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Upset Guesses, Oct 21

What upsets are possible?

  • Lafayette (5-1) at #15 Holy Cross (4-2)

    Votes: 14 28.6%
  • Illinois State (4-2) at #25 YSU (3-3)

    Votes: 24 49.0%
  • #12 So. Illinois (5-1) vs #1 SDSU (6-0)

    Votes: 8 16.3%
  • Northern Iowa (3-3) vs #11 North Dakota (4-2)

    Votes: 12 24.5%
  • Hampton (3-3) vs #7 Delaware (5-1)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • #8 Western Carolina (5-1) vs #4 Furman (5-1)

    Votes: 30 61.2%
  • Rhode Island (4-3) at Albany (4-3)

    Votes: 2 4.1%

  • Total voters
    49

IdaGriz01

Well-known member
This week is like the last two in that we have two ranked-versus-ranked matchups to include in the poll. Of course, there is a third such game, but it’s in the Big Sky. If I included that, I’d have to give you three votes, since so many would automatically choose the “upset” there … which could happen since Sac State is at home. I have included one game that does not have a ranked team: Both teams have winning records, and the result will be crucial in the CAA standings.

Two choices are allowed and you can change your votes later if you want to.

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The Lafayette at Holy Cross game is interesting because the unranked team actually has a better W-L record. Each had one loss to a decent FBS opponent. (Holy Cross’s second loss was to Harvard.) Otherwise, their records are pretty comparable … both beat their one common opponent (Bucknell) pretty decisively. In fact, the Crusader’s only real advantage may be the fact that they’re at home.

Youngstown State has played a tougher schedule so far than Illinois State. That shows in the Penguin’s record (3-3), but also in the fact that they are ranked while I-State gets only a few votes. Thus, this matchup does not seem like a prime candidate for an upset. Except, that YSU has been up and down all year. Which version will show up this weekend?

South Dakota State has been rolling all year, aided by the fact that five of their first six games have been at home. They now begin a stretch where they play three of their last five games on the road, and the Salukis are no soft touch. It will be interesting to see how the ‘Jacks do this weekend … and the rest of the way. (Who do you bribe to arrange a schedule with only four games on the road?)

I think the big factor in the Northern Iowa - North Dakota matchup will be the likely desperation of the Panthers. To pick up a fourth loss at this stage of the season would be a killer, given the rest of their schedule. They will be at home, so that’s in their favor.

The Hampton-Delaware matchup is in the list for two reasons. First, the Pirates are at home, which should help. The second might seem strange: Historically, Delaware seems to cruise along for a while, but then they somehow lay an unexpected egg. This road game could well be the one.

The Western Carolina - Furman matchup features two top-10 teams, of course. (In each case, the only loss has been to an FBS opponent.) The game will also decide the leader of the SoCon, since both teams are (3-0) in conference. Not much to say, except that it should be a barn-burner.

The Rhode Island - Albany matchup features two teams that are not currently ranked, but have been recently. I picked Albany as the “favorite” because they have only one conference loss versus two for the Rams. For both teams, this is “crunch time” in the CAA. While it would take a monumental turnaround for either team to contend for the conference title, they could still be in the running for an at-large bid. Rhode Island has the better chance if they can stay at 3 losses because their remaining schedule is easier than Albany’s. Albany still has to play William & Mary.
 
Interesting that my two picks (for now) are the leading vote-getters. (Watching for injury reports, etc. that might change my vote(s).)

Considering all the Northern Iowa haters on here, I'm surprised that they're the #3 vote-getter.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Interesting that my two picks (for now) are the leading vote-getters. (Watching for injury reports, etc. that might change my vote(s).)

Considering all the Northern Iowa haters on here, I'm surprised that they're the #3 vote-getter.

Maybe people are thinking that North Dakota will have a letdown after their huge win over NDSU. It could certainly happen but I don't really see them playing poorly enough to lose to UNI. Might be a closer game though.
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
IdaGriz01 said:
Interesting that my two picks (for now) are the leading vote-getters. (Watching for injury reports, etc. that might change my vote(s).)

Considering all the Northern Iowa haters on here, I'm surprised that they're the #3 vote-getter.

Maybe people are thinking that North Dakota will have a letdown after their huge win over NDSU. It could certainly happen but I don't really see them playing poorly enough to lose to UNI. Might be a closer game though.
Yep. I think UND is good enough to pull out the win, but it could be close ... because of at least some letdown, and how desperate UNI is likely to be.
 
Illinois state at YSU seems the most likely. UNI is pretty bad. I think the UNI teams of old cloud our judgement that they can hang with the big dogs and steal a game from time to time. UND could have a hangover game after dominating NDSU. But I think they’ll roll. I know little to nothing about WCU and Furman so I’ll avoid that one. I don’t see SIU beating SDSU, but whatever I picked it. The Jacks find a way to drop a head scratcher from time to time. I needed another pick so let’s go with that.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Da Boyz Mom said:
Maybe people are thinking that North Dakota will have a letdown after their huge win over NDSU. It could certainly happen but I don't really see them playing poorly enough to lose to UNI. Might be a closer game though.
Yep. I think UND is good enough to pull out the win, but it could be close ... because of at least some letdown, and how desperate UNI is likely to be.

Everyone mentions teams “being desperate” and that automatically means they’ll play better. Do you believe in that? People are saying that about Idaho not wanting to drop two in a row at home to the Montana schools.

I would beg to say UND is just as desperate playing for a playoff seed.
 
CatsRback said:
IdaGriz01 said:
Yep. I think UND is good enough to pull out the win, but it could be close ... because of at least some letdown, and how desperate UNI is likely to be.
Everyone mentions teams “being desperate” and that automatically means they’ll play better. Do you believe in that? People are saying that about Idaho not wanting to drop two in a row at home to the Montana schools.

I would beg to say UND is just as desperate playing for a playoff seed.
"Desperation" might be the too strong a word ... and perhaps it's over-used. However, yes, I do believe that teams can play with better focus and energy when the stakes are pretty clear. "Not wanting to lose two in a row" and "playing for a seed" might not be that clear-cut. However, anyone who has paid attention to FCS football and the playoff bid game has to know that four losses is damn near a kiss of death.
 
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