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WaGriz could take some pointers from CenturyLink Field

Brint, cool description of MNF in Seattle. Hell, I attended a Saturday night preseason game between the Seahawks and Titans in 2010 and the place was rocking the whole night, and even in the preseason they did the whole game production, fireworks, videos, and the seahawk eye thing that comes on the screens with the warning siren when they want the crowd to get really loud is flat out awesome.

Couple of points though, I don't really think it's fair to use an NFL team as an example of how the Griz game day atmosphere should be, and the only reason I say that is $$$. The amount of money spent on things like we're talking about by NFL teams is chump change to them, but I bet if we knew how much is spent, it would be A HELL OF A LOT MORE than the university of Montana could afford to spend on it.

I agree with you on the #37 flag. First, it's a direct rip-off of the 12th-man flag, and I don't have a problem with that. But why, if Montana did that, do they do it so lamely each week, way before the crowd gets in the stadium and then show a video of it later? It's weak and meaningless to about everyone but whoever raises it at this point. At this point, all the UM did was take a really cool idea and make it really boring and lame.

Lastly, Sorry your Packers got screwed!
 
Grizbeer said:
Kurtis I have been in the NEZ longer than 11 years, first bumming tickets from friends in the boom crew and 130, then getting my own permanent seats after the '03 expansion, and I can say without a doubt that this years crowd is pretty much like every other years crowd for September. Seriously search egriz, you will see the same thing every year.

It's frustration and helplessness you are feeling, and looking for something to blame, hoping that something has changed. it is the same reason people wear lucky shirts or underwear or whatever other game day superstitions they have, trying to control what is not under your control.

Trust me, 100% of your effort to increase crowd involvement has 100% the opposite effect of what you are trying to accomplish. The more you berate your fellow fans to not be lame and stand up and cheer, the less likely they are to do it. You have now shifted focus from the field to you (the people who stand up and look behind them waving their arms in the air are the worst - what do you want us to pay attention and cheer for, the team or you? And shouldn't you be focused on the action on the field, and not the crowd?). Now instead of being excited and paying attention to what is happening on the field, they just know they are insulted and irritated by SuperFan who is trying to OutFan them and tell them what a bad fan they are. If you have noticed a diminished excitement and participation in the fans around you, perhaps you are the problem? maybe they are just really irritated with you, and refusing to participate as a result?

If you really and truly think the crowd is bad and not what it used to be, try this next game - sit the whole game (or at least sit unless the Griz are on defense on the North End of the field. Don't scream your lungs out every play, just listen to a few series. Don't try to get the other fans involved. Don't try to be a section leader. Don't tell anyone else what to do. Don't be an ass to anyone around you in pursuit of SuperFandom. Just watch the game, take in the atmosphere, and enjoy it. See how your surrounding fans do, You might be surprised. And rejuvenated. And possibly, even happy.

That is my suggestion, at least try it before we agree to tear the whole thing down.

Well said sir, well said. :thumb:
 
Grizbeer said:
Kurtis I have been in the NEZ longer than 11 years, first bumming tickets from friends in the boom crew and 130, then getting my own permanent seats after the '03 expansion, and I can say without a doubt that this years crowd is pretty much like every other years crowd for September. Seriously search egriz, you will see the same thing every year.

It's frustration and helplessness you are feeling, and looking for something to blame, hoping that something has changed. it is the same reason people wear lucky shirts or underwear or whatever other game day superstitions they have, trying to control what is not under your control.

Yep. The difference is, in years past it's been Fort Lewis, Western State and Western Oregon we've been playing in these early games and the crowd didn't matter as much.
 
mikegriz said:
Grizbeer said:
Kurtis I have been in the NEZ longer than 11 years, first bumming tickets from friends in the boom crew and 130, then getting my own permanent seats after the '03 expansion, and I can say without a doubt that this years crowd is pretty much like every other years crowd for September. Seriously search egriz, you will see the same thing every year.

