Venting

[BrownBear9501]

Just some things on my mind:

1) First off, people need to quit saying KB is "crap", a "hot pile of shit", etc., etc. .......it is ridiculous. The Griz fan base is better than that. The kid is out there competing to the best of his ability, he is not out there trying to screw up. I thought he played well enough for us to win last night, had some other things not happened. Is he at a level right now that can lead the Griz to a natty? No, but I don't think anyone has had that expectation prior to last night. It is up to our coaches to game plan to his skill set and put him in positions to have success given his strengths and shortcomings.

2) Not to beat a dead horse but what is the point of replay if the officials aren't going to look at all of the angles? That play last night was not the only reason we lost but it didn't help matters. When you are short handed and trying to steal a win on the road, need those correct calls to be made. Without a doubt the Sac receiver was out of bounds....it was not a catch and should have been a turnover on downs, as simple as that. I understand there are several plays that result in questionable calls throughout the course of a game but the whole point of instant replay is to get it right because you have the video evidence to make the "right call". It is instances like last night that defeat the purpose of instant replay and make me think college football should just get rid of it altogether or at least the Big Sky conference should get rid of it.

3) After listening to the gloating of Bobcat fans....my frustration for the imbalance of the Big Sky conference schedule emerges again. Something needs to be done about it, the Cats may win the conference this year partly due to the fact that they dont have to play Sac, or Idaho at all, or any team that is above .500 on the road within conference play. That is not an approach to ensure the best team is left standing at the end of the regular season. When playoff seeding is on the line and Big Sky conference titles are on the line there needs to be more balance in the schedule to keep lop sided schedules from happening that clearly give advantages to some times in the conference. I'm not sure of what the answer is and I say this knowing that the Griz were fully in control of their own destiny by winning the games on their schedule, but doesn't change the fact that there is a huge imbalance here and is very frustrating. There is a reason the fbs conferences have a conference championship game.

That is all.....Go Griz!

 

[Griz Addict]

The Big Sigh is a joke. Half teams get a rough schedule half the teams could walk into the playoffs... the refs are the worst at any division in the country. Too many teams in the damn conference. So sick of watching big sigh refs dictate games. They cost us a game and they costed EWU a win over the bobcats..Bobcats... on easy calls. If they were tough calls I wouldn't give a shit but, these are calls a child could call correctly.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Just some things on my mind:

1) First off, people need to quit saying KB is "crap", a "hot pile of shit", etc., etc. .......it is ridiculous. The Griz fan base is better than that. The kid is out there competing to the best of his ability, he is not out there trying to screw up. I thought he played well enough for us to win last night, had some other things not happened. Is he at a level right now that can lead the Griz to a natty? No, but I don't think anyone has had that expectation prior to last night. It is up to our coaches to game plan to his skill set and put him in positions to have success given his strengths and shortcomings.

2) Not to beat a dead horse but what is the point of replay if the officials aren't going to look at all of the angles? That play last night was not the only reason we lost but it didn't help matters. When you are short handed and trying to steal a win on the road, need those correct calls to be made. Without a doubt the Sac receiver was out of bounds....it was not a catch and should have been a turnover on downs, as simple as that. I understand there are several plays that result in questionable calls throughout the course of a game but the whole point of instant replay is to get it right because you have the video evidence to make the "right call". It is instances like last night that defeat the purpose of instant replay and make me think college football should just get rid of it altogether or at least the Big Sky conference should get rid of it.

3) After listening to the gloating of Bobcat fans....my frustration for the imbalance of the Big Sky conference schedule emerges again. Something needs to be done about it, the Cats may win the conference this year partly due to the fact that they dont have to play Sac, or Idaho at all, or any team that is above .500 on the road within conference play. That is not an approach to ensure the best team is left standing at the end of the regular season. When playoff seeding is on the line and Big Sky conference titles are on the line there needs to be more balance in the schedule to keep lop sided schedules from happening that clearly give advantages to some times in the conference. I'm not sure of what the answer is and I say this knowing that the Griz were fully in control of their own destiny by winning the games on their schedule, but doesn't change the fact that there is a huge imbalance here and is very frustrating. There is a reason the fbs conferences have a conference championship game.

That is all.....Go Griz!

Good post. I agree with you on Brown. He improved during the game. He has talent. Too bad he didn't have more game experience later. He didn't make major mistakes. He didn't panic. He can easily clean up a few of the mistakes and decisions. I think he can improve in the other things too. He came into an important and tough game, was immediately credible, and improved as the game went on. Besides, he's a High Fly Hawk, and we Hawks stick together.

