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Upset Guesses (November13 Games)

Which upsets are likely?

  • #25 William & Mary (6-3) vs #2 James Madison (8-1)

    Votes: 16 30.8%
  • #19 South Dakota (6-3) vs #4 SDSU (7-2)

    Votes: 21 40.4%
  • #20 Northern Iowa (5-4) at #16 Missouri State (6-3)

    Votes: 29 55.8%
  • Mercer (6-2) vs #22 Chattanooga (6-3)

    Votes: 10 19.2%
  • Eastern Kentucky (6-3) at #1 SHSU (8-0)

    Votes: 11 21.2%
  • Nicholls (5-4) vs #17 Incarnate Word (7-2)

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • Alcorn State (5-4) vs #24 Prairie View A&M (7-1)

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Stony Brook (4-5) at #8 Villanova (7-2)

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Total voters
    52

IdaGriz01

Well-known member
This week, I had just three ranked-vs-ranked matchups that I could use. It got a little trickier after that because so many ranked teams get to feast next on weak opponents. Kennesaw State, for example, travels to North Alabama (2-7). And NDSU goes to Youngstown State (2-6). Not likely to be much drama there.

As for most weeks, you are allowed two picks, and you can change your mind (and votes).

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Commentary

On the face of it, #2 JMU should be heavily favored at #25 William & Mary. But “not so fast, my friend” … as the saying goes. The Tribe is the same team that went into Villanova and beat them handily (31-18). In that game, they got an early lead and then matched the Wildcats almost point for point (14-15) the rest of the way. Home field advantage may well be enough for them to pull off another upset.

South Dakota versus South Dakota State is a rivalry game. Not much more needs to be said. However, in my mind, USD needs this game, a lot. First, I am doubtful that they could get a bid with four losses (even from the MVFC). On top of that, they finish their season on the road at North Dakota State. Ouch.

The loser of the Northern Iowa at Missouri State game is almost certainly out of the playoff picture. Whichever team handles the pressure better is likely to win.

Chattanooga has come on strong after a relatively slow start (2-3). Since then, they’ve run off four straight wins, including one over highly ranked ETSU. However, even though Mercer is not ranked, their record against conference opponents is identical (both lost only to VMI in conference). They’ve won two straight and home field advantage might be enough for the upset. These two teams, along with ETSU, are tied for the SoCon lead so the game has huge playoff implications.

A win at SHSU is almost certainly the only chance Eastern Kentucky has to get into the playoff picture. That would tie them at 4-1 in “conference” and, of course, give them the tie-breaker if both won their final games. They will surely come out with their hair on fire.

On their records, the Incarnate Word game at Nicholls looks like a mismatch. However, you also have to consider that two of those losses for Nicholls were to FBS teams whose combined records are 13-5. The other two were to ranked FCS opponents. Without the two FBS losses, the two teams would have similar records … and Inc Word’s two losses were to weak FCS opponents (5-12).

The game between Alcorn State and Prairie View A&M is another that looks like a mismatch. However, the record for Alcorn against comparable, or the same, SWAC teams is very much in line with that of PV A&M. Alcorn just went further afield after OOC games, and their record suffered. They actually held their own with a mid-level (5-4) FBS opponent … losing by only a TD. So there’s a good chance that this will more competitive than it looks on the surface.

Stony Brook’s record is deceiving. They were awful to start the season, going 1-5, including a dreadful pounding by Oregon. But since then they’ve turned their season around and are now on a three-game winning streak. Will that be enough to upset Villanova? We’ll find out this coming weekend.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Commentary

On the face of it, #2 JMU should be heavily favored at #25 William & Mary. But “not so fast, my friend” … as the saying goes. The Tribe is the same team that went into Villanova and beat them handily (31-18). In that game, they got an early lead and then matched the Wildcats almost point for point (14-15) the rest of the way. Home field advantage may well be enough for them to pull off another upset.

South Dakota versus South Dakota State is a rivalry game. Not much more needs to be said. However, in my mind, USD needs this game, a lot. First, I am doubtful that they could get a bid with four losses (even from the MVFC). On top of that, they finish their season on the road at North Dakota State. Ouch.

The loser of the Northern Iowa at Missouri State game is almost certainly out of the playoff picture. Whichever team handles the pressure better is likely to win.

Chattanooga has come on strong after a relatively slow start (2-3). Since then, they’ve run off four straight wins, including one over highly ranked ETSU. However, even though Mercer is not ranked, their record against conference opponents is identical (both lost only to VMI in conference). They’ve won two straight and home field advantage might be enough for the upset. These two teams, along with ETSU, are tied for the SoCon lead so the game has huge playoff implications.

A win at SHSU is almost certainly the only chance Eastern Kentucky has to get into the playoff picture. That would tie them at 4-1 in “conference” and, of course, give them the tie-breaker if both won their final games. They will surely come out with their hair on fire.

On their records, the Incarnate Word game at Nicholls looks like a mismatch. However, you also have to consider that two of those losses for Nicholls were to FBS teams whose combined records are 13-5. The other two were to ranked FCS opponents. Without the two FBS losses, the two teams would have similar records … and Inc Word’s two losses were to weak FCS opponents (5-12).

The game between Alcorn State and Prairie View A&M is another that looks like a mismatch. However, the record for Alcorn against comparable, or the same, SWAC teams is very much in line with that of PV A&M. Alcorn just went further afield after OOC games, and their record suffered. They actually held their own with a mid-level (5-4) FBS opponent … losing by only a TD. So there’s a good chance that this will more competitive than it looks on the surface.