It's frustration and helplessness you are feeling, and looking for something to blame, hoping that something has changed. it is the same reason people wear lucky shirts or underwear or whatever other game day superstitions they have, trying to control what is not under your control.

Trust me, 100% of your effort to increase crowd involvement has 100% the opposite effect of what you are trying to accomplish. The more you berate your fellow fans to not be lame and stand up and cheer, the less likely they are to do it. You have now shifted focus from the field to you (the people who stand up and look behind them waving their arms in the air are the worst - what do you want us to pay attention and cheer for, the team or you? And shouldn't you be focused on the action on the field, and not the crowd?). Now instead of being excited and paying attention to what is happening on the field, they just know they are insulted and irritated by SuperFan who is trying to OutFan them and tell them what a bad fan they are. If you have noticed a diminished excitement and participation in the fans around you, perhaps you are the problem? maybe they are just really irritated with you, and refusing to participate as a result?

If you really and truly think the crowd is bad and not what it used to be, try this next game - sit the whole game (or at least sit unless the Griz are on defense on the North End of the field. Don't scream your lungs out every play, just listen to a few series. Don't try to get the other fans involved. Don't try to be a section leader. Don't tell anyone else what to do. Don't be an ass to anyone around you in pursuit of SuperFandom. Just watch the game, take in the atmosphere, and enjoy it. See how your surrounding fans do, You might be surprised. And rejuvenated. And possibly, even happy.

That is my suggestion, at least try it before we agree to tear the whole thing down.

Well said sir, well said. :thumb:


Well said except I never claimed to waive my arms and try to get my section involved. I don't do that. I do stand and cheer when Griz are on defense, at least the 3rd down. I don't stand on offense unless it is with the rest of the stadium after a score or turnover. I also agree September games are generally not as loud, but the Liberty game was down right catatonic. Congratulations on being in the NEZ longer than I have, I hope it makes you feel good about yourself. I never claimed to be "superfan" either. All my post was trying to say is the intensely loud games are a lot more fun. It is great when everyone is yelling and cheering and high fiving. Thanks for your comments.
 
Screamin_Eagle174 said:
BWahlberg said:
Seahawk fans are rare breed, their intensity is on a whole different level than what I've ever been a part of. For the most part they are/were great fans. I can say without a doubt that even as just a fan wearing Green and Gold - I was intimidated. While friendly, the entire fan base there was amped up beyond anything I've ever seen at a Griz game.

Great post. Glad you enjoyed your trip (other than the outcome). MNF + the 8 sacks I'm sure led to a ridiculous intensity level, but it's almost always LOUD. If you leave with your voice intact, you're doing it wrong.

I am still in awe of the experience, I've had a ton of people tell me today that the trip must've sucked... to which I told them, no way, it was one of the most amazing football experiences of my life.

BTW - if that call would've been over-turned, I probably wouldn't be posting, there would've been a riot and I'm pretty sure anyone/everyone in Pack gear would've been hospitalized, lol.
 
havgrizfan said:
Brint, cool description of MNF in Seattle. Hell, I attended a Saturday night preseason game between the Seahawks and Titans in 2010 and the place was rocking the whole night, and even in the preseason they did the whole game production, fireworks, videos, and the seahawk eye thing that comes on the screens with the warning siren when they want the crowd to get really loud is flat out awesome.

Couple of points though, I don't really think it's fair to use an NFL team as an example of how the Griz game day atmosphere should be, and the only reason I say that is $$$. The amount of money spent on things like we're talking about by NFL teams is chump change to them, but I bet if we knew how much is spent, it would be A HELL OF A LOT MORE than the university of Montana could afford to spend on it.

I agree with you on the #37 flag. First, it's a direct rip-off of the 12th-man flag, and I don't have a problem with that. But why, if Montana did that, do they do it so lamely each week, way before the crowd gets in the stadium and then show a video of it later? It's weak and meaningless to about everyone but whoever raises it at this point. At this point, all the UM did was take a really cool idea and make it really boring and lame.

Lastly, Sorry your Packers got screwed!