 

[kjvandal]

Idaho fan here…(used to being a bottom feeder so forgive me) has there been any rumblings open fcs football getting rid of a conference game and adding a conference championship game? The reason why Idaho was added to the sun belt during our slow bleed to death in fbs was that they needed Idaho to have enough for a conference championship until coastal Carolina was added to the belt… I think it would at least help with unbalanced scheduling knowing that the team that had an easier road would at least have one tough one at the end.

 

[AZDoc]

So serious question…could someone please look up over the years if there was ever any year that people did not complain of QB play? Or people say that the QB ( OL, WR, Safety) play was hot garbage? Is this case because he’s a montana kid? This is what fans do. It is the passion etc. I don’t think anyone said anything personal regarding him, his family, his GF etc. THAT should not happen ever. But talk about his(or OL, safety etc) play is what it is. He absolutely improved, but did you see the routes? The complexity of the offense? He is not an FCS QB. Just is not, and it’s OK. If people think the Griz would win more than 2 of the last 4 if he started them all, they are up in the night. This is not a knock on the kid personally, just where he is 4 years into a system. Why aren’t people up in arms when fans complain that the safety play in pass coverage is atrocious? Or that the OL sucks and needs to be revamped? Maybe then, make rules that nobody can complain about coaching sucking, play calls crap, or players playing like garbage. Only have all the positive things that happen available to post. This would be all bobcat info if that’s the case, since they are winning.

 

[zirge]

Just some things on my mind:

1) First off, people need to quit saying KB is "crap", a "hot pile of shit", etc., etc. .......it is ridiculous. The Griz fan base is better than that. The kid is out there competing to the best of his ability, he is not out there trying to screw up. I thought he played well enough for us to win last night, had some other things not happened. Is he at a level right now that can lead the Griz to a natty? No, but I don't think anyone has had that expectation prior to last night. It is up to our coaches to game plan to his skill set and put him in positions to have success given his strengths and shortcomings.

2) Not to beat a dead horse but what is the point of replay if the officials aren't going to look at all of the angles? That play last night was not the only reason we lost but it didn't help matters. When you are short handed and trying to steal a win on the road, need those correct calls to be made. Without a doubt the Sac receiver was out of bounds....it was not a catch and should have been a turnover on downs, as simple as that. I understand there are several plays that result in questionable calls throughout the course of a game but the whole point of instant replay is to get it right because you have the video evidence to make the "right call". It is instances like last night that defeat the purpose of instant replay and make me think college football should just get rid of it altogether or at least the Big Sky conference should get rid of it.

3) After listening to the gloating of Bobcat fans....my frustration for the imbalance of the Big Sky conference schedule emerges again. Something needs to be done about it, the Cats may win the conference this year partly due to the fact that they dont have to play Sac, or Idaho at all, or any team that is above .500 on the road within conference play. That is not an approach to ensure the best team is left standing at the end of the regular season. When playoff seeding is on the line and Big Sky conference titles are on the line there needs to be more balance in the schedule to keep lop sided schedules from happening that clearly give advantages to some times in the conference. I'm not sure of what the answer is and I say this knowing that the Griz were fully in control of their own destiny by winning the games on their schedule, but doesn't change the fact that there is a huge imbalance here and is very frustrating. There is a reason the fbs conferences have a conference championship game.

That is all.....Go Griz!

i completely agree part of his foot was on the out of bounds line. it was an extremely bad call with the ref standing within 10 feet of the infraction.

 

[zirge]

Just some things on my mind:

1) First off, people need to quit saying KB is "crap", a "hot pile of shit", etc., etc. .......it is ridiculous. The Griz fan base is better than that. The kid is out there competing to the best of his ability, he is not out there trying to screw up. I thought he played well enough for us to win last night, had some other things not happened. Is he at a level right now that can lead the Griz to a natty? No, but I don't think anyone has had that expectation prior to last night. It is up to our coaches to game plan to his skill set and put him in positions to have success given his strengths and shortcomings.

2) Not to beat a dead horse but what is the point of replay if the officials aren't going to look at all of the angles? That play last night was not the only reason we lost but it didn't help matters. When you are short handed and trying to steal a win on the road, need those correct calls to be made. Without a doubt the Sac receiver was out of bounds....it was not a catch and should have been a turnover on downs, as simple as that. I understand there are several plays that result in questionable calls throughout the course of a game but the whole point of instant replay is to get it right because you have the video evidence to make the "right call". It is instances like last night that defeat the purpose of instant replay and make me think college football should just get rid of it altogether or at least the Big Sky conference should get rid of it.

