Montana 19–9 6–8 6th
1994–1995 Montana 21–9 11–3 2nd NIT 1st Round
1995–1996 Montana 20–8 10–4 3rd
1996–1997 Montana 21–11 11–5 2nd NCAA 1st Round
1997–1998 Montana 16–14 9–7 5th
2004–2005 ODU 28–6 15–3 1st NCAA 1st Round
2005–2006 ODU 24–10 13–5 4th NIT Semifinals
2006–2007 ODU 24–9 15–3 2nd NCAA 1st Round
2007–2008 ODU 18–16 11–7 4th CBI Quarterfinals
2008–2009 ODU 25–10 12–6 3rd CIT Champions
2009–2010 ODU 27–9 15–3 1st NCAA 2nd Round
2010–2011 ODU 27–7 14–4 2nd NCAA 2nd Round
Larry Kryskowiak

2004–05 Montana 18–13 9–5 2nd NCAA First round
2005–06 Montana 24–7 10–4 2nd NCAA Second round

The one's in bold got away, and have been pretty great else where. Montana never paid them. What makes you think they're gonna pay Tinkle? He should set he and his family up for life, like any of the rest of us would. A ton of coaches getting paid more than Tinkle, and they're pretty mediocre. Hope Wayne get's what he deserves. Great job coach.
 
Spanky said:
Excellent post! Until our AD and President gather the courage to make a bold presentation to the regents, a competitive increase won't happen and Tinkle will move on.
Or not...sometimes, it is not about the money...
 
GrizLA said:
Spanky said:
Excellent post! Until our AD and President gather the courage to make a bold presentation to the regents, a competitive increase won't happen and Tinkle will move on.
Or not...sometimes, it is not about the money...


you said it !!!!

... There’s also a group of coaches (a group that I longed to be a member of, although I never was presented with the opportunity) who sincerely want to stay at their job and see how high they can build it. Jerry Tarkanian was one. He agonized over the UNLV offer when he was at Long Beach State and came oh-so-close to staying at LBSU (where he’d had incredible success) until an administrator made some disparaging remarks about the type of person he would consider Tark if he decided to leave. The NBA offers that came when he was achieveing all that success at UNLV caused Jerry more angst. He never did leave and, went to the Final Four on four different ocasions, eventually winning one. Note: After he was out of coaching, the San Antonio Spurs hired him but that stay lasted all of 20 games.

Another coach in this neighborhood is Mark Few. Although he’s had numerous opportunities to leave Gonzaga, he has, to date, turned all of them down. There was a time that people, mainly the talking heads, questioned him about the wisdom of not accepting an offer from one of the “big” schools so he could have a chance to win a National Championship. Instead, he stayed with the Zags and made them National Championship contenders. His friend and former running mate at Gonzaga was Dan Monson. Few and Monson were assistants to Dan Fitzgerald in the early ’90s.

Few must have learned from his buddy, who had in his contract that he would be the head coach when Fitz decided to retire. Once he did and Monson took over, he made sure it was written in Few’s contract that, should Monson leave, Few was guaranteed the head coaching job. Note: Few’s contract has a provision that assistant Leon Rice be named the coach when Few leaves. Wise move. How hard do you think that assistant is going to work, knowing that if he performs his job well enough, his boss might get one of those big paying jobs, where he’d make a enough dough to retire on (when he wanted)?

Although Fitz was a heckuva coach in his own right, the program took off when Monson took over. He was offered the Minnesota job and took it. It was in a bigger league, he made a ton of money and … became miserable. Ultimately, he was let go by UM and is currently the head coach at, coincidentally, Long Beach State. Monson should have known that chasing the dollar (and, after all, that’s the real reason these guys are leaving) was a bad idea after his father Don, who had enjoyed tremendous success at the University of Idaho, took the Oregon job, where he had some success, but not nearly as much as he would have had if he stayed. His mentor, Jud Heathcote, left a great program at the University of Montana for a down-and-almost-out head coaching job at Michigan State. Don eventually got fired at the school where Nikes were invented.

At a level below Division I is coaching legend Don Meyer, currently the head coach at Northern State in Aberdeen, SD. Don started his head coaching career at Hamline (MN) University, then moved to David Lipscomb University in Nashville, TN and enjoyed unparalled success there. One day, he was told the university was making plans to move into Division I. Don thought it was a foolish move and said so. The president (or director of athletics) told him their crosstown rival Belmont was doing it and so were they - with him or without him. In a previous blog, I ended with a quote that said, “Anytime you say, ‘It’s this or else, be prepared for all else.’”

Don left, Northern State couldn’t have been happier and a flurry of wild events happened next. First, Don got into a terrible car accident and doctors were forced to amputate his left leg, just below the knee. Don, being Don, got discharged from the hospital and is now … coaching at Northern State. On January 11, Northern State, and its coach, Don Meyer, won a basketball game, making Don the all-time winningest mens collegiate basketball coach.

These guys worked. Job offers came their way. But, in other places, guys can’t wait to move and one day, many of them get that opportunity, but not because their offensive or defensive strategy is talked about nation-wide, but because they have to. They just got fired. The reason: Usually it’s a combination, but the main one is a syndrome in the making.

My former boss and current mentor and friend, George Raveling, used to say of these guys:

“Some guys work harder at getting their next job than they do at the one they have.”
 
a couple of quotes less than a year old, I believe...

"Traveling with my family the last couple of days has been great for me," Tinkle said. "They helped me realize there are great people in Montana, which we've always known. And I made a commitment to our guys that we were going to chase some things together. We feel like there's unfinished business and we want to keep at it."

"The undaunted support I got from Jim O'Day and the administration ... further justified why we love Montana so much," Tinkle said.
 
I wonder if wt could negotiate an attendance bonus. If um averages 6k fans a game, tinks.gets 30k extra
 
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