I agree and I made a quick reference to that, comparing NFL "budget" for the production of the game vs FCS is apples and oranges. I do the the possibility that the UM can do more, improve coordination, re-vamp the pregame, be more innovated with crowd involvement that will help make more games than just playoff games and MSU games exciting again.
 
OldtiredGRiz said:
Brint gave an excellent narrative of the Century Link experience...in short, it is a crazy place, just plain nuts. But for me, the NFL just doesn't have the same heart and passion as the college game. Since Century Link opened about 10 years ago, I've been to 5 or 6 games (not as many as WA/Griz) and enjoyed every one. The difference for me, however, is the lack of an abiding love for the home team. The dog and pony show is amazing, but it's just not the same....UM is my school, my alma mater and will always be a part of me...during my days there, the Griz still played at Dornblaser, so WA/Griz is sort of a mecca for me...nothing can match the sensations pulsing through my bones when I climb into the car to set off for a weekend in Missoula.

Believe me there was love for the team with the 'Hawks fans there. Seattle takes heavy pride and ownership in their teams (Mariners, Seahawks, Sounders). Seeing the fan/business/community passion for the team reminded me of how I felt when I was in New Orleans in 2010, a year after their superbowl win. The Saints ARE New Orleans because they saw the football team recover while their city did the same. Now the Saints are part of that town's DNA. You don't see that in other sports towns, there's only a select few that I've been in where the team is part of the community.
 
Grizbeer said:
Kurtis I have been in the NEZ longer than 11 years, first bumming tickets from friends in the boom crew and 130, then getting my own permanent seats after the '03 expansion, and I can say without a doubt that this years crowd is pretty much like every other years crowd for September. Seriously search egriz, you will see the same thing every year.


This. Thank you.

My wife and I have been sitting in our same seats for 12 years, right next to the NEZ.

This comes up year, after year, after year.
 
The production that is Grizzly football is and isn't the same, IMO. It's the same in the sense that it's not changed much in almost 10 years, the pre-game antics are tired (to me), the flood of corny marketing is the same - just presented differently. There seems to be a lack of innovation and changes.

Heck the skydivers are done now as well. (I realize that's not at the fault of the UM

Remember the Monte movies? Those were great. We used to have the video board put up coaches quotes about how they're not worried about the WaGriz noise. We used to show highlight reel videos more often. The screen used to prompt the Montana Grizzlies chants. I remember being excited for pre-game... not so much anymore. And after what I saw on Monady, pre-game can really get the crowd going.
 
Raider said:
Grizbeer said:
Kurtis I have been in the NEZ longer than 11 years, first bumming tickets from friends in the boom crew and 130, then getting my own permanent seats after the '03 expansion, and I can say without a doubt that this years crowd is pretty much like every other years crowd for September. Seriously search egriz, you will see the same thing every year.


This. Thank you.

My wife and I have been sitting in our same seats for 12 years, right next to the NEZ.

This comes up year, after year, after year.

No kidding. People seem to expect the crowd to be at the same level as the UNI playoff game, but that just isn't going to happen in September against a mediocre opponent.
 
grizcountry420 said:
grizfnz said:
Taking out seats after increasing the price of admission from $60 a seat in 1995 to $230 now would not be wise. The failure to not sell out homecoming tickets should provide enough evidence that the fans are at a breaking point. Factor in the same old music, stupid promotions, Monte intro etc. for the last 10 years and "the greatest show in Montana" begins to lose its luster. The U is killing the golden goose and they better get things figured out soon or they will find themselves being passed up by forward thinking programs that aren't ripping off their fan base by sprinkling sugar on a piece of $hit and charging 4 star prices.

