Was the targeting of Johnson intentional?

[HelenaHandBasket]

Well, it is tackle football. Just because he made a shitty decision that led to an even shittier conclusion doesn't mean it was premeditated with the goal of concussing the guy and knocking him out of the game.

Did 46 intend to hit Johnson in the head with his (46's) head? Obviously, he did. Johnson didn't move or duck or get knocked partially down. I wish nothing but bad luck to 46. Dirty play and dirty player.

I am fairly sure that you have no idea what his intentions were, and if it were a Griz, would you make the same wild assumptions?

 

[Spanky2]

If he didn’t plan to do it, why did he do it?

Well, it is tackle football. Just because he made a shitty decision that led to an even shittier conclusion doesn't mean it was premeditated with the goal of concussing the guy and knocking him out of the game.

Oh, I think absolutely his goal was to knock him out of the game.

 

[Htowngriz]

Did 46 intend to hit Johnson in the head with his (46's) head? Obviously, he did. Johnson didn't move or duck or get knocked partially down. I wish nothing but bad luck to 46. Dirty play and dirty player.

I am fairly sure that you have no idea what his intentions were, and if it were a Griz, would you make the same wild assumptions?

It is an assumption, but not a wild one IMO, given the circumstances of the play.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Well, it is tackle football. Just because he made a shitty decision that led to an even shittier conclusion doesn't mean it was premeditated with the goal of concussing the guy and knocking him out of the game.

Oh, I think absolutely his goal was to knock him out of the game.

If so, I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Did 46 intend to hit Johnson in the head with his (46's) head? Obviously, he did. Johnson didn't move or duck or get knocked partially down. I wish nothing but bad luck to 46. Dirty play and dirty player.

I am fairly sure that you have no idea what his intentions were, and if it were a Griz, would you make the same wild assumptions?

In that situation, it is absolutely impossible for 46 not to have intentionally lowered his head/helmet to hit Johnson in the head/helmet. Do you think 46's head/helmet just lowered itself accidentally? Do you think 46 was aiming at Johnson's chest, but accidentally hit Johnson in the head? That doesn't mean intent to hurt Johnson. But it wasn't just a random hit of two players helmets/heads. In football and rugby, I have made thousands and thousands of tackles, and not once did I hit someone in the head with my head. Especially someone who was pretty much standing still.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I am fairly sure that you have no idea what his intentions were, and if it were a Griz, would you make the same wild assumptions?

In that situation, it is absolutely impossible for 46 not to have intentionally lowered his head/helmet to hit Johnson in the head/helmet. Do you think 46's head/helmet just lowered itself accidentally? Do you think 46 was aiming at Johnson's chest, but accidentally hit Johnson in the head? That doesn't mean intent to hurt Johnson. It wasn't just a random hit of two players helmets/heads.

I think he used poor technique, dropped his head, and lost site of his target. I don't for a second think he went head-to-head on purpose. You won't convince me otherwise, just like I won't convince you.

 

[mthoopsfan]

In that situation, it is absolutely impossible for 46 not to have intentionally lowered his head/helmet to hit Johnson in the head/helmet. Do you think 46's head/helmet just lowered itself accidentally? Do you think 46 was aiming at Johnson's chest, but accidentally hit Johnson in the head? That doesn't mean intent to hurt Johnson. It wasn't just a random hit of two players helmets/heads.

I think he used poor technique, dropped his head, and lost site of his target. I don't for a second think he went head-to-head on purpose. You won't convince me otherwise, just like I won't convince you.

Did he intentionally drop his head, or did it just magically drop? Johnson's head didn't move. 46 put his helmet right into Johnson's head. A guy started 10 games from Texas, doesn't know what he may hit when he lowers his head at the last split second? 46 intentionally put his head down and intentionally hit Johnson in the head. Sorry, it just can't be any other way. When someone punches a guy in the face, in a bar fight outside a bar, and the guy falls down, hits his head, and dies, the punch to the face was intentional. That doesn't mean that the puncher wanted to hurt or kill the other guy.

Poor technique? How was it poor technique?

 

[Sport]

I guess we'll never know will we? Time to move on.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I guess we'll never know will we? Time to move on.

I know. I know how to tackle and how tackles are made. Jeez, I'm trying to teach some of these guys something. This is my area of expertise. Do you just want egriz to continue to be stupid?

 

[CatsRback]

The year is 2033, The university of missoula is still in the BSC. The reason for this? Because of a cheap shot 11 years ago. Was it pre meditated? Follow along this 100-page thread by real sports analysts who without a doubt know the truth, to find out.

 

[mthoopsfan]

The year is 2033, The university of missoula is still in the BSC. The reason for this? Because of a cheap shot 11 years ago. Was it pre meditated? Follow along this 100-page thread by real sports analysts who without a doubt know the truth, to find out.

As others have said, you are an idiot. And an irritant. Are you just a little kid, or immature?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Poor technique? How was it poor technique?