Stony Brook’s record is deceiving. They were awful to start the season, going 1-5, including a dreadful pounding by Oregon. But since then they’ve turned their season around and are now on a three-game winning streak. Will that be enough to upset Villanova? We’ll find out this coming weekend.

Do you have any info on W&M? It’s not a fluke to beat a top 5 team that handily IMO. But are they a reasonable contender with JMU?
 
CatsRback said:
IdaGriz01 said:
Commentary

On the face of it, #2 JMU should be heavily favored at #25 William & Mary. But “not so fast, my friend” … as the saying goes. The Tribe is the same team that went into Villanova and beat them handily (31-18). In that game, they got an early lead and then matched the Wildcats almost point for point (14-15) the rest of the way. Home field advantage may well be enough for them to pull off another upset.
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Do you have any info on W&M? It’s not a fluke to beat a top 5 team that handily IMO. But are they a reasonable contender with JMU?
I think so.

W&M is ranked #14 (NCAA stats) in rushing defense. JMU has a fairly balanced attack, but they are considered a “run first” offense. So W&M can certainly hamper the JMU running game.

W&M is ranked #29 in scoring defense at 21.2 Points per Game. JMU looks way better in scoring offense … #8 at 38.6 PPG. But that overall stat is grossly misleading. The Duke’s averaged over 50 PPG in their first 3-4 games, but only about 22 in their latest three.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CatsRback said:
Do you have any info on W&M? It’s not a fluke to beat a top 5 team that handily IMO. But are they a reasonable contender with JMU?
I think so.

W&M is ranked #14 (NCAA stats) in rushing defense. JMU has a fairly balanced attack, but they are considered a “run first” offense. So W&M can certainly hamper the JMU running game.

W&M is ranked #29 in scoring defense at 21.2 Points per Game. JMU looks way better in scoring offense … #8 at 38.6 PPG. But that overall stat is grossly misleading. The Duke’s averaged over 50 PPG in their first 3-4 games, but only about 22 in their latest three.

Good insight- thanks for sharing, I will have to keep an eye on that one. We can only hope to make it as mucky as possible so BSC can get teams in. Gives credibility for years to come.
 
CatsRback said:
... Good insight- thanks for sharing, I will have to keep an eye on that one. We can only hope to make it as mucky as possible so BSC can get teams in. Gives credibility for years to come.
Actually, this is an upset that we don't really want. It would be better for the Big Sky if JMU pinned a 4th loss on William & Mary. Based on what I'm seeing (posted on another thread), I see few -- if any -- four-loss teams getting at-large bids. A loss takes W&M out of the competition among a bunch of 8-3 team (including several likely in the BSC).
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CatsRback said:
... Good insight- thanks for sharing, I will have to keep an eye on that one. We can only hope to make it as mucky as possible so BSC can get teams in. Gives credibility for years to come.
Actually, this is an upset that we don't really want. It would be better for the Big Sky if JMU pinned a 4th loss on William & Mary. Based on what I'm seeing (posted on another thread), I see few -- if any -- four-loss teams getting at-large bids. A loss takes W&M out of the competition among a bunch of 8-3 team (including several likely in the BSC).

Well fair enough!
 
Not so sure about the #1 vote getter. We just watched a replay of the Missouri State at Southern Illinois game. MSU has a stout MVFC defense ... and a potent offense when it gets untracked. The final score (38-28) looked close only because SIU scored 15 points in the 4th quarter when the Bears were playing a loose defense. (Not quite "prevent" :( , but close.)
 
Now that we're down to crunch time, most (if not not all) of these games have make-or-break implications for conference champions and/or at-large bids. For some, it will be win-or-go-home, but others will set up for a slam-bang final game of the season.

Going to be an amazing weekend.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Not so sure about the #1 vote getter. We just watched a replay of the Missouri State at Southern Illinois game. MSU has a stout MVFC defense ... and a potent offense when it gets untracked. The final score (38-28) looked close only because SIU scored 15 points in the 4th quarter when the Bears were playing a loose defense. (Not quite "prevent" :( , but close.)

I voted for that game only because it's UNI, and they seem to always do the exact opposite of what you think they should.
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
IdaGriz01 said:
Not so sure about the #1 vote getter. We just watched a replay of the Missouri State at Southern Illinois game. MSU has a stout MVFC defense ... and a potent offense when it gets untracked. The final score (38-28) looked close only because SIU scored 15 points in the 4th quarter when the Bears were playing a loose defense. (Not quite "prevent" :( , but close.)
I voted for that game only because it's UNI, and they seem to always do the exact opposite of what you think they should.
You got that right! :thumb:
 
Of the eight possible picks, three turned out to be actual upsets. Amazingly, I got both of mine: I honestly felt that South Dakota, with their backs to the wall for a chance at the post season, could pull off the unset at home. Of course, it took a last-second "Hail Mary," but we'll take it.They are now 7-3. But they have to go to NDSU for their final game. I'm doubtful that 7-4 will get a team in (even from the MVFC), but it might if USD made it really close.

SDSU is now also 7-3. They face North Dakota, certainly a winnable game ... and I'd say 8-3 almost certainly gets them a bid.

FWIW: Everyone's pet hate (and the top vote-getter) did not get the win. They now have five losses. However, their next game is against Western Illinois, so they should end up at 6-5 ... and we all know we can't count them out.

My other pick was Mercer (at home) over Chattanooga, which just barely happened: 10-6. This turns out to create a "thing of beauty." Mercer and ETSU are now 6-1 in the SoCon ... and the teams face each other this coming weekend. The loser will most likely get an auto-bid, but that's hardly guaranteed.
 
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