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Exactly but others will tell you otherwise..... :coffee:

You won't hear otherwise from me. Like the guy with the family of 5 said, it can be done with decisions on spending levels, but beyond the $ being a huge factor I also am beginning to factor in the cost of the trip to Missoula, hotels, meals, etc. While I am there for the game, I can watch most games on the tube. What I can't get through the TV is the "other" parts of the game that happen before the cameras roll or during commercial. With the way the game is marketed at the stadium now there is very little differentiation because instead of seeing soft drink and fast food commercials on TV I am seeing a Coke Kiss Cam and Jimmy Johns Sandwich Eating Contests on GrizVision.

As to Brint's original post, you are right about it being a great atmosphere and an event. The staff need to mix it up a bit. How about having a past great lead the team onto the field wearing a era specific jersey? How about reviving the $10,000 field goal kick for a fan? How about someone get the G-R-I-Z, Griz, Griz, Griz chant going before every kickoff, ripping off the Jets Fireman? How about introducing the captains as they run out of the tunnel for the coin flip? How about a Griz walk where the players and coaches walk through the fans out tailgating? I love the South Endzone idea that someone through out there too. There is a lot that can be done, it just needs to happen before the buzz is completely worn off.
 
BWahlberg said:
Screamin_Eagle174 said:
BWahlberg said:
Seahawk fans are rare breed, their intensity is on a whole different level than what I've ever been a part of. For the most part they are/were great fans. I can say without a doubt that even as just a fan wearing Green and Gold - I was intimidated. While friendly, the entire fan base there was amped up beyond anything I've ever seen at a Griz game.

Great post. Glad you enjoyed your trip (other than the outcome). MNF + the 8 sacks I'm sure led to a ridiculous intensity level, but it's almost always LOUD. If you leave with your voice intact, you're doing it wrong.

I am still in awe of the experience, I've had a ton of people tell me today that the trip must've sucked... to which I told them, no way, it was one of the most amazing football experiences of my life.

BTW - if that call would've been over-turned, I probably wouldn't be posting, there would've been a riot and I'm pretty sure anyone/everyone in Pack gear would've been hospitalized, lol.
:lol:

I saw a refs meme to that affect, but can't seem to find it.

You picked a hell of a game to go to. My first was 2005 vs. the Giants... 12th man caused an NFL record 11 false starts, and their kicker Jay Feely missed 3 FGs between the 4th Q and OT that would have won the game. With about 5 min to go in OT, Hawks finally got a drive going and Josh Brown kicked the game winner. I couldn't talk at all the next day.
 
BWahlberg said:
So as many know this Monday I attended the Packers vs Seahawks Monday night name. And while the game is mired in controversy over poor officiating and a catch that might've been an interception or a simultaneous catch.

As a Pack fan it sucks to see them lose especially in that fashion, however as just a fan of football in general I was blown away with the production, the event, and the experience that was/is CenturyLink Field and Seattle Seahawks football. My seats were in their north-endzone equivalent, also on the north end, the Hawks Nest. I'd like to say I sat there... but sitting wasn't an option, in fact as I looked around the stadium about half of it was continuously on their feet the whole game.

Seahawk fans are rare breed, their intensity is on a whole different level than what I've ever been a part of. For the most part they are/were great fans. I can say without a doubt that even as just a fan wearing Green and Gold - I was intimidated. While friendly, the entire fan base there was amped up beyond anything I've ever seen at a Griz game.

We get into the stadium and the first thing that makes an impression on me as the game gets started is the player introduction. I recorded it on my phone, however it was so loud in there the sound got all distorted and messed up. The whole stadium is on their feet, waiving white 12th man towels. The video BUILDS up, the music doesn't just come in and the intro smacks you in the face but it's a built up thing, there's fireworks, there's fanfare - it set the tone right from the start.

Here's a user-shot video I found on youtube from the Cowboys one, just hearing the song and seeing this again gives me chills as it did while I watched on Monday. I'll post the one I shot as well this afternoon but due to the distortion it really doesn't give it much credit. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7noKkG3fvyI[/youtube]

Then, they raise the 12th man flag. Unlike our #37 flag which is just plainly announced and done without any fanfare, they make a production out of it. For the MNF game it was Trent Dilfer - there was a quick video montage from his Seahawk days (forgot he even was one!) and then there was a camera with him which was behind him showing him standing and over-looking the field, waiving his 12th man towel. The crowd goes NUTS and then he raises the flag. There was a great build-up for this as well.