IDK, maybe be dropping his head and leading with it. Exactly what a good coach teaches them not to do.

 

[Spanky2]

I think he used poor technique, dropped his head, and lost site of his target. I don't for a second think he went head-to-head on purpose. You won't convince me otherwise, just like I won't convince you.

Did he intentionally drop his head, or did it just magically drop? Johnson's head didn't move. 46 put his helmet right into Johnson's head. A guy started 10 games from Texas, doesn't know what he may hit when he lowers his head at the last split second? 46 intentionally put his head down and intentionally hit Johnson in the head. Sorry, it just can't be any other way. When someone punches a guy in the face, in a bar fight outside a bar, and the guy falls down, hits his head, and dies, the punch to the face was intentional. That doesn't mean that the puncher wanted to hurt or kill the other guy.

Poor technique? How was it poor technique?

I have been the the person punched in the head in a bar fight. I can assure you the puncher wanted to hurt me and he did. In the case of 46, I believe he wanted to hurt our qb and take him out of the game and he did.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Poor technique? How was it poor technique?

IDK, maybe be dropping his head and leading with it. Exactly what a good coach teaches them not to do.

That's not poor technique. That's intentional targeting of a defenseless qb. Just as I have been saying.

 

[SaskGriz]

In that situation, it is absolutely impossible for 46 not to have intentionally lowered his head/helmet to hit Johnson in the head/helmet. Do you think 46's head/helmet just lowered itself accidentally? Do you think 46 was aiming at Johnson's chest, but accidentally hit Johnson in the head? That doesn't mean intent to hurt Johnson. It wasn't just a random hit of two players helmets/heads.

I think he used poor technique, dropped his head, and lost site of his target. I don't for a second think he went head-to-head on purpose. You won't convince me otherwise, just like I won't convince you.

It's been mentioned before, but if you watch the replay that is shot from behind the play, he very clearly keeps his eyes up until the very last moment. He is aiming at Johnson's head, adjusts his angle to line the shot up, then drops his head and launches. I called it "a crime of opportunity", I don't think he went into the game looking to take out the QB but he saw his chance and 100% did it intentionally.
Sorry I just re-read the end of your post, never mind.

 

[poorgriz]

The only thing we can ALL be sure of.... is if that kid had a maroon jersey on, PR would have a completely different take on this. That I can promise you.

 

[3-7-77]

Ever play billiards? That's 'shoot pool' for the illiterate. He aimed, sized up his shot, and put LJ in the corner pocket. The penalty for this type of assault is far too light. There should be an evaluation by the conference after the game, and the penalty should be season ending for the perp, and game forfeiture by the school. #46 is a thug.

 

[Bear Spray]

Nope. You don't have a clue, and you never played the game. Again, feel free to point out any dirtier play you have ever seen in college football.

Add another one to the top 10 for this week. Watch the Youtube link sent previously & take your pick. Does high school count for playing the game? Asking for a friend....

Hey, I'm still waiting on some clarification here, curiosity's killing the Cat as they say. Is it college ball? High school? Does flag football count if the team was city champs in 1972? How about Madden 2022?? Does it matter what decade the experience came from? Come on, man! Tell me! Don't ghost me mthoopsterRep!

 

[mthoopsfan]

Add another one to the top 10 for this week. Watch the Youtube link sent previously & take your pick. Does high school count for playing the game? Asking for a friend....

Hey, I'm still waiting on some clarification here, curiosity's killing the Cat as they say. Is it college ball? High school? Does flag football count if the team was city champs in 1972? How about Madden 2022?? Does it matter what decade the experience came from? Come on, man! Tell me! Don't ghost me mthoopsterRep!

Mostly NFL, playing against Ryan Leaf in high school, playing against Elway in Little Griz and playing on a top 15 D-I team. With flag football, it depends on who was on the opposing team.

 

[Bear Spray]

Hey, I'm still waiting on some clarification here, curiosity's killing the Cat as they say. Is it college ball? High school? Does flag football count if the team was city champs in 1972? How about Madden 2022?? Does it matter what decade the experience came from? Come on, man! Tell me! Don't ghost me mthoopsterRep!

Mostly NFL, playing against Ryan Leaf in high school, playing against Elway in Little Griz and playing on a top 15 D-I team. With flag football, it depends on who was on the opposing team.

That's incredible! To be clear though I wasn't asking about your experience, not everything is about you after all. I was asking what amount of football experience one needs to pass the 'never played the game' test. For example Bobby played football in Big Timber in the 80's, a juggernaut program in MT history. Go Herders! And despite the fact that my flag football team would have kicked those same Herders collective asses (we super glued our flags to our belts...), he's done pretty well for himself. Bobby shall pass the test. Bob Costa, Chris Fowler, Joe Black, Mike Triico - never played the game. Granted they aren't regular posters here, but if they were.....well, you see where I'm going. But no pass for Ye. No F'n way.