3) After listening to the gloating of Bobcat fans....my frustration for the imbalance of the Big Sky conference schedule emerges again. Something needs to be done about it, the Cats may win the conference this year partly due to the fact that they dont have to play Sac, or Idaho at all, or any team that is above .500 on the road within conference play. That is not an approach to ensure the best team is left standing at the end of the regular season. When playoff seeding is on the line and Big Sky conference titles are on the line there needs to be more balance in the schedule to keep lop sided schedules from happening that clearly give advantages to some times in the conference. I'm not sure of what the answer is and I say this knowing that the Griz were fully in control of their own destiny by winning the games on their schedule, but doesn't change the fact that there is a huge imbalance here and is very frustrating. There is a reason the fbs conferences have a conference championship game.

That is all.....Go Griz!

i completely agree part of his foot was on the out of bounds line. it was an extremely bad call with the ref standing within 10 feet of the infraction.

 

[ozcat#2]

The disputed pass on the sidelines was called complete on the field and the replays I saw did not conclusively overturn the call. The camera angles were not very good, and I thought the ESPN broadcast was pretty bad overall. Was there an angle that was available that overturned the call? I didn't see one.

 

[mthoopsfan]

So serious question…could someone please look up over the years if there was ever any year that people did not complain of QB play? Or people say that the QB ( OL, WR, Safety) play was hot garbage? Is this case because he’s a montana kid? This is what fans do. It is the passion etc. I don’t think anyone said anything personal regarding him, his family, his GF etc. THAT should not happen ever. But talk about his(or OL, safety etc) play is what it is. He absolutely improved, but did you see the routes? The complexity of the offense? He is not an FCS QB. Just is not, and it’s OK. If people think the Griz would win more than 2 of the last 4 if he started them all, they are up in the night. This is not a knock on the kid personally, just where he is 4 years into a system. Why aren’t people up in arms when fans complain that the safety play in pass coverage is atrocious? Or that the OL sucks and needs to be revamped? Maybe then, make rules that nobody can complain about coaching sucking, play calls crap, or players playing like garbage. Only have all the positive things that happen available to post. This would be all bobcat info if that’s the case, since they are winning.

The longer passes involved corners, not safeties, and I think no. 4 was probably playing the nickel and not when his man got one.

The Griz dropped to no. 3 in passing yardage allowed, from no.. 1. 203 per game, in the conference. Weber and Idaho are 185 and 199 per game. 2d in conference and 13th in nation in team passing efficiency defense. 1st in conference and 11th in nation (right bend NDSU) in Total Defense. Idaho and Weber are 14th and 15th.

 

[AZDoc]

So serious question…could someone please look up over the years if there was ever any year that people did not complain of QB play? Or people say that the QB ( OL, WR, Safety) play was hot garbage? Is this case because he’s a montana kid? This is what fans do. It is the passion etc. I don’t think anyone said anything personal regarding him, his family, his GF etc. THAT should not happen ever. But talk about his(or OL, safety etc) play is what it is. He absolutely improved, but did you see the routes? The complexity of the offense? He is not an FCS QB. Just is not, and it’s OK. If people think the Griz would win more than 2 of the last 4 if he started them all, they are up in the night. This is not a knock on the kid personally, just where he is 4 years into a system. Why aren’t people up in arms when fans complain that the safety play in pass coverage is atrocious? Or that the OL sucks and needs to be revamped? Maybe then, make rules that nobody can complain about coaching sucking, play calls crap, or players playing like garbage. Only have all the positive things that happen available to post. This would be all bobcat info if that’s the case, since they are winning.

The longer passes involved corners, not safeties, and I think no. 4 was probably playing the nickel and not when his man got one.

The Griz dropped to no. 3 in passing yardage allowed, from no.. 1. 203 per game, in the conference. Weber and Idaho are 185 and 199 per game. 2d in conference and 13th in nation in team passing efficiency defense. 1st in conference and 11th in nation (right bend NDSU) in Total Defense. Idaho and Weber are 14th and 15th.

I would say though that part of the pass defense ranking is pass rush related and how teams continue to scheme that and expose the secondary will change those numbers at some point. I still like the defense, but you can only cover someone for so long when rushing 5 or 6 most plays.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Why, pray tell, is Brown “off limits” for criticism but the other players aren’t? He’s been in this system for FOUR YEARS and still can’t negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. But honestly, I’m not as pissed at Brown’s lack of ability as I am at Hauck for not having a better backup QB plan. Idaho’s THIRD STRING QB is better than Brown. EITHER of Sac State’s QB’s are better than Brown.

Is Britt better than Brown? We’ll probably never know, because I have ZERO confidence he’ll be here after next year. Brown starts 0-8 and Britt still can’t sniff the field. He must REALLY suck.