Then, there was the game. There was an incredibly similarity in fan knowledge of the game, when to be quiet, when to go nuts, etc. 3rd down was UNREAL in there. A Seahawks fan that chatted with me in a bar after the game told me on his crappy ear-phone speaker for his cell phone it registered 112 decibels over and over again. The first touchdown, a deep 45 yard bomb - the place erupted. It was so loud in there you could "feel" the noise inside you practically, the seats/stands vibrated, people were insane... the whole game. You'd think the noise would actually have been louder for their "winning" TD however many started heading out to beat the rush after the 'Hawks failed to pick up a previous 1st down/TD with 2:00 left.

I get that this was a huge stage and a unique game for Seattle, but as I've been told over and over it's always that way there. The players fed off the fan intensity. That intensity was brought up (as I saw it) through a well-planned out and produced build up with the player intros, the pre-game, the raising the flag, and the continual crowd involvement events during the game. The Seahawks responded on the field and made big play after big play.

Another thing that helped seem to keep the crowd going was that many players had cheers/chants/etc for them. Obviously there's Lynch's beastmode stuff but there were other guys that would get cheers such as, "Brrrruuuuuuuccccceeeee!" (for one of the many guys that sacked Rodgers) which would be aided by the video board that would put up the cheer/chant/etc for the player.

The whole thing was a massive production on a level that I've never seen before. Now can WaGriz copy it? No, it sure cant, comparing an FCS level stadium/experience to an NFL one just can't be done. However we as Griz fans pride ourselves on the game day experience that is Grizzly football. What I saw on Monday was two fold. There was the careful, thoughtful, and well-planned production that elevated the crowd to a frenzy. And then there was a fan base that was absolutely rabid and stayed that way the whole night.

Some things that I took away that I think we and Grizzly Athletics should consider:

- Map out and use all of the intros/pre-game stuff to build up when the players come out. Look at the way the Seahawks team is introduced and see if you can apply a hype/ramp-up video when Monte comes out. Mix up his pre-game stuff too (and I'm not just talking about a different car). Then get some excitement around the 37 flag, put a camera up there, give it a bigger intro that Peter Christian just saying, "raising the flag today is Ryan Featherston." meh... show some clips of Feather making plays, add some hype music, get a shot of him up there waiving his arms to get the crowd going, THEN raise the flag).

- I suppose we're stuck with the We Are Montana video, it's not bad at all just too similar to last years.

- Urge more crowd involvement during the game, put up chants/cheers/etc. Don't just play raise a little hell but get some new damn material.

- Consider (for seasons ahead) to remove the seats entirely in sections of the NEZ and pre-warn people that sit there, offer incentives for those that want to move to the NEZ and trade with those that choose to sit. Get that section crazy again and not complacent.

- Serve beer in the stadium. The amount of sales that could be made selling beer there (I paid $9 for a small glass of Shocktop at CenturyLing) could probably be so great it would wipe out the need for half of the dumb ads that are on the screen in-between plays.

- The fans can reciprocate, stand the heck up on 3rd down at least throughout the whole stadium. I don't care if it's Fort Lewis, South Dakota, EWU, or MSU...

- Hold more challenges and contests to see which section can cheer the loudest, make it fun, add in giveaways.

- Also consider an incentive for people to get their butts back into the stadium after the half. Maybe try something fun (a mini candy bar if you're back inside the gates no later than 2:00 after the start) or try something more dramatic - don't allow re-admission once the 3rd qtr is halfway though. Of course making it fun would be better.

- More giveaways, I'd rather see a stadium waiving towels or blowing horns rather than catching a t-shirt fired out of a cannon.

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That's my thoughts. CenturyLink was an amazing experience. Sure I'm bummed the Pack lost but as someone that lives for "the experience" that stadium is the Mecca of gameday experiences. And I've been to Lambeau as well... doesn't hold a candle to what I was a part of on Monday. It was incredible.

We as Griz fans and our department can do better. I don't think anyone is not trying, I know the UM has excellent staff and creative minds. It's time to rock the boat and get things moving upward again.

GO GRIZ!

This post is long over due. Well said. Whoever is in charge of the Game Day experience, take a drive to Seattle as soon as possible and go to a game. The pre-game and game time experience at UM has become so boring and actually takes away from many peoples game experience. Change is ok, and often good.
 
Htowngriz said:
Raider said:
Grizbeer said:
Kurtis I have been in the NEZ longer than 11 years, first bumming tickets from friends in the boom crew and 130, then getting my own permanent seats after the '03 expansion, and I can say without a doubt that this years crowd is pretty much like every other years crowd for September. Seriously search egriz, you will see the same thing every year.


This. Thank you.

My wife and I have been sitting in our same seats for 12 years, right next to the NEZ.

This comes up year, after year, after year.

No kidding. People seem to expect the crowd to be at the same level as the UNI playoff game, but that just isn't going to happen in September against a mediocre opponent.

I was told not to tell other fans how to behave..same goes both ways..other fans shouldn't be telling me or Hammer or several other NEZoners to sit down when we are standing and yelling during 3rd down on defense. (or any down on defense) And, no I don't expect September crowds to be on the level of a playoff game, but a nice medium would have been nice. NAU was not a mediocre opoponent, if they are the Griz are not that good. It was a BSC game, those are sorta important to win, especially at home..I just thought the crowd could've been a little more into it. Not coming back to seats until 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter is their perogative but it makes it hard for the stadium to be loud when only 1/2 the people are in their seats. I'm well aware this is a reoccuring topic on eGriz through the years, but if you didn't notice the crowd was especially quiet during the Liberty game maybe he missed that one or you were deaf.
 
OldtiredGRiz said:
Brint gave an excellent narrative of the Century Link experience...in short, it is a crazy place, just plain nuts. But for me, the NFL just doesn't have the same heart and passion as the college game. Since Century Link opened about 10 years ago, I've been to 5 or 6 games (not as many as WA/Griz) and enjoyed every one. The difference for me, however, is the lack of an abiding love for the home team. The dog and pony show is amazing, but it's just not the same....UM is my school, my alma mater and will always be a part of me...during my days there, the Griz still played at Dornblaser, so WA/Griz is sort of a mecca for me...nothing can match the sensations pulsing through my bones when I climb into the car to set off for a weekend in Missoula.

Great post, thanks!

I think one of the problems is the 'Griz Experience' is changing from a sort of organic thing driven by the fans to a hyper-produced thing where the production is perhaps not so good.
 
OK, I have not graduated from the U of M in the last 5, 10, or even 25 years, even considering graduate degrees. I won't go back any further, but I certainly could. To many of you, I am an old fart, taking up a good NEZ seat, along with my wife. We have had season tickets for longer than the ages of some posters on e-griz. We travel to ALL home games. We stay in Missoula at least one night. We wear our griz-gear with pride. We cheer as loud as our aged bods will allow. We stand for much of the game, and have on occasion, stood the entire game.

Here's my point. Yes, we do sit at times. We even have those rented stadium seats. Frankly I do not see any problem with us sitting when there is a lull in the game. I am not going to go into what a "game-lull" is. Use your own definition. I have never asked someone to sit down in front of us, although at times we have had a portion of our field of view blocked. What harm have we done with our choosing to sit, yet we still scream, stomp, whistle and snort, our hearts off for our GRIZ?

The NEZ has changed. We are older. The drunken "kids" that were behind us 10-15 years ago, are now there with their own kids. Is this bad? I think not. Are they still as loud? Probably. Are they louder than my wife and me? Doubtful, but maybe?

At half time we ALWAYS stay in the stadium, and usually don't even venture beyond the pop-shop or restrooms. There is ALWAYS some form of halftime entertainment provided for the few that choose to stay and watch.

The U of M marching band is awesome. These kids practice long and hard so that they may perform, with pride, prior, during, and at halftime of the game, in support of the Griz. We all claim to be loyal fans and backers of the Griz, but must our support be limited to only the football team? The band members are Griz also. What would be so wrong with staying in the stadium and enjoying the program? Besides the hard working and talented band and dance team, we have watched girls flag-football, Lil Griz football, and future Griz cheerleaders from the ages of 3-10. You have never been truly entertained until you have watched 20, 3-5 year old "future Griz", all doing the same cheer, all in a different manner, different direction and to a different beat!

You damn bettcha I like my beer. I do find though that I am able to wait until after the game to "re-fuel" at one of the local watering holes. My wife and I do not find a need to leave the stadium for the half-time tailgating that is offered. We get to the tailgate early enough to "fuel" us through the entire game. We are in our seats when they kick-off for the 3rd quarter of the Griz football game. We are in a vast minority in that fact, and that is NOT true of just the NEZ.

My bottom line is the same message that many others have already stated. Lets support our Griz the FULL 4 QUARTERS of the game. If you find it necessary to re-fuel at halftime, and just can't stand the entertainment, get your ears checked and start listening for the 5 minute warning BOOM telling Griz fans it is time to get ready for our 12th man on the field responsibilities.

Again, yup, I am still an old fart. But a GRIZ first and foremost. Don't blame us for what is happening with our stadiums GRIZ fan support. OK? Having seats in the NEZ or the SEZ is not the problem.

P.S. We know a couple who drive over from Spokane for EVERY home Griz game. They are in their 80's. They do sit for most of the game. They cheer the best they can. They love to "hi-five" after a Griz score. Try telling them that they are not loyal Griz because they sit. Good luck with that! :mrgreen:
 
in the mid-late 90's wa-griz was less about extraneous amenities and more about just plain old football. i honestly think all that needs to be done is cut the incessant and repetitive commercials and promos, and just show some stats. don't give the fans much to think about other than football, and the atmosphere will pick up. in other words, let the explosions happen on the field. people's attention is focused on so much 'other' crap these days, it feels like less and less pay attention to the actual game. if all there is to focus on is the game, that is where people's minds and voices and enthusiasm would be focused on, too.

i like football. i watch football for football, not flags or music or chants or waves or fireworks or inspirational videos or mascots or lottery games. a return to the days when it was all about football is my druthers. the video screen should be for stats.
 
argh! said:
in the mid-late 90's wa-griz was less about extraneous amenities and more about just plain old football. i honestly think all that needs to be done is cut the incessant and repetitive commercials and promos, and just show some stats. don't give the fans much to think about other than football, and the atmosphere will pick up. in other words, let the explosions happen on the field. people's attention is focused on so much 'other' crap these days, it feels like less and less pay attention to the actual game. if all there is to focus on is the game, that is where people's minds and voices and enthusiasm would be focused on, too.

i like football. i watch football for football, not flags or music or chants or waves or fireworks or inspirational videos or mascots or lottery games. a return to the days when it was all about football is my druthers. the video screen should be for stats.

This

Unfortunately, I think the mass commercialization is here to stay.
 
argh! said:
in the mid-late 90's wa-griz was less about extraneous amenities and more about just plain old football. i honestly think all that needs to be done is cut the incessant and repetitive commercials and promos, and just show some stats. don't give the fans much to think about other than football, and the atmosphere will pick up. in other words, let the explosions happen on the field. people's attention is focused on so much 'other' crap these days, it feels like less and less pay attention to the actual game. if all there is to focus on is the game, that is where people's minds and voices and enthusiasm would be focused on, too.

i like football. i watch football for football, not flags or music or chants or waves or fireworks or inspirational videos or mascots or lottery games. a return to the days when it was all about football is my druthers. the video screen should be for stats.

+1 Remember when one of the big crowd reactions (other than from game play) came on announcements of scores from other games?
 
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